Zone1 Education Dept. asks hundreds of fired employees to temporarily return

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

So I'm conflicted by this situation for good reasons. But I also don't believe in cutting off one's nose to spite the one's face but there ARE risks involved on both sides. So I'm going to create a poll to get this one rolling.

MSN

 

[Winco]

Is that A1 person still in charge of the Department of Education?
Sadly, YES.



What could go wrong hiring a Fake Entertainment Character with ZERO Educational Experience to lead the Department of Education.

 

[OKTexas]

So I'm conflicted by this situation for good reasons. But I also don't believe in cutting off one's nose to spite the one's face but there ARE risks involved on both sides. So I'm going to create a poll to get this one rolling.

MSN

You left out the appropriate response in your poll, and simple "yes". They've been on paid leave, so why shouldn't the return to work when told to? If they refuse, that paycheck will stop.

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[Harry Dresden]

So I'm conflicted by this situation for good reasons. But I also don't believe in cutting off one's nose to spite the one's face but there ARE risks involved on both sides. So I'm going to create a poll to get this one rolling.

MSN

texas said they were getting paid while on leave....if true they return or they no longer have a job....if they were paid then it would be like a long vacation...

 

[1srelluc]

The agency said the request applies to roughly 250 workers who've been on administrative leave....

OK, they are now needed so they called them back into work. Seems as if they were being paid this whole time.

Hopefully the 250 are the more right-leaning of the bunch.

 

[Hafar1014]

Fire them all shut down the dept its a total failure

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

You left out the appropriate response in your poll, and simple "yes". They've been on paid leave, so why shouldn't the return to work when told to? If they refuse, that paycheck will stop.

I realized I left off the "I'm conflicted" option but couldn't locate the Edit button for my OP for some reason so I hit the back button, added it to the page before I published it and apparently it created two versions, so I apologize for having created extra work for you moderators.

As far as whether or not these former federal workers should return to work or not it's kind of hard to follow what's happened as they have been referred to as having been fired, on administrative leave, and/or currently involved in various legal actions in regards to their firing.

The point I was alluding to is that that there are risks on both parts however it makes the department look suspect, if they in haste or for a unlawful reason got rid of their workforce only now realizing that they don't have sufficient workers to carry out the mandate of the department, it makes it harder for them to defend their position if they're having to ask the SAME workers to come back.

Also, anyone who works in HR or security knows that the reason that you cut-off a worker's access to the company's network right at a time when they're scheduled to be away from their desk/device and being given formal notice is because workers have been known to sabotage the company's electronic assets in retaliation. So it's kind of boneheaded to ask them back while still openly displaying hostility towards them.

As far as being in the workers shoes, if they are represented by legal counsel then their attorneys will know the best way to protect them if they decide they would like to return but they should do so with the understanding that these people have already shown who they are and their utter disregard for the sensitivities of their workers or the trauma they may be inflicting by the callous manner in which they separated a significant portion of their workforce from their jobs and careers.

Some people work just to obtain the money they need to achieve the things they want. Other people have careers that they tend to and care for as they ascend. Irrespective of why a person works, they're entitled to a certain amount of dignity in the way in which a company treats them when removing/rescinding their employment.

There are people whom have worked tirelessly for workers rights who understand this even if others don't.

 

[Dekster]

I would return if I did not have other commitments. This isn't the first time this has happened. They recalled a bunch of fired employees soon after Elon fired them just to get the student loan side of the house functioning again.

 

[OKTexas]

I realized I left off the "I'm conflicted" option but couldn't locate the Edit button for my OP for some reason so I hit the back button, added it to the page before I published it and apparently it created two versions, so I apologize for having created extra work for you moderators.

As far as whether or not these former federal workers should return to work or not it's kind of hard to follow what's happened as they have been referred to as having been fired, on administrative leave, and/or currently involved in various legal actions in regards to their firing.

The point I was alluding to is that that there are risks on both parts however it makes the department look suspect, if they in haste or for a unlawful reason got rid of their workforce only now realizing that they don't have sufficient workers to carry out the mandate of the department, it makes it harder for them to defend their position if they're having to ask the SAME workers to come back.

Also, anyone who works in HR or security knows that the reason that you cut-off a worker's access to the company's network right at a time when they're scheduled to be away from their desk/device and being given formal notice is because workers have been known to sabotage the company's electronic assets in retaliation. So it's kind of boneheaded to ask them back while still openly displaying hostility towards them.

As far as being in the workers shoes, if they are represented by legal counsel then their attorneys will know the best way to protect them if they decide they would like to return but they should do so with the understanding that these people have already shown who they are and their utter disregard for the sensitivities of their workers or the trauma they may be inflicting by the callous manner in which they separated a significant portion of their workforce from their jobs and careers.

Some people work just to obtain the money they need to achieve the things they want. Other people have careers that they tend to and care for as they ascend. Irrespective of why a person works, they're entitled to a certain amount of dignity in the way in which a company treats them when removing/rescinding their employment.

There are people whom have worked tirelessly for workers rights who understand this even if others don't.

Whenever there's a reduction in force, people cut usually get severance packages, that's about as much dignity as anyone could ask for. However if these folks refuse to return as directed, that creates a whole other dynamic, termination for cause.

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[longly]

Is that A1 person still in charge of the Department of Education?
Sadly, YES.



What could go wrong hiring a Fake Entertainment Character with ZERO Educational Experience to lead the Department of Education.

The Department of Education is a total waste of money. They don't educate anyone. It does carry out some important functions, but not enough to justify the entire department. Those functions could be transferred to another department.

 

[Winco]

The Department of Education is a total waste of money. They don't educate anyone. It does carry out some important functions, but not enough to justify the entire department. Those functions could be transferred to another department.

As an educator, I agree.
Let my State do its job.


Let Oklahoma be free.........
to continue to be ranked 50th. WV says thanks for bailing us out.