DOW, S&P and Nasdaq

[SweetTea]

Why do these keep rising under Trump? How many news highs have been hit? Those hoping for a recession by 2020 are in for a rude awakening.

One thing is for certain...if one of the leftist kooks gets elected, we will head quickly into a recession which they will undoubtedly blame on Trump.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It is very nice to see them rising finally after 600 plus days of stagnation.

Shame it took the Fed lowering the rates even more for this to happen. It shows the underlying weakness to our economy.

It would be nice to top 2014 when there was 38 record highs in one year.

 

[Snouter]

I openly admit I fucked up. I sold all my mutual funds assuming the Deep State would undermine the stock market after President Trump won. Devastating. Most was in 401Ks so tax free until withdrawal. 50% appreciation vs 1% or so with CDs sucks, and yet the illiterate Connecticut Revenue morons audited me and it has been almost a year since I provided the info to prove they are wrong and still no answer. Will the DOW go higher if President Trump wins in another landslide? Most likely.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The fed is starting to dump hundreds of billions again. Wall street loves free money.

 

[SweetTea]

It is very nice to see them rising finally after 600 plus days of stagnation.

Shame it took the Fed lowering the rates even more for this to happen. It shows the underlying weakness to our economy.

It would be nice to top 2014 when there was 38 record highs in one year.

To reach 38 record highs, we would need to be very low again. Is it harder to double your money if you have 1 penny or 10,000 dollars?

Any financial advisor worth his/her salt will advise their clients to move into much more conservative vehicles if a Democrat gets elected. That is all you need to know. The markets will NEVER recover from a Warren presidency if she is able to get the things she is proposing.

 

[SAYIT]

Why do these keep rising under Trump? How many news highs have been hit? Those hoping for a recession by 2020 are in for a rude awakening.

One thing is for certain...if one of the leftist kooks gets elected, we will head quickly into a recession which they will undoubtedly blame on Trump.

Yanno, our investment markets are not the same as our economy - which has also done well the last 3 years - but they are harbingers of investor belief in our economic future.

Clearly those who bet with their often hard-earned cash are putting their money on Trump 2020.

 

[SweetTea]

I openly admit I fucked up. I sold all my mutual funds assuming the Deep State would undermine the stock market after President Trump won. Devastating. Most was in 401Ks so tax free until withdrawal. 50% appreciation vs 1% or so with CDs sucks, and yet the illiterate Connecticut Revenue morons audited me and it has been almost a year since I provided the info to prove they are wrong and still no answer. Will the DOW go higher if President Trump wins in another landslide? Most likely.

Yes, the markets will absolutely flourish if Trump gets re-elected. They are doing well despite impeachment, no trade deal and a no USMCA, thanks to the Democrats. China and our other adversaries are hoping beyond hope that we are dumb enough to elect one of the Democrats.

After 4 more years of success, I can only imagine how left the kooks will turn in 2024. Maybe they will have all professed Socialists and a couple of Democratic Communists(whatever that is) running.

 

[SweetTea]

Why do these keep rising under Trump? How many news highs have been hit? Those hoping for a recession by 2020 are in for a rude awakening.

One thing is for certain...if one of the leftist kooks gets elected, we will head quickly into a recession which they will undoubtedly blame on Trump.

Yanno, our investment markets are not the same as our economy - which has also done well the last 3 years - but they are harbingers of investor belief in our economic future.

Clearly those who bet with their often hard-earned cash are putting their money on Trump 2020.

Yes, that is a good thing. Those with money will push for Trump. Truly anyone with money in the market or who has a job should be pushing for Trump.

 

[SAYIT]

It is very nice to see them rising finally after 600 plus days of stagnation.

Shame it took the Fed lowering the rates even more for this to happen. It shows the underlying weakness to our economy.

It would be nice to top 2014 when there was 38 record highs in one year.

What??? No recognition of the fact that at 125 months this is America's longest economic expansion ever? That the Fed's action was prompted by their having - as 1 Fed Prez noted - "overdone" the increases in 2108? That we are sailing into a global economic slowdown headwind which has hurt US exports? That you invariably find reasons to whine about our winning with Trump as POTUS.

Need a tissue?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

To reach 38 record highs, we would need to be very low again. Is it harder to double your money if you have 1 penny or 10,000 dollars?

Your logic is faulty. Using this 10,000 you used...is it easier to get to 20,000 starting at the 10,000 or starting at the penny?

When the markets went very low they could not start setting new highs till they got back to where they started from....sort of like if you started with 10,000 and then lost it.

Any financial advisor worth his/her salt will advise their clients to move into much more conservative vehicles if a Democrat gets elected. That is all you need to know. The markets will NEVER recover from a Warren presidency if she is able to get the things she is proposing.

