Zone1 ethics and the double standard.

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you prefer harpo?

I prefer either over Karl.

 

[Invisibleflash]

i understand that women MUST save themselves for marriage and that men ate free to sow "wild oats."

that is the easy part. explains why harris is eternally damned while trump has been chosen and annointed to save the world from sexual predators.

but then we come to boebert on her beetlehuice date. that is ok because why? it didn'[t happen?

or margie taylor green and her tantric sex guru. that doesn't even sound biblical, but is perfectly accepable to the ladies at the megachurch.

so ,when is it ok for females to have sex and why isn't 30 years ago one of those times?:

When is the right time??

You have to ask the sex police, bub. And better not get it wrong!

 

[JohnDB]

two parent nuclear families are an artifact of the industrial age and consumer culture. extended families have been the norm in western civilization until recently.

it is very easy to argue that even with 2 parents, the demands of child care, elder care, and the vagaries of capitalist economic cycles stretch the nuclear family past a healthy point.

Actually....
What you are proposing is the very things that destroy a nation. IOW it will not exist if this becomes the ideal.

 

[alang1216]

Are best for children as they need male and female role models.

Two parent nuclear families are better than one parent families but extended families are better still. Unfortunately it has become increasingly rare and I think that explains a lot of the depression and anxiety we face.

 

[rampart]

Are best for children as they need male and female role models.

no doubt the children need role models. best delivered if grandparents are also involved.

 

[rampart]

When is the right time??

You have to ask the sex police, bub. And better not get it wrong!


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is that a new government agency under agenda 2025? no . prpbably bid it out.

 

[ding]

Two parent nuclear families are better than one parent families but extended families are better still. Unfortunately it has become increasingly rare and I think that explains a lot of the depression and anxiety we face.

Yep, messing kids up is a time honored tradition. Some will perpetuate it and some won't.

 

[rampart]

Actually....
What you are proposing is the very things that destroy a nation. IOW it will not exist if this becomes the ideal.

speaking of "role models."

you are talking "simpsons" and every disfunctional family in suburbia.

the waltons kind of survived a depression and a war. the nation survived as well.

 

[ding]

no doubt the children need role models. best delivered if grandparents are also involved.

Yep, grand parents can provide a nice contrast.

 

[kjw47]

you may be wrong about that. do we live in a christian nation or not? because every christian i know says kamala is a slut and trump is a righteous man of god.

only ones in darkness would say that. No this nation doesn't even know Jesus.

 

[JohnDB]

speaking of "role models."

you are talking "simpsons" and every disfunctional family in suburbia.

the waltons kind of survived a depression and a war. the nation survived as well.

Television programs are not reality.

 

[SweetSue92]

i understand that women MUST save themselves for marriage and that men ate free to sow "wild oats."

that is the easy part. explains why harris is eternally damned while trump has been chosen and annointed to save the world from sexual predators.

but then we come to boebert on her beetlehuice date. that is ok because why? it didn'[t happen?

or margie taylor green and her tantric sex guru. that doesn't even sound biblical, but is perfectly accepable to the ladies at the megachurch.

so ,when is it ok for females to have sex and why isn't 30 years ago one of those times?:

None of this matters when electing a president.

The real problem is: too many Americans have replaced church with politics, so that they expect politicians to behave like pastors.

Mostly this is liberals, like you, frankly.

We are hiring a person to run the country, not marry into our family or be our best friend. When your employer hires someone do they ask if they are sexually pure?

It's just so weird to me.

 

[rampart]

None of this matters when electing a president.

The real problem is: too many Americans have replaced church with politics, so that they expect politicians to behave like pastors.

Mostly this is liberals, like you, frankly.

We are hiring a person to run the country, not marry into our family or be our best friend. When your employer hires someone do they ask if they are sexually pure?

It's just so weird to me.

so, get off ms harris' sins of decades ago. from people who excuse much more recent transgressions, like you, frankly, is that a lot to ask?

 

[SweetSue92]

so, get off ms harris' sins of decades ago. from people who excuse much more recent transgressions, like you, frankly, is that a lot to ask?

??? I'm not talking about her "sins" or whatever. She's ineffective and her policies are terrible.

 

[rampart]

Television programs are not reality.

pop culture analogy courtesy of bush sr.

 

[rampart]

Everyone is free to suffer the predictable surprises of normalization of deviance.

every right carries responsibility , ding, i'm sure you know that, but

i'm not responsible for contributing to the magnitude of those predictable possibilities by adding criminal penalties or extraneous medical complications.


hmmmmm. thanks for that question ding. i do think that perhaps a bit of "shame" might be ok and traditional, and in some instances appropriate. i remember older generations in my family speaking of an older cousin as a "tramp."

i thought that meant she was hanging out by the railroad track sipping stew from a tin can. kids these days seem smarter than that.

 

[ding]

every right carries responsibility , ding, i'm sure you know that, but

i'm not responsible for contributing to the magnitude of those predictable possibilities by adding criminal penalties or extraneous medical complications.


hmmmmm. thanks for that question ding. i do think that perhaps a bit of "shame" might be ok and traditional, and in some instances appropriate. i remember older generations in my family speaking of an older cousin as a "tramp."

i thought that meant she was hanging out by the railroad track sipping stew from a tin can. kids these days seem smarter than that.

Normalization of deviance is when one deviates from a standard and then normalizes their deviance from the standard such that they forgot why that standard existed in the first place. Women use to not be as promiscuous as men. When they lowered their standards all sorts of predictable surprises began; increased unwed pregnancies', single parent moms, divorce rates, violence against women, etc.

Not saying those things are the fault of women. I'm saying those things are the result of lowering standards.

 

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