Dr. Alan Savoury on turning deserts green?

[DennisPTate]

Dr. Alan Savoury states that herd animals can turn deserts green.

The concern over methane from cow manure is not as important as some people seem to think that it is.

 

[Darkwind]

Well, that is likely the slowest form of Terraforming I've listened to.

But it would work.

 

[Stryder50]

Regards credentials and bona fides;

Allan Savory - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[DennisPTate]

Well, that is likely the slowest form of Terraforming I've listened to.

But it would work.

Perhaps there could be ways to speed up the process around those herd animals?




I love the idea of hydrogen fuel vehicles that give off an exhaust of gaseous H2O, being used in nations with lots of deserts so that there is more H2O in the atmosphere and thus greening the deserts goes up to a whole new level.

 

[DennisPTate]

Regards credentials and bona fides;

Allan Savory - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I was impressed by how he publicly admitted that he had been on the wrong track for a long time but then he had to face the fact that he had bought into some myths.

Clifford Allan Redin Savory (born 15 September 1935) is a Zimbabwean ecologist and former soldier, farmer, rancher, and Rhodesian politician. He is the President Emeritus and co-founder of the Savory Institute. He originated holistic management,<a href="Allan Savory - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> a systems thinking approach to managing resources, and the origin story his professional life's work is told in the memoir UnSavory: African Stories of Wildlife, War and the Birth of Holistic Management<a href="Allan Savory - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a>.

Savory advocates that management at all levels, from individual to household or community to governance, should be "holistic," a term coined by J.C. Smuts in his book Holism and Evolution<a href="Allan Savory - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a>. This central concept of Holistic Management is most practically applied in Savory's planning procedure for land and livestock management (Holistic Planned Grazing), which allows farmers, ranchers, or pastoralists to bunch and move livestock—when contextually appropriate—in an effort to honor the co-evolved relationships between grassland and herbivores, and as a means to restore degraded landscapes

 

[ozro]

As you can see, here in Arizona the cattle have not turned the desert green.

 

[LibertyWeeps]

Well, that is likely the slowest form of Terraforming I've listened to.

But it would work.

Anywhere there is a substantial, ongoing placement of food..............something will grow there.
Some animal will end up calling it home.

And a new ecosystem will begin.

It happens all over the planet. Even at the bottom of the oceans.

 

[Darkwind]

Anywhere there is a substantial, ongoing placement of food..............something will grow there.
Some animal will end up calling it home.

And a new ecosystem will begin.

It happens all over the planet. Even at the bottom of the oceans.

Yep, It works. I'm just saying if your goal is to terraform the deserts, that is probably the slowest way to do it.

lol

 

[LibertyWeeps]

Yep, It works. I'm just saying if your goal is to terraform the deserts, that is probably the slowest way to do it.

lol

Well, with part of the Asian continent cracking in half...........the deserts there won't be there for much longer.

All you need to change any ecosystem, is either a stable food supply and water........or the deletion of them.

 

[EMH]

The atmosphere is not the cause of Earth climate change, but it does amplify it. The gas concentrations are way overhyped and overblown. It is the amount of gas in the atmosphere that matters more, not the specific gasses. All gasses absorb some form of the Sun's EM. CO2 absorbs weak IR and hence does nothing.


Now, the cause of turning deserts green is a noble one, at least I think so now...

 

[LibertyWeeps]

Animal excretement carries seeds in it.
If animals find a new area to dump in, that area will be a food charged location that will start a new ecosystem, IF it has a steady supply of water/rain.

It's not a hard thing to do. It just takes stability and consistency.

 

[DennisPTate]

Yep, It works. I'm just saying if your goal is to terraform the deserts, that is probably the slowest way to do it.

lol

True but there are ways to speed up the process all around those herd animals and permaculture projects.

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[DennisPTate]

The atmosphere is not the cause of Earth climate change, but it does amplify it. The gas concentrations are way overhyped and overblown. It is the amount of gas in the atmosphere that matters more, not the specific gasses. All gasses absorb some form of the Sun's EM. CO2 absorbs weak IR and hence does nothing.


Now, the cause of turning deserts green is a noble one, at least I think so now...

Dr. Chaim Henry Tejman feels that plants and trees hold the key to stabilization of the climate.

I think that he is correct.

Our environment is obviously undergoing major changes, and I believe that trees have a vital role in the atmospheric balance. Trees possess the ability to absorb much of the incoming energy. Gradually, trees that have absorbed energy submerge beneath the ground and turn into coal. Mankind is presently consuming unprecedented amounts of energy. Instead of storing the energy, like nature, we are releasing it into the atmosphere. Therefore, an international effort must be made to stop cutting down trees and to plant as many more as possible.

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[excalibur]

Deserts ate a natural part of the planet, messing with them like that would probably bring disastrous, unforeseen results.

 

[EMH]

Dr. Chaim Henry Tejman feels that plants and trees hold the key to stabilization of the climate.

I think that he is correct.

There is no question that increasing CO2 helps plant life thrive and increase. It does that without man.



"Our environment is obviously undergoing major changes"

is complete BS and outed so by the actual data. Strongest decade for canes still the 1940s. Nobody can show us a photo documenting ocean rise. Surface Air Pressure is not rising. The actual unfudged data from satellites and balloons showed no warming in the atmosphere.

There are ZERO "major changes" happening.