Downton Abbey

[Sherry]

And then Bates darkens episode's end with his creepy sign-off, "Nothing is over. And nothing is done with," to poor Mrs. Hughes...

Another great episode.

Yep. it was Another fabulously satisfying episode' Bates is misdirecting his anger at poor Mrs. Hughes.


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Looks like the rapist came back one too many times. Bates really suspects him now, he seems to know it was him.

I think he was intentionally taunting Bates after Mrs. Hughs confronted him and he found out from her that Bates knew of the attack, but not the attacker.

 

[Sarah G]

Yep. it was Another fabulously satisfying episode' Bates is misdirecting his anger at poor Mrs. Hughes.


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Looks like the rapist came back one too many times. Bates really suspects him now, he seems to know it was him.

I think he was intentionally taunting Bates after Mrs. Hughs confronted him and he found out from her that Bates knew of the attack, but not the attacker.

He was taunting Bates, I'm sure. At the end of the scene Bates was giving him a long stare, it just looked like the rapist was as good as dead.

 

[JakeStarkey]

That's conflict! Will the attacker's body be found in the fields somewhere with his head broken.

 

[Sarah G]

That's conflict! Will the attacker's body be found in the fields somewhere with his head broken.

It'd be hilarious if Anna did it.

 

[MikeK]

That's conflict! Will the attacker's body be found in the fields somewhere with his head broken.

It'd be hilarious if Anna did it.

That didn't occur to me. But it is an interesting projection with more than one possible outcome -- one of which could be supremely tragic. That being Anna killing the rapist to relieve Bates of his perceived obligation to do it.

 

[Sarah G]

That's conflict! Will the attacker's body be found in the fields somewhere with his head broken.

It'd be hilarious if Anna did it.

That didn't occur to me. But it is an interesting projection with more than one possible outcome -- one of which could be supremely tragic. That being Anna killing the rapist to relieve Bates of his perceived obligation to do it.

It would also release that rage inside her. It'll be interesting to see.

 

[MikeK]

It'd be hilarious if Anna did it.

That didn't occur to me. But it is an interesting projection with more than one possible outcome -- one of which could be supremely tragic. That being Anna killing the rapist to relieve Bates of his perceived obligation to do it.

It would also release that rage inside her. It'll be interesting to see.

If she does it I hope it's done in some apparently justifiable manner -- such as defending against an attempt to rape her. I know she's smart enough to do that, and with potential witnesses like Mrs. Hughes and Carson, and character references like the Crawley family, it could easily be done. All she needs is a handy weapon.

 

[Papageorgio]

Started watching this show last year and it has become a favorite.

Lots of plots, twists and turns. The story lines are well written, they acting is superb. We need more of this type of television.

 

[Sarah G]

That didn't occur to me. But it is an interesting projection with more than one possible outcome -- one of which could be supremely tragic. That being Anna killing the rapist to relieve Bates of his perceived obligation to do it.

It would also release that rage inside her. It'll be interesting to see.

If she does it I hope it's done in some apparently justifiable manner -- such as defending against an attempt to rape her. I know she's smart enough to do that, and with potential witnesses like Mrs. Hughes and Carson, and character references like the Crawley family, it could easily be done. All she needs is a handy weapon.

Well, well, well ....

 

[Sarah G]

Did anyone find it wonderful (like I did) when Robert returned from his trip and was welcomed by everyone so warmly and then when Cora walked up to say hello, it was like the sun started shining again.

I love their relationship this season.

I remember last season when Robert told her she can be curiously cruel at times. It's true.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Did anyone find it wonderful (like I did) when Robert returned from his trip and was welcomed by everyone so warmly and then when Cora walked up to say hello, it was like the sun started shining again.

I love their relationship this season.

I remember last season when Robert told her she can be curiously cruel at times. It's true.

Except that Cora can be so simpering and whimpering. Also annoying was how everyone applauded Cora for actually doing something. OTOH, that was/is the life of the idle rich. Lately, there was a scene in which Robert, at the breakfast table, all but gasped that it was 'half past 8 and he was late'.

It just seems to me to be a bizarre lifestyle. So wealthy that one does not even dress or undress one's self. That in itself is kind of interesting/fun to watch but you have to wonder what in the world they did all day. I mean, how much embroidery can one do?

But yes, the homecoming was very sweet.

But now, will we ever find out for sure that Bates killed the slime rapist? Obviously, Mary believes he did.

Thing is, if they identify him for sure, then they have to deal with that. They can't send him back to prison and they can't have the Crawley's and/or the house staff condone murder and, what would Anna say about murder?

Oh and, I was glad that Mrs Crawley was able pull Gram-ma-ma through her illness. Their relationship is just wonderful.

I didn't realize that Maggie Smith is not a "Dame". I think she should be. She's one of Britain's national treasures.

 

[Papageorgio]

Not sure how the Bates going to town and the murder will be handled. Maybe it is going to be something that is unspoken. Cora does whimper and whine way to much. I like the family and the affection for Robert when he returned.

An interesting lifestyle regardless.

 

[MikeK]

Rather unsatisfyingly presumptive disposition of the rapist (and Anna is becoming a bit of a pain-in-the-ass). I was hoping to see Bates beat him to death with his cane. But I forgot, it's post-Victorian England.

Too many people now know about the rape. And the idea that Mary needs to be reassured Bates' presumed act of vengeance is morally justified is unsettling.

Thomas Barrow's curiosity about Anna's and Bates' mysterious behavior, and his effort to have Cora's new maid pay attention to it, portends some future problem related to the issue.

And am I the only one expecting Rose to announce she is knocked up? That, combined with the bun in Edith's oven would make Robert catatonic. Thomas Branson is one thing, but a little Sambo in the family is quite another. That would be the final cheerio.

