EV cars weight is adding stress to old parking garages and may have already caused collapses.

[MarathonMike]

Add this to the list of issues with EVs. They are so much heavier than ICE vehicles, they may have already contributed to the collapse of some old parking garages. The average EV weighs over 1000 pounds more than an equivalent size ICE vehicle. In Truck EVs it's closer to 2000 pounds heavier per vehicle.

Are Electric Vehicles Increasing the Risk of Structural Failure in Parking Garages?

Will the increasing number of EVs on our roads lead to more structural failures in parking garages? That’s one of the questions circulating in the wake of the partial collapse of a four-story structure in Lower Manhattan. Let's use Altair solutions to find out.

altair.com

 

[Muhammed]

There's not enough EVs to really make a significant difference, IMO. I mean if every single ******* car was a, EV, that's one thing, it would be a huge weight difference, but the reality is that very few cars are EVs.

Modern concrete and steel parking garages are already redundantly designed.

 

[Oddball]

The externalities of those white elephants are only just beginning to rear their ugly heads.

 

[Muhammed]

The externalities of those white elephants are only just beginning to rear their ugly heads.

What is more concerning is trucks going down the highways. They are allowing electric trucks to be heavier without reducing their velocity accordingly.

Sure there may be a way to do it, but that is not what they are doing.

 

[Markle]

Add this to the list of issues with EVs. They are so much heavier than ICE vehicles, they may have already contributed to the collapse of some old parking garages. The average EV weighs over 1000 pounds more than an equivalent size ICE vehicle. In Truck EVs it's closer to 2000 pounds heavier per vehicle.

Are Electric Vehicles Increasing the Risk of Structural Failure in Parking Garages?

Will the increasing number of EVs on our roads lead to more structural failures in parking garages? That’s one of the questions circulating in the wake of the partial collapse of a four-story structure in Lower Manhattan. Let's use Altair solutions to find out.

altair.com

Far more weight on our highways as well. Our roads and highways were not built for these heavier cars. No gas and they pay nothing for the maintenance of those highways.

And further...

Watch: Testing Suggests Highway Guardrails No Match for Heavy EVs

The nation’s guardrails may be no match for heavy electric vehicles (EVs), early test results released Thursday suggest.

www.breitbart.com

 

[WinterBorn]

Some EVs are far heavier than ICE vehicles. Most are not. My Suburban is heavier than a Tesla Model S.

 

[toobfreak]

EV cars weight is adding stress to old parking garages and may have already caused collapses.​

Assuming an added 1000 pounds in batteries for every EV car times about 500 to 1000 cars per average garage is an additional 500,000 to 1,000,000 pounds or about 500 tons or more of weight these garages were never intended to support.

500 tons of battery material just in one garage that all had to be mined out of the Earth that didn't have to before.

Sure are saving the planet.

 

[WinterBorn]

Assuming an added 1000 pounds in batteries for every EV car times about 500 to 1000 cars per average garage is an additional 500,000 to 1,000,000 pounds or about 500 tons or more of weight these garages were never intended to support.

500 tons of battery material just in one garage that all had to be mined out of the Earth that didn't have to before.

Sure are saving the planet.

Now this is a good reason to dislike EVs. The pollution is serious. But since that pollution is localized and far away, people don't care.

 

[toobfreak]

Now this is a good reason to dislike EVs. The pollution is serious. But since that pollution is localized and far away, people don't care.

People don't realize that in carrying the capacity to store all the electric current needed to drive an automobile around at highway speed for hundreds of miles amounts to massive amounts of chemical energy needing vast amounts of precious and semi-precious metals strip-mined from all around the planet (often with slave and child labor) times 8 billion people. And when something is in high demand, it always drives up the cost.

Then there is the question of producing all the additional electricity then transmitting it everywhere to support it all. Much of that requiring vast amounts of additional mining.

The ecological cost is unfathomable.

Saving the planet my ass.

 

[Muhammed]

Some EVs are far heavier than ICE vehicles. Most are not. My Suburban is heavier than a Tesla Model S.

That's like saying your doghouse in the back yard is not heavier that your people house.

They are different things.

 

[WinterBorn]

That's like saying your doghouse in the back yard is not heavier that your people house.

They are different things.

Not entirely different. Both are passenger vehicles. Both the Tesla and the Suburban use public roads, parking decks and crash into guard rails.

If there needs to be a weight limit, then pass laws concerning weight limits.

 

[Muhammed]

Not entirely different. Both are passenger vehicles. Both the Tesla and the Suburban use public roads, parking decks and crash into guard rails.

If there needs to be a weight limit, then pass laws concerning weight limits.

Been there, done that.

I'm a master cement mason. I've been building highways for decades.

