FEMA: Trains To Take You To The Camps

[Shogun]

no, what doesn't hold an ounce of water is posting some Doc talking about locations to house illegal aliens on their way out the nation and pretending it's some John Grisham novel about a maniacle overlord government conspiracy marching one block down the road in a parade of shock troopers.



Which, is probably why you didn't want to address my post regarding it's actual nature.


Your youtube videos don't amount to shit. prison planet doesnt amount to shit. You haven't posted anything that can't be summarily chocke slammed into reality by anyone taking even the slightest look at your source.

Again, i'll take the lack of anyone flocking to your tired conspiracy threads as indication of which of us represents more voices on USMB. Maybe if you ignore that fact like you ignore the fact of your impotent less than half truth evidence youwon't need a new roll of foil this week.

 

[NuclearWinter]

no, what doesn't hold an ounce of water is posting some Doc talking about locations to house illegal aliens on their way out the nation and pretending it's some John Grisham novel about a maniacle overlord government conspiracy marching one block down the road in a parade of shock troopers.



Which, is probably why you didn't want to address my post regarding it's actual nature.


Your youtube videos don't amount to shit. prison planet doesnt amount to shit. You haven't posted anything that can't be summarily chocke slammed into reality by anyone taking even the slightest look at your source.

Again, i'll take the lack of anyone flocking to your tired conspiracy threads as indication of which of us represents more voices on USMB. Maybe if you ignore that fact like you ignore the fact of your impotent less than half truth evidence youwon't need a new roll of foil this week.

lol.

Our government is pushing for open boarders. It's not about the illegals. The camps are not for them.

 

[eots]

indeed, beyond you and eots we sure do see the USMB crowd FLOCKING to your posted threads!
QUOTE]

so what your saying is the rest of the herd.......

 

[NuclearWinter]

Iraq vet exposes how he was trained to round up Americans in martial law exercise, asked if he would kill his own friends and family.....

February 4th, 2008
Paul Watson

U.S. troops are being trained to conduct round-ups, confiscate guns and shoot American citizens, including their own friends and family members, as part of a long-standing program to prepare for the declaration of martial law, according to a soldier who recently returned from Iraq.

We received an email from "Scott," a member of a pipefitters union that runs an apprenticeship program called "Helmets to Hard Hats," which, according to its website, "is a national program that connects National Guard, Reserve and transitioning active-duty military members with quality career training and employment opportunities within the construction industry."

Scott writes that his company hired a soldier who had recently returned from Iraq, who told him that U.S. troops were being quizzed on whether or not they would be prepared to shoot their own friends and family members during a national state of emergency in America. "I have become very close to this young man and have gained his respect and trust," writes Scott.

"I want you to know that he informed me about one particular training exercise his superiors made them perform. It was concerning the rounding up of American citizens that disobey any type of martial law or in other words any type of infringement on our freedoms."

"He was asked if he could shoot his friends or family members if ordered to do so. At the time he said he could," writes Scott.

Scott says that the soldier later "had time to clear his head" and realize the truth, recanting his vow to kill his own countrymen if ordered to do so.

The issue of whether U.S. troops would be prepared to round up, disarm and if necessary shoot Americans who disobeyed orders during a state of martial law is a question that military chiefs have been attempting to answer for at least 15 years.

http://www.sfbayview.com/News/Main/U.S._troops_asked_if_they_would_shoot_American_citizens.html

Documentary filmmaker Alex Jones brought to light similar training programs that were taking place across the country in the late ‘90s which revolved around U.S. Marines being trained to arrest American citizens and take them to internment camps.

During one such program in Oakland, Calif., dubbed "Operation Urban Warrior," Marines refused to answer whether they would target American citizens for gun confiscation if ordered to do so.

Pastors and other religious representatives are being taught to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the government" in preparation for the implementation of martial law, property and firearm seizures, mass vaccination programs and forced relocation.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRIDNQNsUss[/ame] - News Coverage Of The Training of Pastors to be enforcers

The experiences of U.S. troops in the worst areas of Iraq, where soldiers are ordered to go door to door and arrest all men of military age as well as confiscate their weapons, is a mere portend of what is being planned for America if these training programs ever come to fruition.

