Fellow Conservatives: Why this isn't a big deal. And why we'll win ANYWAY!!!

Yes it's all in Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals.' A good "Community Organizer" must create dissension and bitterness if there is none. This President and the Democrats obey Alinsky's rules with absolute obedience. Pitting American against American is the Marxist way. It is very sad but it is what it is.

Dissention and bitterness? You mean like claiming there are death panels? You mean like claiming it is a Socialist takeover? You mean like claiming the bill will cover abortions? You mean like claiming it will kill granny?

Mr Alinsky meet Mr LibocalypseNow
 
How much bigger will the IRS have to become now? It's going to take an awful lot of Government henchmen to track down and fine all those citizens who haven't bought Health Insurance no? A bigger IRS? Yea i'm not all that into that. This Bill really is wrong on so many levels. Now they're talking about an Executive Order to amend it? The Democrats should be ashamed of themselves. I have never seen a more dirty Congress in my life. They have done everything in their power to circumvent the Constitution. Repealing parts if not all of this Dem debacle is the correct course.
 
How much bigger will the IRS have to become now? It's going to take an awful lot of Government henchmen to track down and fine all those citizens who haven't bought Health Insurance no? A bigger IRS? Yea i'm not all that into that. This Bill really is wrong on so many levels. Now they're talking about an Executive Order to amend it? The Democrats should be ashamed of themselves. I have never seen a more dirty Congress in my life. They have done everything in their power to circumvent the Constitution. Repealing parts if not all of this Dem debacle is the correct course.

17,000 employees bigger. Did you not watch ANY of the proceedings?
 
If they're saying 17,000,just go ahead and assume 170,000 or more. The Democrats are liars. I'm sure they're lying about that number too. Pretty sad stuff.
 
If they're saying 17,000,just go ahead and assume 170,000 or more. The Democrats are liars. I'm sure they're lying about that number too. Pretty sad stuff.

The fact that you have NO fucking clue about the stuff you are railing against speaks volumes. I used to think you were a plant by the RNC, but now, I am thinking you are just a dumb ass who likes to hear himself talk.
 
Yes it's all in Saul Alinsky's 'Rules for Radicals.' A good "Community Organizer" must create dissension and bitterness if there is none. This President and the Democrats obey Alinsky's rules with absolute obedience. Pitting American against American is the Marxist way. It is very sad but it is what it is.

Dissention and bitterness? You mean like claiming there are death panels? You mean like claiming it is a Socialist takeover? You mean like claiming the bill will cover abortions? You mean like claiming it will kill granny?

Mr Alinsky meet Mr LibocalypseNow

I think he meant, as Mark Steyn wrote:

"Longer wait times, fewer doctors, more bureaucracy, massive IRS expansion, explosive debt, the end of the Pax Americana, and global Armageddon. Must try to look on the bright side . . ."

Happy Dependence Day! - Mark Steyn - The Corner on National Review Online
 
I found your post very amusing...
While true the Republicans did and excellent job of watering down the Bill just as they did with watering down the effectiveness of the Stimulus Act while they put of the Charade of Bipartisanship, the Dems of wised up and what you are going to see in this Polarized Country that the Republican Party has demanded is the Democrats have finally decided to start throwing a few haymakers of their own...

We you have the 2nd Most Dysfunctional State in the Union (South Carolina) who has an Idiot Attorney General who is willing to foolishly waste that States Taxpayers Money on filing a Lawsuit against the Federal Government to Bring Down the Health Care Reform Bill on the grounds that it's "Unconstitutional?" Just because he wants to run for Governor of South Carolina to replace who?
Mark "The Appalachian Trail Hiker" Sanford...
Followed by Jim "Where is My Ho's" DeMint Senator of South Carolina saying he wants to Repeal the Bill because President Obama just Rammed his Waterloo up DeMint's Buttcheeks?

I find it Hilarious how the Big Bad Republican Party of Fear Mongers and Whiners are all licking their wounds today after the Democrats and President Obama just outsmarted their dumb a--es and made them looks Pathetically Stupid Last Night in Winning the War on Passing Health Care Reform...

Bottom Line, That is just what happened... You can spin it any way you want but Obama told the NO YOu CAN'T Party of No, YES WE DID! LOL!!
 
If they're saying 17,000,just go ahead and assume 170,000 or more. The Democrats are liars. I'm sure they're lying about that number too. Pretty sad stuff.

The fact that you have NO fucking clue about the stuff you are railing against speaks volumes. I used to think you were a plant by the RNC, but now, I am thinking you are just a dumb ass who likes to hear himself talk.

I would be careful about accusing people of having no fucking clue if I were you. Your ignorance has been on display conspicuously around here.

In fact, all the bad things predicted not only will happen. They MUST happen. There is no way to limit supply without also limiting demand. And that means rationing.
 
Conservatives: This is not a big deal. We've already won this battle because this bill is weak, and in fact, pours money into the insurance industry. Are our taxes gonna go up a bit for the sake of paying healthcare to illegals and poor people? Yeah, a bit. It's the price we pay for George W. Bush. His backlash enabled this. And it's OK. We were attacked, and had to make very tough political choices, like war and torture, to defend our people. The libs took advantage of that for their own purposes. Thats fine. WE did the right thing then, despite paying the political price now.

BUT....theres no public option. AND the liberals have had their Haleys Comet, once-in-72 years moment. They went all in, and got ONE thing, which was drastically more moderate than what they wanted (Single payer). BUT, as a price, their finished politically. Reps, and more important, Conservatives, will dominate fall elections. The liberals will NEVER see amnesty for illegals, gay marriage, or cap and trade. Their liberal dreams have ended with this ONE bill.

