Donald Trump seeks to toss New York hush money conviction hours after Supreme Court ruling

[excalibur]

Months ago, Trump's attorneys said that he, Trump, had immunity.

Merchan, without holding an evidentiary hearing, denied Trump had immunity.

Now, following the SCOTUS ruling on immunity, Trump has a good argument since no State court has any authority (as I said back on April 3) to determine immunity of a Federal official let alone a former President.

Most likely, Merchan will deny, then off to higher courts, maybe even some writs, and this should end up in Federal curt if Trump gets no satisfaction in State court.

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Hours after the U.S. Supreme Court issued its landmark ruling about presidential immunity, former President Donald Trump on Monday evening sought to throw out his conviction in New York.​

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Trump's lawyers said the verdict should be tossed because the jury saw evidence during trial that they believe should have been protected by presidential immunity, according to a letter to Judge Juan Merchan, described by sources to ABC News.​

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The defense sought additional time to make their argument, a move that could delay Trump's sentencing, which is currently scheduled for July 11.​

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There was no comment from Trump's legal team. The Manhattan district attorney's office declined to comment.​

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A jury took less than 10 hours to convict Trump of 34 felony counts of falsifying business records about a hush payment to porn actress Stormy Daniels. Trump's then-lawyer, Michael Cohen, wired Daniels $130,000 and Trump reimbursed him in monthly installments disguised as routine legal expenses.​

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Trump's defense team previously invoked a presidential immunity argument in an unsuccessful effort to limit evidence and attempt to delay the trial.​

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In March, defense lawyers sought to exclude a government ethics form that disclosed Trump's reimbursement to Cohen as well as a series of tweets from 2018 that prosecutors alleged were part of a "pressure campaign" against Cohen.​

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"Under these appropriate standards, President Trump's social media posts and public statements-while acting as President and viewed in context-fell within the outer perimeter of his Presidential duty, to which communicating with the public on matters of public concern was central," Trump's lawyers wrote in the March motion that the judge rejected the motion ahead of trial.​

Donald Trump seeks to toss New York hush money conviction hours after Supreme Court ruling

Hours after the U.S. Supreme Court issued its landmark ruling about presidential immunity, former President Donald Trump on Monday evening sought to throw out his conviction in New York.

abc7ny.com

 

[Death-Ninja]

Merchan KNOWS Trump is an innocent man, it was Merchan and Bragg who framed him for these nonexistent felonies, Merchan and Engaron are both going to spend the remainder of their lives at gitmo, they have no intention of adhering to the law, they know they are doomed men!

 

[Dante]

"The effort to set aside the conviction might be a long shot."

"The Manhattan case centers on acts Mr. Trump took as a candidate, not as president."

 

[Blisterfinger]

"The effort to set aside the conviction might be a long shot."

"The Manhattan case centers on acts Mr. Trump took as a candidate, not as president."

The whole case had no standing and is a sham. Third world shit here, propaganda for the gullible. Trump tore apart the decrepit ring leader last Thursday night. All Democrats are fools

 

[Dante]

The whole case had no standing and is a sham. Third world shit here, propaganda for the gullible. Trump tore apart the decrepit ring leader last Thursday night. All Democrats are fools

Standing?

D'Oh!

 

[Blisterfinger]

Standing?

D'Oh!

Yep, none.

Derp!

 

[MagicMike]

Merchan KNOWS Trump is an innocent man, it was Merchan and Bragg who framed him for these nonexistent felonies, Merchan and Engaron are both going to spend the remainder of their lives at gitmo, they have no intention of adhering to the law, they know they are doomed men!

Gheeez!
Melodrama much?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No grounds for dismal. The crimes were committed before Trump was elected,

 

[Dante]

This thread and comments about "standing" have me thinking...

Mr. Trump,
He's a real nowhere man
Sitting in his nowhere land
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody

Doesn't have a point of view
Knows not where he's going to

Nowhere man please listen
You don't know what you're missing
Nowhere man, the world is at your command

He's as blind as he can be
Just sees what he wants to see
Nowhere man, can you see me at all
Nowhere man don't worry
Take your time, don't hurry
Leave it all 'til somebody else
Lends you a hand

Ah, la, la, la, la

Doesn't have a point of view
Knows not where he's going to

Nowhere man please listen
You don't know what you're missing
Nowhere man, The world is at your command

Ah, la, la, la, la

He's a real nowhere man
Sitting in his nowhere land

Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody
Making all his nowhere plans for nobody

 

[struth]

"The effort to set aside the conviction might be a long shot."

"The Manhattan case centers on acts Mr. Trump took as a candidate, not as president."

