Drugs kill 46,471 people a year, guns 8,145...gun grabbers want more drugs made legal?

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Drugs kill 46,471 people a year, guns 8,145...gun grabbers want more drugs made legal?"

This fails as a false comparison fallacy.

At least you're consistent at being ridiculous and wrong.

 

[2aguy]

Actually, in 2013 there were 505 accidental gun deaths......and suicides do not count since the individual makes the decision and can use other methods...and they do....the other half of suicides in this country don't use guns.

You don't think the drug legalizers don't want all drugs legal...really?

I've never heard anyone say we should make Cocaine legal. I've heard some sensible people say we should stop throwing poor people in prison for a few grams of crack while giving rich white people probation for a kilo of powdered cocaine. You know, treat it like a medical problem rather than a criminal one.

Not sure why you keep cherry picking 2013, probably because those numbers make the carnage look better.

No….because 2013 is the last year the CDC put out their numbers, they haven't put out the 2014 numbers yet…the FBI just did put out the 2014 numbers and guess what….

The gun murder rate went down again….2013….8,454 gun murders……2014….8,145….

So no, more guns do not mean more gun crime.

I have no problem treating drug use as a medical problem…it might reduce gun violence in our inner cities if the gangs aren't killing people over drug turf.

But what do you do with the gang members…they still have to make a living and they don't exactly have resumes to get a job at Burger King.

 

[2aguy]

There is this issue though.....if you were to legalize all drugs....what would all these criminals do when drugs are sold safely and cheaply in Wal Mart? They will still be there...they will still need money...what do they do?

Actually, if drugs were legalized, you'd have millions more drug addicts. That's why these drugs were outlawed to start with. You used to have snake oil salesmen put cocaine in home remedies, and people were buying them and getting higher than kites. Then after a few tragedies, we finally passed a drug law and regulated it.

Unlike the Gun Tragedies, where we have one mass shooting after another, 32,000 gun deaths a year, and you tools with the National Rampage Association living in fear that someone might limit what kind of guns you can own.

You lying asshole…again, you lump suicided in with gun murders committed mostly by career criminals……only 8,145 gun murders in 2014.

 

[2aguy]

Interesting paradox

If not for all the drugs there wouldn't be as many murders

And suicides don't count. It was in the post before yours.

They don't count because a gun can be replaced with the favorite method of suicide, a rope. In japan they just use poison, trains and high buildings.

 

[JoeB131]

You lying asshole…again, you lump suicided in with gun murders committed mostly by career criminals……only 8,145 gun murders in 2014.

Hey, Mac-Douchy, probably 95% of those drug deaths you complain about are "self-inflicted" (overdoses), but that seems to not bother you in your false equivlencies.

You are really a stupid person, aren't you?

They don't count because a gun can be replaced with the favorite method of suicide, a rope. In japan they just use poison, trains and high buildings.

How many people have a rope l ying about the house? How many can actually tie an effective noose.

Guns make up 55% of suicides. Falls make up only 2.1%.

Hanging AND suffocation make up only 20%.

Suicide Statistics at Suicide.org! Suicide Statistics, Suicide Statistics, Suicide Statistics, Suicide Statistics, Suicide Statistics!

 

[JoeB131]

No….because 2013 is the last year the CDC put out their numbers, they haven't put out the 2014 numbers yet…the FBI just did put out the 2014 numbers and guess what….

The gun murder rate went down again….2013….8,454 gun murders……2014….8,145….

The CDC isn't allowed to collect gun statistics... and the FBI's methods of reporting are inadequate according to you. (at least when they say there were only 56,000 DGU's instead of the millions you claim go on every time a gun makes you feel better about your tiny dick.)

 

[ScienceRocks]

Drugs kill the user. It is called freedom.
Guns are used to kill other people....That isn't freedom and is evil.

 

[Sally Vater]

No….because 2013 is the last year the CDC put out their numbers, they haven't put out the 2014 numbers yet…the FBI just did put out the 2014 numbers and guess what….

The gun murder rate went down again….2013….8,454 gun murders……2014….8,145….

The CDC isn't allowed to collect gun statistics... and the FBI's methods of reporting are inadequate according to you. (at least when they say there were only 56,000 DGU's instead of the millions you claim go on every time a gun makes you feel better about your tiny dick.)

Guns, assholes, and tiny dicks. Okay, where are the big dicks.

 

[koshergrl]

The progressive agenda is to reduce population....stop protecting children in the womb and in school, advocate drug use, promote insanity, turn violent criminals loose and voila ... Or as our less learned say... VIOLA.

 

[JoeB131]

The progressive agenda is to reduce population....stop protecting children in the womb and in school, advocate drug use, promote insanity, turn violent criminals loose and voila ... Or as our less learned say... VIOLA.

And yet you are still around, completely defying Darwin's law of natural selection.

Ah, if only we had Saber-Tooth Tigers to take out the bubba rednecks.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Republicans against bug pharma, I like it.

 

[2aguy]

No….because 2013 is the last year the CDC put out their numbers, they haven't put out the 2014 numbers yet…the FBI just did put out the 2014 numbers and guess what….

