Florist Sued for Refusing Service to Gay Couple Pens Defiant Letter Rejecting Gov’t Settlement Offer

[Asclepias]

If we're going to have a functioning, successful society, people with one set of values and beliefs and values should not seek to persecute people who have different values and beliefs.

I agree, those businesses should stop persecuting them gays.

Hurting someone's feelings isn't persecuting them. You don't even know what the word means. We're talking about gays going somewhere else, not being strung from trees.

There's been many times I realized a business didn't want my money. I just left, I didn't get a puckered anus and look for a lawyer.

That was your right. Its also your right to sue them if the discriminated based on any public accommodation laws.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

If we're going to have a functioning, successful society, people with one set of values and beliefs and values should not seek to persecute people who have different values and beliefs.

I agree, those businesses should stop persecuting them gays.

Hurting someone feelings isn't persecuting them. You don't even know what the word means. We're talking about gays going somewhere else, not being strung from trees.

There's been many times I realized a business didn't want my money. I just left, I didn't get a puckered anus and look for a lawyer.

These fags are deliberately seeking out businesses where they know the owners are religious Christians, and they are targeting them.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Oh please.

The homo brigade is so incredibly stupid, they think they will win this battle.

They won't. They are a TINY minority...and the VAST majority of Americans has absolutely ZERO desire to accommodate their increasingly oppressive demands.

Actually, I suspect the vast majority simply DOES NOT GIVE A RAT ****!

 

[koshergrl]

A gay couple's desire to force a Christian florist to service their wedding should not take precedence over the Christian florist's constitutional rights of freedom of religion, freedom of association, and private property.

Where in the world do gay get off thinking they have some kind of "right" to force religious business people to service their ceremonies against their will?

Because Washington State laws says that business's are required to do business with customers regardless of race, creed, gender, and other things, including sexual identity.

Where do gays get off thinking that they should be protected by the law like Christians are? Where indeed.

One, the law should not include "sexual identity."

Two, why oh why oh why would anyone want to force someone to attend, much less service, their wedding against their will? Decent, respectful, tolerant people don't do that, even if they thorough disagree with their reasons for not wanting to attend. That's just common courtesy and tolerance for the beliefs of others.

They are depraved, progressive pigs. Don't expect them to act like humans, or to understand how humans behave. They don't get it.

 

[Asclepias]

Even tho what that business did, reject you based on your religion, is illegal? You wouldn't stand up for your faith and the 1st Amendment?

You have no backbone. No wonder you cannot understand people who have one.

Shortbus, you are a leftist and thus have never read the 1st Amendment. The Constitution on leftists is like salt on slugs. But the 1st actually protects a business owner who refuses to do business with another based on religious principle.

A Mosque is not obligated by law to hire a Rabbi, and can refuse to hire Christians or Hindus. It's called "freedom of religion." You should at least know what it is you seek to revoke.

Thats interesting. Where does it say it protects a business owner?

You can't penalize a business owner for refusing to take part in sacrilegious ceremonies. Particularly when they are specifically targeted because the homos KNOW they view participation as sacrilege.

I didnt ask your opinion. I asked where it specifies protection of a business owner?

I didn't give you an opinion. I stated a fact, loser.

Prove its a fact.

 

[Iceweasel]

As for homophobic Nazis liking to suck a little dick, that is probably only surprising to other homophobes. It does not surprise the rest of us in the slightest.

But back to the point, Whites Only and No Fags Allowed was big in Nazi Germany.

and another homosexual insult for those daring to disagree with the mob.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Hey, Tard, you grasp that in Hitler's Germany, Jews were a non-Aryan race, right? Only the whitest of white for Hitler.

No Jake, I'm actually educated so I do not subscribe to your bigoted fiction.

Quick Fakey Jake, what is the Farsi word for "Iranian?"

Hitler was not as ignorant as you drooling leftists think, he was aware of the Persian Brahmans invading India. Whiteness is a uniquely American concern, Hitler sough genetic purity, like Margret Sanger - founder of Planned Parenthood, he was a Eugenicist..

You ignorantly attempt to alter this to skin color because you are a leftist - thus ignorant and uneducated.

You do know where the pink triangle symbol comes from, right, Tard?

Not a concern, Jake.

 

[koshergrl]

Oh please.

The homo brigade is so incredibly stupid, they think they will win this battle.

They won't. They are a TINY minority...and the VAST majority of Americans has absolutely ZERO desire to accommodate their increasingly oppressive demands.