I love Downton Abbey!

 

[Zander]

Did anyone find it wonderful (like I did) when Robert returned from his trip and was welcomed by everyone so warmly and then when Cora walked up to say hello, it was like the sun started shining again.

I love their relationship this season.

I remember last season when Robert told her she can be curiously cruel at times. It's true.

I agree Sarah. Cora and Robert are demonstrably more loving towards one another this season. They seem optimistic; as if their challenges are behind them and a bright future awaits. It all seems very authentic to me. They've come through an incredibly bloody, horrific trench War; They have lost one daughter; lost a son-in-law and heir; lost a fortune; gained a fortune!!. It wasn't easy , but they made it. They have reason to be optimistic! How could it get any worse? ....

 

[Zander]

Rather unsatisfyingly presumptive disposition of the rapist (and Anna is becoming a bit of a pain-in-the-ass). I was hoping to see Bates beat him to death with his cane. But I forgot, it's post-Victorian England.

Too many people now know about the rape. And the idea that Mary needs to be reassured Bates' presumed act of vengeance is morally justified is unsettling.

Thomas Barrow's curiosity about Anna's and Bates' mysterious behavior, and his effort to have Cora's new maid pay attention to it, portends some future problem related to the issue.

And am I the only one expecting Rose to announce she is knocked up? That, combined with the bun in Edith's oven would make Robert catatonic. Thomas Branson is one thing, but a little Sambo in the family is quite another. That would be the final cheerio.

I love Downton Abbey!

 

[Sarah G]

I've truly never found Cora to be simpery and wimpery at all. She can be very firm at times like when she got rid of the fat nanny. She talks about people all the time which is what prompted Robert to say that she can be cruel.

She actually smiled when he said that.

Sorry to disagree but she really works hard, there is a lot to running a household like that. They just did things differently back then. Even the grandma works by staying in touch with family. You see her in her office all the time writing letters.

They are rich but were in danger of losing everything before Matthew saved them.

 

[Sarah G]

Want to see inside the REAL Downton Abbey? From grandiose entrance halls to luxury sitting rooms, take a peek inside Britain's best known stately home and see how the aristocracy live | Mail Online

Want to see inside the REAL Downton Abbey? From grandiose entrance halls to luxury sitting rooms, take a peek inside Britain's best known stately home and see how the aristocracy live

People can buy tickets to have a tour of Highclere Castle in Newbury, Berkshire, which was built in 1838

The 1,000-acre estate dates back to the Iron Age and has housed people for more than 1300 years

The manor in its current form was created by Sir Charles Barry, who designed the Palace of Westminster

Visitors can have tours of the entire estate, or even just the garden, which has courted ITV viewers for four series

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I've truly never found Cora to be simpery and wimpery at all. She can be very firm at times like when she got rid of the fat nanny. She talks about people all the time which is what prompted Robert to say that she can be cruel.

She actually smiled when he said that.

Sorry to disagree but she really works hard, there is a lot to running a household like that. They just did things differently back then. Even the grandma works by staying in touch with family. You see her in her office all the time writing letters.

They are rich but were in danger of losing everything before Matthew saved them.

I had forgotten about her firing the nanny and then staying with the babies until someone else came. She was great.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Rather unsatisfyingly presumptive disposition of the rapist (and Anna is becoming a bit of a pain-in-the-ass). I was hoping to see Bates beat him to death with his cane. But I forgot, it's post-Victorian England.

Too many people now know about the rape. And the idea that Mary needs to be reassured Bates' presumed act of vengeance is morally justified is unsettling.

Thomas Barrow's curiosity about Anna's and Bates' mysterious behavior, and his effort to have Cora's new maid pay attention to it, portends some future problem related to the issue.

And am I the only one expecting Rose to announce she is knocked up? That, combined with the bun in Edith's oven would make Robert catatonic. Thomas Branson is one thing, but a little Sambo in the family is quite another. That would be the final cheerio.

I love Downton Abbey!

In that era, being raped meant something a lot different than it does now. Anna is actually being very courageous. How many women, in any era could stand to be in the same room, sitting at the same table, with their rapist? Honestly, I was hoping she'd go across the table at him.

Bates said he was going to York but the rapist lives elsewhere. Can't remember where now. Not that that would be much of an alibi.

I am fascinated by the lifestyle, the home, the art - all of it. PBS has done a documentary on the house and its history. The man who inherited it (the umpty zillions Earl of Carnarvon, I think) and his wife, live there and the dog, Isis, is theirs. Apparently, she just sorta adopted the actors and film makers. I like that.

Also, I saw a web site about how they jewelry and costumes are made exactly as they would have been 'in the day'. Beautiful and just fascinating.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Want to see inside the REAL Downton Abbey? From grandiose entrance halls to luxury sitting rooms, take a peek inside Britain's best known stately home and see how the aristocracy live | Mail Online

Want to see inside the REAL Downton Abbey? From grandiose entrance halls to luxury sitting rooms, take a peek inside Britain's best known stately home and see how the aristocracy live

People can buy tickets to have a tour of Highclere Castle in Newbury, Berkshire, which was built in 1838

The 1,000-acre estate dates back to the Iron Age and has housed people for more than 1300 years

The manor in its current form was created by Sir Charles Barry, who designed the Palace of Westminster

Visitors can have tours of the entire estate, or even just the garden, which has courted ITV viewers for four series

Amazing, isn't it.

Apparently, the series is literally saving this wonderful home. If I remember right, the upkeep costs $1million a year.

I LOVE the architecture in GB and Europe. We've been talking about going to see this house but this next trip is to France to see the ancient cave art. Maybe next time.

Thanks for this link.