True, it might be a long shot, but I was under the impression the evidence showed he wrote the checks in the oval office, as President....might be wrong...or maybe it only applies to some of the charges...i don't know, but certainly, it would be malpractice if his attorneys didn't raise the argument

 

[Dante]

True, it might be a long shot, but I was under the impression the evidence showed he wrote the checks in the oval office, as President....might be wrong...or maybe it only applies to some of the charges...i don't know, but certainly, it would be malpractice if his attorneys didn't raise the argument

I believe your opinion is informed more by a defense of Mr. Trump than it is of the facts before us all. That said, Mr. Trump cannot go back and argue ineffective representation. That would be laughed out of any court before it got legs.

Any writing of checks from his personal account cannot be a legal argument for doing so as an official act.

 

[leftwinger]

As DJT should. This judge and the NY rape judge should be disbarred and sent to Gitmo on the next military flight for Sedition or Election interference and stripped of all wealth obtained to date (most importantly DNC payoffs for this criminal witch hunts). If ATL and smith don't stand down right away..........the same fate for them.

 

[Dante]

As DJT should. This judge and the NY rape judge should be disbarred and sent to Gitmo on the next military flight for Sedition or Election interference and stripped of all wealth obtained to date (most importantly DNC payoffs for this criminal witch hunts). If ATL and smith don't stand down right away..........the same fate for them.

Go troll with your imbecilic nonsense elsewhere, trollboi.

 

[struth]

I believe your opinion is informed more by a defense of Mr. Trump than it is of the facts before us all. That said, Mr. Trump cannot go back and argue ineffective representation. That would be laughed out of any court before it got legs.

Any writing of checks from his personal account cannot be a legal argument for doing so as an official act.

Certainly, it's being argued in this case as a defense, at this point in the case.

I never said he should argue ineffective representation, they aren't, they are in fact effective by raising the argument....

as to your last point, that is certainly, something the State could argue, if the Court finds the SCOTUS ruling would apply, and how they could overcome the presumption.

I certainly agree, it's a long shot

 

[Dante]

Certainly, it's being argued in this case as a defense, at this point in the case.

I never said he should argue ineffective representation, they aren't, they are in fact effective by raising the argument....

as to your last point, that is certainly, something the State could argue, if the Court finds the SCOTUS ruling would apply, and how they could overcome the presumption.

I certainly agree, it's a long shot

The prosecutors and legal team Trump have had lots of time to figure out options before the ruling came down. One thing hampering legal team Trump is the man himself. It appears Mr. Trump insists on using political arguments in parts of legal ones. So far that kind of thing might have favored Mr. Trump's polling and ego, but in courts it's been usually -- smacked down. Smacked down by judges favorable and even appointed by Trump when he was president.

 

[struth]

The prosecutors and legal team Trump have had lots of time to figure out options before the ruling came down. One thing hampering legal team Trump is the man himself. It appears Mr. Trump insists on using political arguments in parts of legal ones. So far that kind of thing might have favored Mr. Trump's polling and ego, but in courts it's been usually -- smacked down. Smacked down by judges favorable and even appointed by Trump when he was president.

What are you talking about? What political arguments?

My understanding is they raised the immunity defense, the NY judge disagreed, and now his defense attorneys are raising the issue again, which they can.

It certainly might not be something he can use here but something they should at least raise

 

[Dante]

What are you talking about? What political arguments?

My understanding is they raised the immunity defense, the NY judge disagreed, and now his defense attorneys are raising the issue again, which they can.

It certainly might not be something he can use here but something they should at least raise

The political arguments that got laughed out of multiple courts, and in the NY State case, laughed out on multiple occasions.

 

[struth]

The political arguments that got laughed out of multiple courts, and in the NY State case, laughed out on multiple occasions.

What were they?

 

[Dante]

What were they?

For one, trying to make the hush money trial about Cohen, as if Cohen was on trial. That went nowhere legally, but politically it was a Trump base feeding frenzy.

And whenever Trump made public statements that were smacked down in court. bs: Claiming the DOJ pressured by Biden to go after Trump.

One can look it all up, but as with most shit Trump throws against walls, there's far too much of it -- it becomes overwhelming and gets lost in the background.

 

[struth]

For one, trying to make the hush money trial about Cohen, as if Cohen was on trial. That went nowhere legally, but politically it was a Trump base feeding frenzy.

And whenever Trump made public statements that were smacked down in court. bs: Claiming the DOJ pressured by Biden to go after Trump.

One can look it all up, but as with most shit Trump throws against walls, there's far too much of it -- it becomes overwhelming and gets lost in the background.

How is that polltical? It was about Cohen, was he not one of their star witnesses?

Well that much is true, but he didn’t argue that at trial. We know Bragg met with White House officials.

So your claim he argued politics, is he made the case about Cohen? Haha