The gun murder rate went down again….2013….8,454 gun murders……2014….8,145….

The CDC isn't allowed to collect gun statistics... and the FBI's methods of reporting are inadequate according to you. (at least when they say there were only 56,000 DGU's instead of the millions you claim go on every time a gun makes you feel better about your tiny dick.)

Dipshit. The CDC reports on gun deaths….they can't use that information to advocate against gun rights…moron. Check out CDC table 10 asswipe.

 

[2aguy]

Drugs kill the user. It is called freedom.
Guns are used to kill other people....That isn't freedom and is evil.

Because criminals do it…..stop the criminal…leave the law abiding people alone, they law abiding use guns….according to bill clinton and his Department of Justice study, 1.5 million times a year, to stop violent criminal attack and save lives…….

8,145 gun murders by criminals.

1.5 million times a year bill clinton says normal Americans use guns to stop violent criminal attack and save lives…..

 

[2aguy]

You lying asshole…again, you lump suicided in with gun murders committed mostly by career criminals……only 8,145 gun murders in 2014.

Hey, Mac-Douchy, probably 95% of those drug deaths you complain about are "self-inflicted" (overdoses), but that seems to not bother you in your false equivlencies.

You are really a stupid person, aren't you?

They don't count because a gun can be replaced with the favorite method of suicide, a rope. In japan they just use poison, trains and high buildings.

How many people have a rope l ying about the house? How many can actually tie an effective noose.

Guns make up 55% of suicides. Falls make up only 2.1%.

Hanging AND suffocation make up only 20%.

Suicide Statistics at Suicide.org! Suicide Statistics, Suicide Statistics, Suicide Statistics, Suicide Statistics, Suicide Statistics!

They seem to do real well when they are auto erotically asphyxiating themselves……..but you should know all about that joe….

 

[JoeB131]

Dipshit. The CDC reports on gun deaths….they can't use that information to advocate against gun rights…moron. Check out CDC table 10 asswipe.

They are prohibited from studying gun deaths at all.

But here's a great idea. Let's make a list of EVERY gun death.

Five categories.

Suicides - 19,500
Accidents 800
Killed by family member/friend/acquaintance over domestic dispute - probably about 6000
Killed by total stranger in commission of a crime. maybe about 2000.
Killed a bad guy during the commission of a crime. -200

Five categories. that's all you get.

Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

 

[JoeB131]

They seem to do real well when they are auto erotically asphyxiating themselves……..but you should know all about that joe….

No, that would be silly. Besides that, I can actually get a woman unlike some of you people.

Anyway...

Point is- guns cause 33,000 deaths a year in this country.

Terrorists kill 21 Americans a year.

Guess which one we are spending billions of dollars fighting.

 

[JoeB131]

Because criminals do it…..stop the criminal…leave the law abiding people alone, they law abiding use guns….according to bill clinton and his Department of Justice study, 1.5 million times a year, to stop violent criminal attack and save lives…….

8,145 gun murders by criminals.

You logic here is circular. Mercer got a gun because he wasn't a criminal, but when he shot nine people he became a criminal.

And no, there are not 1.5 million DGU's a year. You threatening your black neighbor with a gun does not count as a DGU.

 

[Theowl32]

Yeah....since I imagine a lot of you gun grabbers want drug legalization .....do you realize that drugs kill 46,471 people a year...in 2013 stats from the CDC....

Criminals murdered 8,454 people in 2013....

Why is it then that you guys want more drugs available but want guns banned...and yes....you want guns banned....

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

I would say more than half (well more than half) of those that murdered others with a gun, were high as hell on illegal drugs.

Yes, even marijuana.

Liberals, are such a scourge on all of human liberty.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Interesting paradox

If not for all the drugs there wouldn't be as many murders

And if not for open borders, there wouldn't be so much drugs.

 

[2aguy]

Dipshit. The CDC reports on gun deaths….they can't use that information to advocate against gun rights…moron. Check out CDC table 10 asswipe.

They are prohibited from studying gun deaths at all.

But here's a great idea. Let's make a list of EVERY gun death.

Five categories.

Suicides - 19,500
Accidents 800
Killed by family member/friend/acquaintance over domestic dispute - probably about 6000
Killed by total stranger in commission of a crime. maybe about 2000.
Killed a bad guy during the commission of a crime. -200

Five categories. that's all you get.

Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence

Yeah….let's use an anti gun left wing group to talk gun issues…you are a moron.

Accidental gun deaths in 2013 from the CDC 505.

All gun murders from the FBI table 8, 2014….8,145

Suicides don't count since any other method can simply be substituted and almost half of suicides in this country, over 19,000 are not committed with a gun.

Crimes stopped with guns by armed, law abiding civilians, as per the study commissioned by bill clinton and conducted by 2 anti gun researchers through the Dept. of Justice….

1.5 million….

So

8,145 gun murders by criminals breaking the law.

1.5 million crimes stopped by armed civilians.

Try to do the math….use your toes when you need them.