AND why do I say WE will win anyway? Because we always have. Conservatives are a people that have certain traits: Honor, integrity, discipline, ingenuity, resourcefulness, sefl-reliance. Those traits are why people like us were better at winning ALL things: Sports, women, business deals, etc. Liberals are the loser types who are DEPENDENT on everyone but themselves. We made fun of liberals in high school. You guys remember those times. They were never disciplined enough to win at sports. Never smart enough to win at business. Never independent enough to attract a good woman.

This bill sucks, but of course as we always have, conservatives will find the loopholes, find the ways to win anyway, find ways to rise above the liberals and leeches of our society time and time again. Its why things such as Air America FAIL, while things such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh succeed. Because the right is full of winners, the left is full of whiners. They envy our success and ability to adapt. The salivate at ways to legislate the taking of our fruits to be distributed amongst their losing class. And like now, when that occassionally happens, rather than crying that they stole our fruit, we'll find a way to grow a whole new tree.

So, be thankful. To use a final analogy, would you rather be the Shark, or the little parasite fish that desperately tries to latch on to the Shark. Happy hunting in the new economy boys. I know WE will get past this minor speed bump easily.

So, are you now calling John Boehner a LIAR?

He's a politician, isn't he?
 
Conservatives: This is not a big deal. We've already won this battle because this bill is weak, and in fact, pours money into the insurance industry. Are our taxes gonna go up a bit for the sake of paying healthcare to illegals and poor people? Yeah, a bit. It's the price we pay for George W. Bush. His backlash enabled this. And it's OK. We were attacked, and had to make very tough political choices, like war and torture, to defend our people. The libs took advantage of that for their own purposes. Thats fine. WE did the right thing then, despite paying the political price now.

BUT....theres no public option. AND the liberals have had their Haleys Comet, once-in-72 years moment. They went all in, and got ONE thing, which was drastically more moderate than what they wanted (Single payer). BUT, as a price, their finished politically. Reps, and more important, Conservatives, will dominate fall elections. The liberals will NEVER see amnesty for illegals, gay marriage, or cap and trade. Their liberal dreams have ended with this ONE bill.

AND why do I say WE will win anyway? Because we always have. Conservatives are a people that have certain traits: Honor, integrity, discipline, ingenuity, resourcefulness, sefl-reliance. Those traits are why people like us were better at winning ALL things: Sports, women, business deals, etc. Liberals are the loser types who are DEPENDENT on everyone but themselves. We made fun of liberals in high school. You guys remember those times. They were never disciplined enough to win at sports. Never smart enough to win at business. Never independent enough to attract a good woman.

This bill sucks, but of course as we always have, conservatives will find the loopholes, find the ways to win anyway, find ways to rise above the liberals and leeches of our society time and time again. Its why things such as Air America FAIL, while things such as Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh succeed. Because the right is full of winners, the left is full of whiners. They envy our success and ability to adapt. The salivate at ways to legislate the taking of our fruits to be distributed amongst their losing class. And like now, when that occassionally happens, rather than crying that they stole our fruit, we'll find a way to grow a whole new tree.

So, be thankful. To use a final analogy, would you rather be the Shark, or the little parasite fish that desperately tries to latch on to the Shark. Happy hunting in the new economy boys. I know WE will get past this minor speed bump easily.

Holy mother of God are you a numbnuts!

:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
If anything Obama has certainly unified the republican party more than any republican leader could have hoped to achieve.
 
If they're saying 17,000,just go ahead and assume 170,000 or more. The Democrats are liars. I'm sure they're lying about that number too. Pretty sad stuff.

The fact that you have NO fucking clue about the stuff you are railing against speaks volumes. I used to think you were a plant by the RNC, but now, I am thinking you are just a dumb ass who likes to hear himself talk.

I would be careful about accusing people of having no fucking clue if I were you. Your ignorance has been on display conspicuously around here.

In fact, all the bad things predicted not only will happen. They MUST happen. There is no way to limit supply without also limiting demand. And that means rationing.

And since we've seen how accurate your predictions are...
 
Some of that backlash against Bush was artificially generated by the far left. They play that same communist game of poor against the rich, black against white, illegals against legals, and etc etc. They create so much passion for their side by pitting groups against one another.
And Cons would never do that, right? LOL
 
The fact that you have NO fucking clue about the stuff you are railing against speaks volumes. I used to think you were a plant by the RNC, but now, I am thinking you are just a dumb ass who likes to hear himself talk.

I would be careful about accusing people of having no fucking clue if I were you. Your ignorance has been on display conspicuously around here.

In fact, all the bad things predicted not only will happen. They MUST happen. There is no way to limit supply without also limiting demand. And that means rationing.

And since we've seen how accurate your predictions are...

they have been spot on.
Any other comments?
 
I would be careful about accusing people of having no fucking clue if I were you. Your ignorance has been on display conspicuously around here.

In fact, all the bad things predicted not only will happen. They MUST happen. There is no way to limit supply without also limiting demand. And that means rationing.

And since we've seen how accurate your predictions are...

they have been spot on.
Any other comments?

You've gotta be fuckin' kidding! :lol:

Shall I dig up where you said this bill was "dead"??
 
That was probably before the democrats manipulated the rules.
 
Anybody who puts "tha man" on his sign in is defintely not tha man.


When idiots like Buc90 quit putting every circumstance as a win-lose situation we will get true solutions.

We need citizens and politicians who create win-win situations.

Too many Democrats and Republicans create win-lose scenarios. We are all in this together.

Buc and his buddies have to have someone lose so they can feel like they are "tha man".
 
I don't see how the reconciliation was legal. It's only supposed to be used to settle budget matters, not create a whole new entitlement.
 

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