Actually, I suspect the vast majority simply DOES NOT GIVE A RAT ****!

You suspect wrong. Small business owners ALONE outnumber the homo lobby.

 

[Kondor3]

Segregationists and slave owners felt the same way.

They were just following the bible.

Or the Q'uran.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Such is the nature of Relativism... and it is dangerous to nothing short of the viability of the culture:

Relativism is the doctrine which holds that knowledge, truth, and morality exist only in relation to one's cultural, societal, historical and personal context, and, as such can never be the result of soundly reasoned absolutes.

It is through this, perversion of reason, wherein relativism axiomatically rejects the objectivity that is essential to truth.

And with truth being essential to trust and, both of those being critical to the establishment of a soundly reasoned morality, and because a soundly reasoned morality is essential to Justice... it becomes clear to reasonable people, that Relativism can never serve justice.

And here's how it works and why it is that SUCH a dangerous expression of the Foreign Ideas Hostile to American Principle:

Congress shall make no law ... prohibiting the free exercise [of religion]; or abridging the freedom of speech...

How does the Relativism 'interpret' THAT?

Benton County Superior Court Judge Alex Ekstrom rejected arguments from the owner of Arlene's Flowers in Richland that her actions were protected by her religious freedom. He said that while religious beliefs are protected by the First Amendment, actions based on those beliefs aren't necessarily. Courts have long held that lawmakers can prohibit discriminatory conduct, and the judge said florist Barronelle Stutzman broke the law when she refused to sell flowers for a same-sex wedding in 2013.

Joe. My. God. WASHINGTON Anti-Gay Florist Found Guilty In Public Accommodations Case

See how that works?

Oh, jeez...Keys has gotten away from the orderlies again!

 

[Syriusly]

I am serious about wanting this "choose to be gay" thing explained. For me, there was no choice about preferring women. It just happened that way. I couldn't be gay if I tried. The same way I didn't decide whether or not I like broccoli. I can't make myself want to smoke a pole any more than I can make myself want to chow down on ten pounds of broccoli.

Therefore, people who think gays choose to be gay must have had a moment in their lives where they could have gone either way, and I want to hear about it so I can understand. This is something completely unfamiliar to me.

Did you choose to be sober Jake? If not, then do alcoholics have no choice and we should rescind laws against driving drunk and force stores to serve drunks?

The shit you Communists think is clever....

My, my, my, you sure have gotten yourself confused. Nazi Germany was all about Whites Only. No homosexuals allowed either, meine kleine Führer.
.

Jake, you grasp that Jews are white, right?

Herman Goering was openly homosexual.

Hey, you might be a bigot - but you're extremely ignorant, so that makes up for it..

Homosexuals were targeted, rounded up and put in Concentration camps- just like Jews, gypsies,

Goring was openly heterosexual, married twice, with 1 child.

 

[koshergrl]

Shortbus, you are a leftist and thus have never read the 1st Amendment. The Constitution on leftists is like salt on slugs. But the 1st actually protects a business owner who refuses to do business with another based on religious principle.

A Mosque is not obligated by law to hire a Rabbi, and can refuse to hire Christians or Hindus. It's called "freedom of religion." You should at least know what it is you seek to revoke.

Thats interesting. Where does it say it protects a business owner?

You can't penalize a business owner for refusing to take part in sacrilegious ceremonies. Particularly when they are specifically targeted because the homos KNOW they view participation as sacrilege.

I didnt ask your opinion. I asked where it specifies protection of a business owner?

I didn't give you an opinion. I stated a fact, loser.

Prove its a fact.

"The Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom asserts that “all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinion in matters of religion.”

 

[Kondor3]

A Christian florist who was sued and found guilty of discrimination after refusing to provide flowers for a same-sex wedding isn’t planning on backing down, recently issuing a defiant letter rejecting a settlement agreement and revealing plans to appeal her case...

 

[Dot Com]

They are depraved, progressive pigs. Don't expect them to act like humans, or to understand how humans behave. They don't get it.

what about Log Cabin Republicans babble?

 

[Syriusly]

Even tho what that business did, reject you based on your religion, is illegal? You wouldn't stand up for your faith and the 1st Amendment?

You have no backbone. No wonder you cannot understand people who have one.

Shortbus, you are a leftist and thus have never read the 1st Amendment. The Constitution on leftists is like salt on slugs. But the 1st actually protects a business owner who refuses to do business with another based on religious principle.

A Mosque is not obligated by law to hire a Rabbi, and can refuse to hire Christians or Hindus. It's called "freedom of religion." You should at least know what it is you seek to revoke.

