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My conclusion is that evolution is a theory for incels. Here are some of my reasons why:
1. Some incels believe they are "evolutionarily disadvantaged", while physically attractive men are "evolutionarily advantaged".
While it's true that there may be an objective component to what we perceive as attractive, and some people are born with better "physical aesthetics" than others. The reality is that aesthetics have a subjective component, and that physical aesthetics aren't limited solely to what you are "born with", but whether or not you take care of your body. Many incels are fat, out of shape, and have bad hygiene, and refuse to change these things because it requires effort, instead pretending that physical features such as "their face" are the only reason that women don't find them attractive, since putting the blame on that excuses them from having to work out or take care of themselves.
And, the reality is that relationships aren't solely about purely "physical attraction" to begin with. (e.x. A person can physically arouse themselves with their right hand, but most people other than incels aren't content doing that as a substitute for a relationship). They involve components such as our rational mind, our more complex emotions, and so forth. And there are things which people find superficially attractive, such as charisma, which aren't solely about physical aesthetics, such as how famous men such as musicians like Justin Bieber tend to receive lots of female attention, when if they were just an average person with the same physique, they wouldn't receive nearly as much attention.
2. Some incels claim to support rape because they can't find consensual sex partners, and evolution can be used to support this view, such as how male in some ape species engage in sexual aggression as a mating strategy.
While this is true, if we look at evolutionary psychology, even among apes, only males who are at the lowest end of the pecking order engage in sexual aggression as a mating strategy, while "alpha males" have no shortage of voluntary female attention. So by claiming to support rape, incels are admitting to being at the lowest end of the evolutionary hierarchy.
And while humans engage in biological reproduction, it is untrue that reproduction is the purpose of life. It's merely an evolutionary holdover which sometimes serves a survival purpose. Per Maslow's hierarchy of needs, successful humans prioritize higher needs on Maslow's hierarchy, such as self-actualization, while giving less attention to lower ones like reproduction. This is why society would view a married scientist with 2 kids as more successful than an unemployed deadbeat who has fathered 10 kids with 10 baby mommas. Even though he may be more 'successful' at reproduction, he's less successful as a whole person.
There is also an "unaesthetic" component to reducing human behavior to purely biological functions and drives, such as reducing sex and romantic relationships to "mating instincts". This is likely because people attempt to fulfil higher, more "beautiful" needs on Maslow's hierarchy by engaging in romantic relationships, not solely lower ones like mating and reproduction (and the reality is that most people, and even some animals don't engage in sex solely for reproduction).
They also make the mistake of assuming that simply because animals engage in an activity (e.x. sexual aggression), that this means humans should do it. While it's true that males compared to females may be more sexually aggressive (e.x. such as how males tend to be the "dominant" partner in consensual rough sex), the reality is that this is merely an outmoded drive from our evolutionary past, and doesn't nor shouldn't be considered appropriate in the real world, unless one wants to wind up in prison on a rape charge. Freud observed that the advent of civilization sublimated more barbaric human impulses which could be acted out if civilization did not exist, akin to "Lord of the Flies", and this is a good thing.
In conclusion, evolution is a theory embraced by incels because they are able to use it or cherry pick bits of biological science to support their worldview. In contrast, a worldview which, for example, holds that man was created in the image of God is less likely to be able to be used to support what incels want to believe.
1. Some incels believe they are "evolutionarily disadvantaged", while physically attractive men are "evolutionarily advantaged".
While it's true that there may be an objective component to what we perceive as attractive, and some people are born with better "physical aesthetics" than others. The reality is that aesthetics have a subjective component, and that physical aesthetics aren't limited solely to what you are "born with", but whether or not you take care of your body. Many incels are fat, out of shape, and have bad hygiene, and refuse to change these things because it requires effort, instead pretending that physical features such as "their face" are the only reason that women don't find them attractive, since putting the blame on that excuses them from having to work out or take care of themselves.
And, the reality is that relationships aren't solely about purely "physical attraction" to begin with. (e.x. A person can physically arouse themselves with their right hand, but most people other than incels aren't content doing that as a substitute for a relationship). They involve components such as our rational mind, our more complex emotions, and so forth. And there are things which people find superficially attractive, such as charisma, which aren't solely about physical aesthetics, such as how famous men such as musicians like Justin Bieber tend to receive lots of female attention, when if they were just an average person with the same physique, they wouldn't receive nearly as much attention.
2. Some incels claim to support rape because they can't find consensual sex partners, and evolution can be used to support this view, such as how male in some ape species engage in sexual aggression as a mating strategy.
While this is true, if we look at evolutionary psychology, even among apes, only males who are at the lowest end of the pecking order engage in sexual aggression as a mating strategy, while "alpha males" have no shortage of voluntary female attention. So by claiming to support rape, incels are admitting to being at the lowest end of the evolutionary hierarchy.
And while humans engage in biological reproduction, it is untrue that reproduction is the purpose of life. It's merely an evolutionary holdover which sometimes serves a survival purpose. Per Maslow's hierarchy of needs, successful humans prioritize higher needs on Maslow's hierarchy, such as self-actualization, while giving less attention to lower ones like reproduction. This is why society would view a married scientist with 2 kids as more successful than an unemployed deadbeat who has fathered 10 kids with 10 baby mommas. Even though he may be more 'successful' at reproduction, he's less successful as a whole person.
There is also an "unaesthetic" component to reducing human behavior to purely biological functions and drives, such as reducing sex and romantic relationships to "mating instincts". This is likely because people attempt to fulfil higher, more "beautiful" needs on Maslow's hierarchy by engaging in romantic relationships, not solely lower ones like mating and reproduction (and the reality is that most people, and even some animals don't engage in sex solely for reproduction).
They also make the mistake of assuming that simply because animals engage in an activity (e.x. sexual aggression), that this means humans should do it. While it's true that males compared to females may be more sexually aggressive (e.x. such as how males tend to be the "dominant" partner in consensual rough sex), the reality is that this is merely an outmoded drive from our evolutionary past, and doesn't nor shouldn't be considered appropriate in the real world, unless one wants to wind up in prison on a rape charge. Freud observed that the advent of civilization sublimated more barbaric human impulses which could be acted out if civilization did not exist, akin to "Lord of the Flies", and this is a good thing.
In conclusion, evolution is a theory embraced by incels because they are able to use it or cherry pick bits of biological science to support their worldview. In contrast, a worldview which, for example, holds that man was created in the image of God is less likely to be able to be used to support what incels want to believe.