 

[NuclearWinter]

Daniel Hamburg is a former Democratic Congressman who was elected to the 1st Congressional District of California in 1992 and also subsequently ran for Governor of California, finishing in 3rd place.

Hamburg co-wrote a well-received recent article carried by the San Francisco Chronicle in which he outlined the program to incarcerate American citizens in internment camps, which have already been publicly built, during a time of declared national emergency.

Here is the article that former Congressman Daniel Hamburg wrote about these "prison" camps for American citizens.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/04/ED5OUPQJ7.DTL

In the article, the Congressman states that:

Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of "an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."

But I have already stated before that I think what the government claims these camps are for and what they are really for is two different things. They aren't permanently for illegal aliens because our government is currently pushing for the SPPA. A "north-american partnership" AKA North American Union AKA Open borders policy.

And again, they are not just being built in the USA, they are being built all over the World.

 

[NuclearWinter]

Congressman Jim McDermot made a speech about the "internment camps" and the rounding up of American citizens during Martial Law in the United States:

http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/sp030311.shtml

In the speech, Congressman Jim McDermot said:

"From 1982 to 1984, Colonel Oliver North assisted FEMA in drafting its civil defense preparations. Details of those plans emerged during the 1987 Iran-Contra scandal. They included executive orders providing for suspension of the Constitution, the imposition of martial law, internment camps, and the turning over of government to the President and FEMA."

 

[NuclearWinter]

Ritt Goldstein, an investigative reporter for the Herald, writes that recent pronouncements from the Bush administration and national security initiatives put in place in the Reagan era could see internment camps and martial law in the United States:

http://www.arizona.indymedia.org/news/2002/08/3646

In the article, Ritt Goldstein writes:

America as you know it is changing dramatically. The democratic freedoms which long defined American life are under siege. Today's Bush administration is moving towards America's military pursuing law enforcement, internment camps are on the horizon, and a member of the US Civil Rights Commission previously broached Arab-American internment.

Hidden behind FEMA’s benevolent face as the body whose chief responsibility is disaster relief, another FEMA exists. It is a FEMA that few know has been “charged by the Bush Administration with leading the nation’s anti-terrorism effort”, and a FEMA whose history includes nightmarish episodes in this vein.

Here is another article by Mr. Goldstein that details plans for Martial Law in the United States which was published in the Sydney, Australia, Morning Herald:

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/07/27/1027497418339.html

 

[NuclearWinter]

Here is an article from the Website of Political Research Associates which goes into detail about how FEMA and the Department of Defense issued a joint paper entitled, "The Civil/Military Alliance in Emergency Management" which specified many of the provisions of Reagan's policy on emergency mobilization preparedness:

http://www.publiceye.org/liberty/fema/Fema_3.html

The document indicates that FEMA had been given emergency powers to acquire resources from federal and state agencies (including National Guard personnel) and the private sector (banking, communications, transportation, etc.) "for use in civil disturbance operations."

The article states:

The exercise anticipated civil disturbances, major demonstrations and strikes that would affect continuity of government and/or resource mobilization. To fight subversive activities, there was authorization for the military to implement government ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels, the arrest of certain unidentified segments of the population, and the imposition of martial rule.

 

[NuclearWinter]

Here is a copy of an article written by Jonathan Turley of the Los Angeles Times, On August 14th, 2002 entitled Camps for Citizens: Ashcroft’s Hellish Vision:

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/CfCAHV.pdf

In the article, Jonathan Turley writes:

Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft’s announced desire for camps for U.S. citizens he deems to be "enemy combatants" has moved him from merely being a political embarrassment to being a constitutional menace.

Ashcroft’s plan, disclosed last week but little publicized, would allow him to order the indefinite incarceration of U.S. citizens and summarily strip them of their constitutional rights and access to the courts by declaring them enemy combatants.