But I wasn't really talking about the guardrails. I was talking about the pavement.

And maybe doghouses too, IIRC.

 

[dudmuck]

People don't realize that in carrying the capacity to store all the electric current needed to drive an automobile around at highway speed for hundreds of miles amounts to massive amounts of chemical energy needing vast amounts of precious and semi-precious metals strip-mined from all around the planet (often with slave and child labor) times 8 billion people. And when something is in high demand, it always drives up the cost.

Then there is the question of producing all the additional electricity then transmitting it everywhere to support it all. Much of that requiring vast amounts of additional mining.

The ecological cost is unfathomable.

Saving the planet my ass.

EVs still less environmental impact than ICE.
Future technology will reduce this further, but iCE is going nowhere.

 

[ReinyDays]

Assuming an added 1000 pounds in batteries for every EV car times about 500 to 1000 cars per average garage is an additional 500,000 to 1,000,000 pounds or about 500 tons or more of weight these garages were never intended to support.

500 tons of battery material just in one garage that all had to be mined out of the Earth that didn't have to before.

Sure are saving the planet.

Except we're reducing the total number of passenger vehicles by 90% ... including EVs ... so only the additional 50 tons, which isn't much more than a single semi-truck ...

We need to tear down parking garages down and build affordable housing ... or better convert the garages into the housing ... smaller carbon footprint ...

Instead of building houses out 50 miles from shopping centers ... we should be in-filling so new housing is 50 feet from shopping ... and we can walk to the store ... the roads would be for 34-ton semi-trucks hauling goods more efficiently to the end-users ... we won't need parking garages anymore ... don't make a fuss, just get on the bus ...

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Does anyone have any solid numbers ... the GMC Hummer EV weights in at a whopping 5 tons ... the Ford F-150 at 3 tons ... the extra is all battery ... both are *****-mobiles so what do we care ... we only need a wheel barrel for the 1/2 ton loads these stupid things carry ...

What sort of MORON commutes to their desk job in an F-150? ... or Hummer EV? ... all you need is a golf cart that can run at freeway speeds right? ...

... or be a MAN and get a Harley ...

 

[ding]

Some EVs are far heavier than ICE vehicles. Most are not. My Suburban is heavier than a Tesla Model S.

Shame on you for driving that gas guzzler.

 

[Dagosa]

There's not enough EVs to really make a significant difference, IMO. I mean if every single ******* car was a, EV, that's one thing, it would be a huge weight difference, but the reality is that very few cars are EVs.

Modern concrete and steel parking garages are already redundantly designed.

Hilariously funny. An electric car adds no more weight than buying a Ford F-150 over a Teslar. We have to live with the fire hazard of gasoline, the pollution and the degradation of our roads and surrounding structures due to gasoline and oil spillage from the ice engine. Where are your complaints about that ? ….do you know how toxic motor oil is that drips on your garage floor or gets into your ground water ? Nah, didn’t think so.

 

[Muhammed]

Hilariously funny. An electric car adds no more weight than buying a Ford F-150 over a Teslar.

Compare apples to apples, jackass.


5.2L V8 2024 F-150 curb weight = 5,757 lbs.
Electric 2024 F-150 curb weight = 6,893 lbs.
2024 Tesla Cybertruck curb weight =6603 lbs.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Add this to the list of issues with EVs. They are so much heavier than ICE vehicles, they may have already contributed to the collapse of some old parking garages. The average EV weighs over 1000 pounds more than an equivalent size ICE vehicle. In Truck EVs it's closer to 2000 pounds heavier per vehicle.

Are Electric Vehicles Increasing the Risk of Structural Failure in Parking Garages?

Will the increasing number of EVs on our roads lead to more structural failures in parking garages? That’s one of the questions circulating in the wake of the partial collapse of a four-story structure in Lower Manhattan. Let's use Altair solutions to find out.

altair.com

Plus they’re tearing up roads and not paying gas taxes to repair them.

 

[Dagosa]

Compare apples to apples, jackass.


5.2L V8 2024 F-150 curb weight = 5,757 lbs.
Electric 2024 F-150 curb weight = 6,893 lbs.
2024 Tesla Cybertruck curb weight =6603 lbs.

There is a also problem from leaking petroleum damaging roads and concrete. So, No foolish. there are comparably few EV trucks on the road foolish…..of Course, all the pollution in a garage caused by the ice engine is much worse foolish. Teslar weights much less than a Ford F-150 and doesn’t pollute You’re funny….simpleton but funny.
Go ahead foolish. Count the number of trucks and large SUVs to EVs in any garage….count them bubba.

 

[sparky]

They (big insurance) had the charger stations removed from a indoor parking facility locally, due to the number of EV fires occurring.......~S~