A mosque is not a business nor is a church.

Business's however are subject to the public accomodation laws- no a Christian cannot legally refuse to sell to a Jew or a Jew to a Muslim or a Muslim to a Christian- based upon their religion.

 

[Iceweasel]

If we're going to have a functioning, successful society, people with one set of values and beliefs and values should not seek to persecute people who have different values and beliefs.

I agree, those businesses should stop persecuting them gays.

Hurting someone's feelings isn't persecuting them. You don't even know what the word means. We're talking about gays going somewhere else, not being strung from trees.

There's been many times I realized a business didn't want my money. I just left, I didn't get a puckered anus and look for a lawyer.

That was your right. Its also your right to sue them if the discriminated based on any public accommodation laws.

And you keep ignoring the point. We shouldn't have those laws. and some states are still holding out. Even if I knew I was covered I'd take my money elsewhere instead of making someone serve me like I was their master.

How do you know those gays aren't getting a little something extra in their cakes?

 

[Asclepias]

Hey, Tard, you grasp that in Hitler's Germany, Jews were a non-Aryan race, right? Only the whitest of white for Hitler.

No Jake, I'm actually educated so I do not subscribe to your bigoted fiction.

Quick Fakey Jake, what is the Farsi word for "Iranian?"

Hitler was not as ignorant as you drooling leftists think, he was aware of the Persian Brahmans invading India. Whiteness is a uniquely American concern, Hitler sough genetic purity, like Margret Sanger - founder of Planned Parenthood, he was a Eugenicist..

You ignorantly attempt to alter this to skin color because you are a leftist - thus ignorant and uneducated.

You do know where the pink triangle symbol comes from, right, Tard?

Not a concern, Jake.

Once again you show your idiocy. Whiteness is a German concept that is part and parcel of the term caucasian. Look up Christopher Meiner.and Blumenbach

 

[Syriusly]

Even tho what that business did, reject you based on your religion, is illegal? You wouldn't stand up for your faith and the 1st Amendment?

You have no backbone. No wonder you cannot understand people who have one.

Shortbus, you are a leftist and thus have never read the 1st Amendment. The Constitution on leftists is like salt on slugs. But the 1st actually protects a business owner who refuses to do business with another based on religious principle.

A Mosque is not obligated by law to hire a Rabbi, and can refuse to hire Christians or Hindus. It's called "freedom of religion." You should at least know what it is you seek to revoke.

Thats interesting. Where does it say it protects a business owner?

You can't penalize a business owner for refusing to take part in sacrilegious ceremonies. Particularly when they are specifically targeted because the homos KNOW they view participation as sacrilege.

I didnt ask your opinion. I asked where it specifies protection of a business owner?

I didn't give you an opinion. I stated a fact, loser.

I don't know that you have ever stated a fact.

The fact is that this business owner is being penalized for violating Washington State law.

 

[Asclepias]

If we're going to have a functioning, successful society, people with one set of values and beliefs and values should not seek to persecute people who have different values and beliefs.

I agree, those businesses should stop persecuting them gays.

Hurting someone's feelings isn't persecuting them. You don't even know what the word means. We're talking about gays going somewhere else, not being strung from trees.

There's been many times I realized a business didn't want my money. I just left, I didn't get a puckered anus and look for a lawyer.

That was your right. Its also your right to sue them if the discriminated based on any public accommodation laws.

And you keep ignoring the point. We shouldn't have those laws. and some states are still holding out. Even if I knew I was covered I'd take my money elsewhere instead of making someone serve me like I was their master.

How do you know those gays aren't getting a little something extra in their cakes?

Who says we shouldnt have these laws? The point is not to spend your money there but make them suffer for not allowing you to spend your money there.

 

[Syriusly]

If we're going to have a functioning, successful society, people with one set of values and beliefs and values should not seek to persecute people who have different values and beliefs.

I agree, those businesses should stop persecuting them gays.

Hurting someone's feelings isn't persecuting them. You don't even know what the word means. We're talking about gays going somewhere else, not being strung from trees.

There's been many times I realized a business didn't want my money. I just left, I didn't get a puckered anus and look for a lawyer.

That was your right. Its also your right to sue them if the discriminated based on any public accommodation laws.

And you keep ignoring the point. We shouldn't have those laws. and some states are still holding out.

'some states'

The entire United States are covered by the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Many states have their own version which extends rights even further.

You don't like them- then repeal them or go to court to argue that they are unconstitutional.