The proposed camp plan should trigger immediate congressional hearings and reconsideration of Ashcroft’s fitness for this important office. Whereas Al Qaeda is a threat to the lives of our citizens, Ashcroft has become a clear and present threat to our liberties.

The camp plan was forged at an optimistic time for Ashcroft’s small inner circle, which has been carefully watching to test cases to see whether this vision could become a reality.

The cases of Jose Padilla and Yaser Esam Hamdi will determine whether U.S. citizens can be held without charges and subject to the arbitrary and unchecked authority of the government.

Jonathan Turley's Blog:

http://jonathanturley.org/

 

[NuclearWinter]

Here is a video of the Military preparing for a martial law scenario, where they will have the ability to basicly beat and arrest whoever is resisting them whatsoever:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_9_5aBU33E&feature=related[/ame]

 

[NuclearWinter]

Very good video on Bush's power grab and his dictatorial powers that he has now given to whoever is the President of the United States:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jatpX6kuxHQ&feature=related[/ame]

 

[Shogun]

lol.

Our government is pushing for open boarders. It's not about the illegals. The camps are not for them.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure, dude... and they are out to get YOUUUUUzuzzzuuuzuuzpthst.



*yawn*



say, you sure are elbow to elbow in this thread, aren't ya?

 

[Shogun]

indeed, beyond you and eots we sure do see the USMB crowd FLOCKING to your posted threads!
QUOTE]

so what your saying is the rest of the herd.......

....knows how to think critically beyond a spooky x files theme? Yes, that about sums it up.

 

[NuclearWinter]

Well here we go folks, they are steeming ahead with their plans for the trains. You saw the camp video folks, the camps are being built right next to the train tracks. And now we have FEMA coming out directly and stating that they are planning up increasing the use of trains for the next "disaster" that hits the United States, whatever that "disaster" may be. Whether it be man-made or nature made.

But you know what, I think they really mean, in the event of Martial Law being declared during one of these "emergency situations".

Here are the recently released news articles which show PROOF that FEMA is planning to use massive amounts of trains for the next "disaster" outbreak:

http://www.examiner.com/a-1215440~FEMA_Looks_at_Trains_for_Evacautions.html - Los Angeles Examiner Article

http://www.kltv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7856418&nav=menu117_2_1 - KLTV 7 News Article

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83188 - WKYC News Article

http://www.wtoctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7859407&nav=0qq64h3l - WTOCTV News Article

 

[NuclearWinter]

Well I'm not buying it at all. I think this is a nightmare scenario.

Trains for the sick and elderly? Lol. Are you serious? FEMA didn't do squat when the sick and elderly were drowning and dying in their wheelchairs during that hellish week of Huricane Katrina. Do you people really believe that FEMA is a loving, fuzzy, cuddly organization that cares so much about the sick and the elderly? For crying out loud they are now tied into the United States Department of Defense!

And another thing, the amount of train cars being built, and the amount of trains being built, can hold WAY WAY more people in them than just the sick and the elderly. Whats all the extra space for? Hmmm...could it be MORE people?

And where are these trains going to bring the people that are filled with them? Are they going to cruise past a homeless shelter and drop them off? lol. Hell no. There aren't even enough Homeless shelters to hold them all. Are they going to drop them in other cities? Yeah right. The cities that they were dropped in would be filled to their maximum capacity, and the economies of those cities would be strained with all the new people to feed and clothe. So thats not going to happen.

Hmmm....so what does that leave us with folks? Can we say, The over 800 FEMA concentration camps that can hold millions of people in total? Can we say, the same camps from the same videos I posted that are located RIGHT NEXT TO the train tracks?

I'm telling you what. There is no way in hell I'm getting on any FEMA train, and going to any camp where they are going to hold me "indefinately". F-ck that.

Straight from the article:

NEW ORLEANS (AP) - The Federal Emergency Management Agency may expand the use of passenger trains to evacuate the sick and elderly in advance of hurricanes across the Gulf Coast, a FEMA official said.

