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If he (Elon) needs some money all he has to do is ask.
musk is killing his car brand. He is also killing Twitter. And now trump had him finding ways to kill the country. Frigin Idiots!
Why is exposing fraud and waste killing the country?musk is killing his car brand. He is also killing Twitter. And now trump had him finding ways to kill the country. Frigin Idiots!
That's not what leon is doing.Why is exposing fraud and waste killing the country?
Reality awaits stupid. Let us know when you get there.That's not what leon is doing.
wow that was the dumbest post on here, and that's hard to top the other dumb posts. Not 1 word of that is true which is why you can't and won't elaborate.musk is killing his car brand. He is also killing Twitter. And now trump had him finding ways to kill the country. Frigin Idiots!
I don't understand a lot of the technical stuff, but it's becoming clear that firing all these engineers was a monumental mistake, which may sink Twitter, Tesla, and his wealth.
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Gergely Orosz
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What I'm hearing from inside Twitter:
Several people who were let go on Friday, then asked to come back were given less than an hour as a deadline.
Software engineers who got this call I know of all said "no" and the only ones who could eventually say "yes" are on visas.
Also:
Many people got a phone call with this "offer", and a short deadline. Lots of people stopped answering unknown numbers to avoid this.
Inside Twitter, managers I hear are getting desperate, trying to call back more people. People are saying "no" + more sr engineers are quitting.
None of this is surprising. As a rule of thumb, after you lay off X% of people, you get an additional half attrition. Lay off 10%: expect another 5% to quit. Lay off 50%... not unreasonable to expect another 25% to quit.
Calling back people you just fired rarely works.
Why it's a problem that senior people are quitting and people don't want to come back:
Twitter has a complex architecture for a reason. And it needs some level of institutional knowledge to maintain.
This institutional knowledge both got fired + is walking out the door.
In practical terms: software engineers who are with the company are now put on oncall rotations for systems they have no idea about. I mean, they can figure it out... easiest to talk with someone who knows these.
The problem is when there's no such person left.
Talking with engineers, some things people don't realize about Twitter:
Unless the institutional knowledge is somehow retained, in days/weeks/months, we should, sadly, expect to see a lot more outages.
- On prem data centers
- Lots of infra-level advanced stuff. Eg multi-level infra feature flags
- Advanced infra-level incremental rollouts to avoid outages that were caused by infra changes in the past
The straightforward option to reduce damage is:
1. Retain experienced folks, at least mid-term
2. Hire and onboard new people with these seniors
I know that on Twitter it's fashionable to mock how "slow" Twitter was to ship.
But the more I learn about the internal systems, and why it was built in a way, the more impressed I am. Eg Twitter onboarding to k8s was extremely challenging (+brilliant) thanks to legacy infra.
Twitter has no nuance to discuss Twitter tradeoffs. But as I understand, there were many: some workaround of legacy decisions, some deliberate.
This doesn't change that Twitter is a complex system, and it's complex for good reasons. I really hope enough people stay who know why.
Also, thank you to both people who built these systems Twitter runs on, and especially those staying and maintaining them.
Keeping Twitter running became far more challenging overnight for no fault of ppl doing all this difficult work.
Thanks for keeping the lights on and more!
One thing that continues to bug me:
Elon Musk is an experienced operator and no stranger to layoffs (and their impact). He has a team of advisors from the VC world.
Surely they expected all this to happen. So, why did they do it? Or is this the plan?
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A timely comic from a former Twitter software engineer - several people told me he was one of the most productive web engineers -, who was also Twitter's unofficial Chief Cartoonist.
So a bit more of an insider view:
Worth linking how the author of the above comic got fired at Twitter.
He was working on a high-priority project at 9pm on Tuesday (after Elon bought Twitter). Disconnected and fired mid-work-meeting. No justification as to why.
Now he's suing Twitter.
It's a cesspool of national socialist racist crap."X" is thriving now. You were WRONG.
It is thriving. Without WOKE Fagism.It's a cesspool of national socialist racist crap.
HilariousIt is thriving. Without WOKE Fagism.
Yeah. It is. "X" will help elect more Trumpist Repubs in two years.Hilarious
HilariousYeah. It is. "X" will help elect more Trumpist Repubs in two years.
Only Kneepads were the ones Harris used for Willie Brown.Hilarious
Xwatter going to hand out promo orange knee pads.
Yup, you received a pair.Only Kneepads were the ones Harris used for Willie Brown.
Yeah. I have a "Pair". Unlike you no Gonad tranny lovers.Yup, you received a pair.
HilariousOnly Kneepads were the ones Harris used for Willie Brown.
Sure, running on those government doge cuts for billionaires shitbag stuff.Yeah. It is. "X" will help elect more Trumpist Repubs in two years.