Feds fabricate data to cover the failure of the Endangered Species Act.

[Confounding]

Species go extinct all the time. New ones appear. They're "endangered" for a reason: they can't survive and need to evolve. Some offshoot of that species likely already did evolve and is surviving just fine. No point in fucking with nature and keeping the endangered species alive.

There are a lot of animals that are only endangered because of human activity. Do you know how ridiculous what you just said sounds? "Oh, human deforestation made that animal endangered? Let it die; no point fucking with nature."

Instead of saying it's ridiculous, why don't you point out why we should keep these animals from going extinct.

I think humans should do their best to minimize their impact on nature. I love and respect nature; that's why I care when humanity damages it. Also some of the species we are impacting are vital to our way of life. If pollinating insects start going extinct we are completely fucked.

 

[koshergrl]

You're becoming hysterical

And you’re not? ANYTHING that helps is a good thing?

Species and land being put under federal protection is a good thing.

Only if you want the animals to die and the land to be destroyed.

Truth of the matter is the feds haven't protected anything except their own interests. They've destroyed everything they've touched.

 

[bgrouse]

Species go extinct all the time. New ones appear. They're "endangered" for a reason: they can't survive and need to evolve. Some offshoot of that species likely already did evolve and is surviving just fine. No point in fucking with nature and keeping the endangered species alive.

There are a lot of animals that are only endangered because of human activity. Do you know how ridiculous what you just said sounds? "Oh, human deforestation made that animal endangered? Let it die; no point fucking with nature."

Instead of saying it's ridiculous, why don't you point out why we should keep these animals from going extinct.

I think humans should do their best to minimize their impact on nature.

Then why haven't you taken a gun and blown your brains out yet? Obviously because you're full of shit.

I love and respect nature; that's why I care when humanity damages it. Also some of the species we are impacting are vital to our way of life. If pollinating insects start going extinct we are completely fucked.

Animals that impact our lives almost by definition must have sufficient numbers to do so and those that do are by definition not going extinct.

 

[Norman]

Species go extinct all the time. New ones appear. They're "endangered" for a reason: they can't survive and need to evolve. Some offshoot of that species likely already did evolve and is surviving just fine. No point in fucking with nature and keeping the endangered species alive.

But who will keep the Homo Sapiens Leftist alive then?

The only animal that I know of that gets enjoyment of aborting its own offspring...

 

[bgrouse]

Species go extinct all the time. New ones appear. They're "endangered" for a reason: they can't survive and need to evolve. Some offshoot of that species likely already did evolve and is surviving just fine. No point in fucking with nature and keeping the endangered species alive.

But who will keep the Homo Sapiens Leftist alive then?

You'll have to elaborate.

 

[Norman]

Species go extinct all the time. New ones appear. They're "endangered" for a reason: they can't survive and need to evolve. Some offshoot of that species likely already did evolve and is surviving just fine. No point in fucking with nature and keeping the endangered species alive.

But who will keep the Homo Sapiens Leftist alive then?

You'll have to elaborate.

The leftists are killing themselves at a record rate. The more and the crazier sex and gang bangs they have the better in their mind. However, sex that results in procreation is deeply prohibited in these circles. Such act could only be allowed if the plan is to have an abortion, which is of course a heroic empowering experience.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Because it isn't about protecting animals, or the environment. It's about stealing resources.

"Revealing a stunning record of failure and fabrication over nearly half-a-century, a new report by Robert Gordon of the Heritage Foundation calls for sweeping administrative reforms of the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA).

"Enacted in 1973, the ESA has managed to “recover” only 40 species, or slightly less than one species per year."

"Even worse, almost half of the “recovered” species – 18 out of 40 – are what Gordon calls “federally funded fiction.” It turns out that these 18 “recovered” species were never endangered in the first place and were placed on the endangered species list due to poor data. This, however, has not kept the Department of Interior’s Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) from trumpeting their “recovery” as a success.

“This deceitful practice portrays mistakes as successes, distorting the most important measure of the program,” Gordon writes. “It also triggers other mandatory actions further wasting taxpayer dollars, serves as a justification for the adoption of more restrictive land management practices by other agencies, obscures significant problems with the data used to justify listing species, and erodes the overall credibility of the Service and the program.”

"Were it not for the incompetence and dishonesty of the FWS, the examples of phony recoveries cited in the report would be comical. The Concho water snake found itself on the endangered list, because the FWS determined that the construction of a reservoir would destroy its habitat. "

Feds fabricate data to cover failures of Endangered Species Act – Free Range Report

/——/ If the FWS was around back in the day could they have saved Neanderthals by putting them on a list?

 

[MordechaiGoodbud]

Because it isn't about protecting animals, or the environment. It's about stealing resources.

"Revealing a stunning record of failure and fabrication over nearly half-a-century, a new report by Robert Gordon of the Heritage Foundation calls for sweeping administrative reforms of the federal Endangered Species Act (ESA).

"Enacted in 1973, the ESA has managed to “recover” only 40 species, or slightly less than one species per year."

"Even worse, almost half of the “recovered” species – 18 out of 40 – are what Gordon calls “federally funded fiction.” It turns out that these 18 “recovered” species were never endangered in the first place and were placed on the endangered species list due to poor data. This, however, has not kept the Department of Interior’s Fish & Wildlife Service (FWS) from trumpeting their “recovery” as a success.

“This deceitful practice portrays mistakes as successes, distorting the most important measure of the program,” Gordon writes. “It also triggers other mandatory actions further wasting taxpayer dollars, serves as a justification for the adoption of more restrictive land management practices by other agencies, obscures significant problems with the data used to justify listing species, and erodes the overall credibility of the Service and the program.”

"Were it not for the incompetence and dishonesty of the FWS, the examples of phony recoveries cited in the report would be comical. The Concho water snake found itself on the endangered list, because the FWS determined that the construction of a reservoir would destroy its habitat. "

Feds fabricate data to cover failures of Endangered Species Act – Free Range Report

ANIMALS SAVED BY THE U.S. ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT
Here's a list of species saved by the Endangered Species Act.