Elon musk on path to be worlds first trillionaire

You think that?

Yeah, money rules US politics.

If he does what the Koch brothers have been doing, then he will certainly control the how the right wing thinks. Because that's what the Koch brothers have been doing with increasing success since the after the 1980 election where one of the brothers lost as VP candidate for the Libertarian Party.
 
Yeah, money rules US politics.

If he does what the Koch brothers have been doing, then he will certainly control the how the right wing thinks. Because that's what the Koch brothers have been doing with increasing success since the after the 1980 election where one of the brothers lost as VP candidate for the Libertarian Party.
but you left out soros of course who has been buying your leftist socialist pols for decades.....

you forgot two can play that game
 
but you left out soros of course who has been buying your leftist socialist pols for decades.....

you forgot two can play that game

I'm sure I left out quite a few people. I used the Koch brothers because they're the biggest on the right and the ones who really started it all. Also, Musk has been funding the right.

But you missed out bananas. Two can play at this game.
 
I'm sure I left out quite a few people. I used the Koch brothers because they're the biggest on the right and the ones who really started it all. Also, Musk has been funding the right.

But you missed out bananas. Two can play at this game.
Then you should be fully aware that no party is willing to fix this as long as the money keeps flowing. As long as voters are told what they wanted to hear, they look sideway. One solution is no one in Congress and state assembly can serve more than 6 years.
 
Then you should be fully aware that no party is willing to fix this as long as the money keeps flowing. As long as voters are told what they wanted to hear, they look sideway. One solution is no one in Congress and state assembly can serve more than 6 years.

I'm perfectly aware. Which is why I push for Proportional Representation in a lot of my posts. Because I believe that only by changing to PR will politicians stop doing the bidding of the rich and listen to the people.

The term limits thing is not going to solve any problem, in fact it might make it worse. People will be lining up to take the rich's money because every six years you know politicians are dropping out. Who'll replace them?
 
I'm perfectly aware. Which is why I push for Proportional Representation in a lot of my posts. Because I believe that only by changing to PR will politicians stop doing the bidding of the rich and listen to the people.

The term limits thing is not going to solve any problem, in fact it might make it worse. People will be lining up to take the rich's money because every six years you know politicians are dropping out. Who'll replace them?
Probably not worse. Any planning will take years to hammer out. Even if the legislation is ready to go live, expect litigation that can tie things up for years. The elites can't get things their way after spending millions of dollars, they may give up. The other problem is activist and partisan judges.
 
Probably not worse. Any planning will take years to hammer out. Even if the legislation is ready to go live, expect litigation that can tie things up for years. The elites can't get things their way after spending millions of dollars, they may give up. The other problem is activist and partisan judges.

Which could all change with PR.

Imagine right now you have judges. How do you get up the ladder? You have to catch the eye of a politician. Because there are two parties, judges go to the extreme and get promoted.

If you had six parties in Congress (like Germany with a 5% cut off) you would need to get the support of more than one political party, possible three or four. This would lead to better judges.

In Switzerland they have a presidency chosen from their parliament and they need cross party support. There are 7 members of the executive, with one serving a year as the head of state in rotation. Switzerland has a sensible presidency.

In Germany, with PR, they spend much less than in the US


"In 2017, the last time Germany held a parliamentary election, parties spent €92 million ($109.6 million)"

$109.6 million for an election for a country of 80 million people. The equivalent for the US would be about $440 million based on population size.


"Ohio ranks on top of the list with more than $400 million spent between both candidates. "

One Senate seat cost that much, nearly.

Why? Because with PR you win an extra seat by getting enough voters on your side. The German election produces an indeterminate number of seats. 630 the last election, 709 the previous one.

However 630 for 49.5 million voters is 58,500 people per representative. You will need to tip the scales that much in the whole country to get one extra seat.

In the Senate, especially, you can often only need to tip a few thousand votes in the closest seats to gain a seat. They target the close races and ignore those who they feel don't matter. Not very democratic, is it?
 
I'm sure I left out quite a few people. I used the Koch brothers because they're the biggest on the right and the ones who really started it all. Also, Musk has been funding the right.

But you missed out bananas. Two can play at this game.
so they are the biggest on the right and soros is the biggest on the left

I did not miss out on anything

big donors support their party.....not a hard concept to grasp
 
Yeah, money rules US politics.

If he does what the Koch brothers have been doing, then he will certainly control the how the right wing thinks. Because that's what the Koch brothers have been doing with increasing success since the after the 1980 election where one of the brothers lost as VP candidate for the Libertarian Party.

So hes the right wing version of Soros then?
 
so they are the biggest on the right and soros is the biggest on the left

I did not miss out on anything

big donors support their party.....not a hard concept to grasp

It's more than supporting a party.

The Koch brothers pushed ideas. They changed the Republican Party by putting articles out there to manipulate people, using Facebook and other social media to manipulate people.

So Soros is the biggest on the left, did I say otherwise? Does that have anything to do with Musk?
 
Potentially worse. Seeing as he's richer now.
Well, so far, between the two, only soros has a reputation for trying to influence and disrupt governments.
 
15th post

I was wondering when this would happen, but we will soon see it.

A trillion dollar package over the next decade, thats insane. I wonder what company he will buy next. One thing is certain, the cancel culture the left tried on elon apparently didnt work.
Yeah. The left cancelled Elon Musk right into a trillion dollars. Everything they touch turns into shit.
 
Define "influence and disrupt governments".
By using his money to back certain candidates to reshape certain aspects of our government.

His funding of various antifa protests over the years.

Things like that.
 
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