I agree with you about Warren and her winning the White House

 

[kyzr]

It is very nice to see them rising finally after 600 plus days of stagnation.

Shame it took the Fed lowering the rates even more for this to happen. It shows the underlying weakness to our economy.

It would be nice to top 2014 when there was 38 record highs in one year.

Look at the last two years of Obama's term below and you see no growth even with the Fed keeping rates near zero. Then from 2017 thru 2019 the DOW went up 40% after Trump cut regulations, cut taxes, brought money and jobs back from over seas. Does anyone want the democrats in-charge again? Not if they have a brain.

The chart below shows the Fed interest rate changes. Obama had rates near zero and still had a lousy economy. Trump has much higher rates and the economy is doing much better. QED Trump wins

 

[JoeMoma]

Regardless of who is president, there is a major correction coming in the markets. Dems want it to happen before Nov 2020.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I openly admit I fucked up. I sold all my mutual funds assuming the Deep State would undermine the stock market after President Trump won. Devastating. Most was in 401Ks so tax free until withdrawal. 50% appreciation vs 1% or so with CDs sucks, and yet the illiterate Connecticut Revenue morons audited me and it has been almost a year since I provided the info to prove they are wrong and still no answer. Will the DOW go higher if President Trump wins in another landslide? Most likely.

another landslide? He did not win in a landslide in the first election

 

[22lcidw]

It is very nice to see them rising finally after 600 plus days of stagnation.

Shame it took the Fed lowering the rates even more for this to happen. It shows the underlying weakness to our economy.

It would be nice to top 2014 when there was 38 record highs in one year.

This is telling you there is more of an underlying problem then we throw out for political reasons. The printing machine has been whirling for decades. We had a chance to build foundation when it was easier to take the pain. It will be tougher now for many if the worst happens. And Trump did not cause this.

 

[iceberg]

Why do these keep rising under Trump? How many news highs have been hit? Those hoping for a recession by 2020 are in for a rude awakening.

One thing is for certain...if one of the leftist kooks gets elected, we will head quickly into a recession which they will undoubtedly blame on Trump.

why do they keep falling under trump?

why are my investments overall around the same as a year ago?

 

[Meathead]

It is very nice to see them rising finally after 600 plus days of stagnation.

Shame it took the Fed lowering the rates even more for this to happen. It shows the underlying weakness to our economy.

It would be nice to top 2014 when there was 38 record highs in one year.

You'd rather it hover around 16000 than 26000?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

What??? No recognition of the fact that at 125 months this is America's longest economic expansion ever?

Sure, I will be happy to give Trump credit for the 25% of that 125 months as long as you give Obama credit for the other 75%...

you up for that?

That the Fed's action was prompted by their having - as 1 Fed Prez noted - "overdone" the increases in 2108? That we are sailing into a global economic slowdown headwind which has hurt US exports? That you invariably find reasons to whine about our winning with Trump as POTUS.

Even with the rise in 2018 we we still at historically low rates, that those tiny jumps in 2018 hurt the economy is a concern to anyone with a brain...so you are just SOL

 

[SAYIT]

Why do these keep rising under Trump? How many news highs have been hit? Those hoping for a recession by 2020 are in for a rude awakening.

One thing is for certain...if one of the leftist kooks gets elected, we will head quickly into a recession which they will undoubtedly blame on Trump.

Yanno, our investment markets are not the same as our economy - which has also done well the last 3 years - but they are harbingers of investor belief in our economic future.

Clearly those who bet with their often hard-earned cash are putting their money on Trump 2020.

Yes, that is a good thing. Those with money will push for Trump. Truly anyone with money in the market or who has a job should be pushing for Trump.

It should be noted that over half of American adults are investors but many others - some who rarely if ever participate - are also prospering thanks to our economy. BTW, Moody's latest models show a Trump landslide in 2020.

 

[BuckToothMoron]

The stock market record high has little to nothing to do with Trump. As others on this thread have already pointed out, it’s about the Fed. The Fed has made so much cheap money available that much of it ends up in real estate and the stock market. Companies are not using all this cash to expand, but rather are using it to buy back shares. Rates are so low that investors are chasing returns.

Take a look at the numbers below. Since 2006 the revenue for the S&P has barely grown at all, yet the price of the S&P has nearly tripled.

S&P Global Annual Revenue
(Millions of US $)
2018 $6,258
2017 $6,063
2016 $5,661
2015 $5,313
2014 $5,051
2013 $4,702
2012 $4,270
2011 $3,954
2010 $3,639
2009 $5,870
2008 $6,355
2007 $6,772
2006 $6,255

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You'd rather it hover around 16000 than 26000?

I would rather them not hover at all.