Glenn Cannon, a FEMA assistant administrator, told a congressional subcommittee meeting in New Orleans on Monday that his agency is looking at passenger trains as a method of getting people out of harm's way.

After Hurricane Katrina hit in August 2005, Amtrak was hired to be on hand to evacuate people if another disaster hit.

And then there is this very worrysome statement:

But, he said, turning railways into evacuation routes won't be easy.

Rights of way for most railroads are privately owned by freight companies, and there is no congressional mandate to use railroads for evacuations.

So what does that mean? Hmmm..does that mean that FEMA and/or the President and/or congress is going to physically change the laws so that they can take posession of most railways in our country for their own purposes? VERY, VERY, Scary folks.

Please look at this with an open mind and open EYES. We need to do something. It's all coming into fruition, and if we don't do anything we're going to be screwed in the end.

The mind is like a parachute folks. It works better when it's open.

http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=104&sid=1343646

 

[Shogun]

Automated killer robots 'threat to humanity': expert

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080227111811.y9syyq8p&show_article=1

.... and it's a giant conspiracy between the Governmet, The Media, robots from the future AND Aliens from an alternate reality. I'VE GOT PROOF!

From the above article...
There are more than 4,000 US military robots on the ground in Iraq, as well as unmanned aircraft that have clocked hundreds of thousands of flight hours.

The first three armed combat robots fitted with large-caliber machine guns deployed to Iraq last summer, manufactured by US arms maker Foster-Miller, proved so successful that 80 more are on order, said Sharkey.


Now, WHY would a government look to put guns in the hands of ROBOTS? WHY?? To CONTROL the human population in order to ease power to a race of Overlords from another diminsion! Where is the link? Pro-Wrestling.


Some of you may not know but the 80's epic "They Live" was really a tool by which Aliens could "test the water" and gauge how humans would respond to domination.

actual extra-dimensional aliens acting in 80's flick. No Makeup was used during the filming of this movie.

now, WHO was the star of this movie? Why, none other than Rowdy Roddy Piper!

.. a man whose personality was malevolent enough to oppose a Hulkimaniac nation? I think his sinister nature speaks for itself.


Now, Roddy has been the puppet for these aliens for a long while. Since, in fact, he was cut from the WWF lineup circa 1988... WHICH, for those of you paying attention, is EXACTLY the year They Live was released!

I've got your attention now, don't I?

Now, Roddy didn't work alone in this diabolic cabal. Oh no.. During his tenure in professional sports he developed many contacts that would prove to be priceless for his Alien Overlords. One of these contacts?


the following image, in FACT, comes from www.prisonplanet.com... Check it.

Jesse "The Body" Ventura

A man who, as we all remember, assumed a ranking role in politics by winning the Gubernatorial race of Minnesota. Of course, he was only able to accomplish this by mind control.


proof of subliminal mind control used by Ventura to seize the electorate

"The Body" received his nickname, it is widely suspected, because he is the first hybrid crossover android to survive the procedure necessary to replace his natural body that was crushed by a bodyslam from non other than Andre the Giant (An eventual malfunctioning prototype)

Ventura was able to pull strings based on his OWN connections in the media IN fact, only that previous year did he star in another obvious connection:


coincidence?

Where, to those who have been watching so the sheeple don't have to wander too far from their herd, we remember Ventura admit that he was no longer human with the line, "I ain't got time to bleed"

See? do robots bleed? No, Robots do not bleed and neither does Jesse Ventura. Who is a robot, if I haven't made that clear enough yet.

NOW, Who was the co star of Predator, as well as the first image that comes to mind when we think of badass, acceptable, KILLING machines that are hellbent on dominating humanity?

Cheekbones looking a little too rigid like a robots, eh Ahhhnald?

Actual X-ray of Arnold.

We can see how the cards all fall in line. Where are they all now that we see the US military putting guns in the hands of ROBOTS??

California Governor

Ex-Governor, setting robot fish loose in our rivers and streams in order to destroy our food supply. Robots don't eat.

WAKE UP PEOPLE! WE ARE NEXT!

 

[NuclearWinter]

Automated killer robots 'threat to humanity': expert

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080227111811.y9syyq8p&show_article=1

.... and it's a giant conspiracy between the Governmet, The Media, robots from the future AND Aliens from an alternate reality. I'VE GOT PROOF!

From the above article...
There are more than 4,000 US military robots on the ground in Iraq, as well as unmanned aircraft that have clocked hundreds of thousands of flight hours.

The first three armed combat robots fitted with large-caliber machine guns deployed to Iraq last summer, manufactured by US arms maker Foster-Miller, proved so successful that 80 more are on order, said Sharkey.


Now, WHY would a government look to put guns in the hands of ROBOTS? WHY?? To CONTROL the human population in order to ease power to a race of Overlords from another diminsion! Where is the link? Pro-Wrestling.


Some of you may not know but the 80's epic "They Live" was really a tool by which Aliens could "test the water" and gauge how humans would respond to domination.

actual extra-dimensional aliens acting in 80's flick. No Makeup was used during the filming of this movie.

now, WHO was the star of this movie? Why, none other than Rowdy Roddy Piper!

.. a man whose personality was malevolent enough to oppose a Hulkimaniac nation? I think his sinister nature speaks for itself.


Now, Roddy has been the puppet for these aliens for a long while. Since, in fact, he was cut from the WWF lineup circa 1988... WHICH, for those of you paying attention, is EXACTLY the year They Live was released!

I've got your attention now, don't I?

Now, Roddy didn't work alone in this diabolic cabal. Oh no.. During his tenure in professional sports he developed many contacts that would prove to be priceless for his Alien Overlords. One of these contacts?


the following image, in FACT, comes from www.prisonplanet.com... Check it.

Jesse "The Body" Ventura

A man who, as we all remember, assumed a ranking role in politics by winning the Gubernatorial race of Minnesota. Of course, he was only able to accomplish this by mind control.


proof of subliminal mind control used by Ventura to seize the electorate

"The Body" received his nickname, it is widely suspected, because he is the first hybrid crossover android to survive the procedure necessary to replace his natural body that was crushed by a bodyslam from non other than Andre the Giant (An eventual malfunctioning prototype)

Ventura was able to pull strings based on his OWN connections in the media IN fact, only that previous year did he star in another obvious connection:


coincidence?

Where, to those who have been watching so the sheeple don't have to wander too far from their herd, we remember Ventura admit that he was no longer human with the line, "I ain't got time to bleed"

See? do robots bleed? No, Robots do not bleed and neither does Jesse Ventura. Who is a robot, if I haven't made that clear enough yet.

NOW, Who was the co star of Predator, as well as the first image that comes to mind when we think of badass, acceptable, KILLING machines that are hellbent on dominating humanity?

Cheekbones looking a little too rigid like a robots, eh Ahhhnald?

Actual X-ray of Arnold.

We can see how the cards all fall in line. Where are they all now that we see the US military putting guns in the hands of ROBOTS??

California Governor

Ex-Governor, setting robot fish loose in our rivers and streams in order to destroy our food supply. Robots don't eat.

WAKE UP PEOPLE! WE ARE NEXT!

And this disproves what we have been posting....how?

 

[NuclearWinter]

Here is a video of the military going from house to house and disarming the population in New Orleans. In the video, they are using the "threat" of force, to get people out of their homes and to do what the military tells them to do:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4IbxUMWu8Q&NR=1[/ame]

 

[eots]

And this disproves what we have been posting....how?

its obviously hit his fear button..more than any other subject the camps for some reason really scare him

 

[NuclearWinter]

Here is a video of George W. Bush having Alex Jones arrested for asking him questions about the CFR, the Federal Reserve, ect. Look at the smirk on George Bush's face as he gives the nod to have Alex arrested:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoyn_doplUM&feature=related[/ame]

What ever happened to "Freedom of Speech"?