Donald Trump and RFK Jr. to Discuss Ending Child Vaccines

[PeterPilot]

I would be all for this. That is if they actually know without a shadow of a doubt that the vaccines are unsafe. As America wants as many healthy children as possible.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-discuss-ending-childhood-vaccination-programs-with-rfk-jr-2024-12-12/

My 2 children were born in '81 and '84 and we gave them the recommended vaccines, about 5 or 6 back in those days.

If I knew then what I know now we would not have given them any at all.

 

[PeterPilot]

The idiots in charge believe that vaccines cause autism.

Great job, America.

You don't want to hear about it, but there are quite a few connections between vaccines and autism. Call it circumstantial evidence, but it's real.

 

[Mac-7]

They did say just any vaccines that they deemed to be dangerous guys.

Libs have not even seen the list yet before declaring war

 

[PeterPilot]

vaccines for kids wont be ended ..

Did you know that there are a number of doctors in the US, pediatric type, that give the parents the choice to vaccinate or not? What's interesting is that the children who are not vaccinated at all are, by the time they reach 16 years or so, more healthy than those vaccinated.

Read it and weep.

 

[Road Runner]

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What are you babbling about now?

 

[DakotaKai_fan20]

I don't want vaccines for my children. I got sick after various vaccines as a kid.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

RFK just filed with the FDA to pull approval for the polio vax.

These people are lying to you.

When are you gonna realize that?

Okay, this is worrisome:

Here’s a breakdown to clarify what’s happening and its potential implications:​

What is RFK Jr. doing now?​

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an outspoken critic of vaccines, is associated with efforts to challenge vaccine approvals in the U.S. His lawyer, Aaron Siri, filed a petition to the FDA on behalf of the Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN) to request the revocation of FDA approval for the polio vaccine.​

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This petition is part of a broader campaign by vaccine-skeptical groups that often call for more stringent testing of vaccines, claiming safety concerns. RFK Jr.'s public advocacy often focuses on challenging vaccine policies and mandates, emphasizing perceived risks despite overwhelming scientific evidence of vaccines' safety and effectiveness.​

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What authority does RFK Jr. (or others) have to petition the FDA?​

Anyone—whether an individual, organization, or group—can file a "Citizen Petition" with the FDA. This process allows the public to formally request the agency to issue, change, or revoke a regulation or take a specific administrative action.​

​

The FDA is required to respond, but filing a petition does not mean the FDA will act on it. The agency typically evaluates such petitions based on scientific evidence, public health needs, and legal considerations.​

​

In this case, RFK Jr.'s lawyer is exercising this legal right to challenge the polio vaccine's approval. The petition argues for safety reassessment, often framing it as a need for more rigorous studies.​

​

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What does "get rid of the polio vaccine" mean?​

"Getting rid of" the vaccine, in this context, refers to the petition's request for the FDA to revoke its approval. If the FDA were to revoke the polio vaccine's approval:​

1. It would no longer be available for administration in the U.S.
2. Doctors would be prohibited from prescribing or administering the vaccine.
3. The vaccine's removal would effectively eliminate it as a tool for preventing polio.

This doesn’t mean destroying existing supplies—it means removing the vaccine from the approved list, effectively halting its use.​

​

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What would be the real-life implications for Americans if the polio vaccine were revoked?​

1. Increased Risk of Polio Resurgence:
   
   • Polio is a highly contagious viral disease that can cause paralysis and death. Widespread vaccination has virtually eradicated polio in the U.S., but the virus still circulates in parts of the world.
   • Without the vaccine, there’s a significant risk that polio could reemerge, especially through international travel or contact with asymptomatic carriers in under-vaccinated communities.
2. Public Health Crisis:
   
   • Loss of herd immunity would expose millions of unvaccinated or under-vaccinated individuals, particularly children, to potential outbreaks.
   • Historical data shows that before the polio vaccine, the U.S. experienced tens of thousands of polio cases annually, leading to widespread paralysis and death.
3. Global Ramifications:
   
   • The U.S. has been a leader in global vaccination campaigns. Revoking approval for the polio vaccine could undermine international confidence in vaccines and fuel anti-vaccine movements worldwide.
4. Erosion of Public Trust in Vaccines:
   
   • Revocation of such a critical vaccine could lead to increased skepticism about other vaccines, potentially leading to outbreaks of other preventable diseases (e.g., measles, mumps, rubella).

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Will this petition succeed?​

It’s highly unlikely. The polio vaccine is one of the most rigorously studied and successful medical interventions in history. Scientific consensus overwhelmingly supports its safety and effectiveness.​

​

The FDA would need compelling, credible evidence of significant safety concerns to consider revoking approval. Currently, there’s no such evidence.​

​

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In Summary:​

RFK Jr., through his lawyer, has filed a petition challenging the FDA’s approval of the polio vaccine. While this is a legal right, it doesn’t mean the vaccine will be “gotten rid of.” If such an action were taken (which is extremely unlikely), the consequences could be catastrophic for public health, with the risk of polio outbreaks and erosion of confidence in life-saving vaccines.​

 

[Crepitus]

Okay, this is worrisome:

Here’s a breakdown to clarify what’s happening and its potential implications:​

What is RFK Jr. doing now?​

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., an outspoken critic of vaccines, is associated with efforts to challenge vaccine approvals in the U.S. His lawyer, Aaron Siri, filed a petition to the FDA on behalf of the Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN) to request the revocation of FDA approval for the polio vaccine.​

​

This petition is part of a broader campaign by vaccine-skeptical groups that often call for more stringent testing of vaccines, claiming safety concerns. RFK Jr.'s public advocacy often focuses on challenging vaccine policies and mandates, emphasizing perceived risks despite overwhelming scientific evidence of vaccines' safety and effectiveness.​

​

---

What authority does RFK Jr. (or others) have to petition the FDA?​

Anyone—whether an individual, organization, or group—can file a "Citizen Petition" with the FDA. This process allows the public to formally request the agency to issue, change, or revoke a regulation or take a specific administrative action.​

​

The FDA is required to respond, but filing a petition does not mean the FDA will act on it. The agency typically evaluates such petitions based on scientific evidence, public health needs, and legal considerations.​

​

In this case, RFK Jr.'s lawyer is exercising this legal right to challenge the polio vaccine's approval. The petition argues for safety reassessment, often framing it as a need for more rigorous studies.​

​

---

What does "get rid of the polio vaccine" mean?​

"Getting rid of" the vaccine, in this context, refers to the petition's request for the FDA to revoke its approval. If the FDA were to revoke the polio vaccine's approval:​

1. It would no longer be available for administration in the U.S.
2. Doctors would be prohibited from prescribing or administering the vaccine.
3. The vaccine's removal would effectively eliminate it as a tool for preventing polio.

This doesn’t mean destroying existing supplies—it means removing the vaccine from the approved list, effectively halting its use.​

​

---

What would be the real-life implications for Americans if the polio vaccine were revoked?​

1. Increased Risk of Polio Resurgence:
   
   • Polio is a highly contagious viral disease that can cause paralysis and death. Widespread vaccination has virtually eradicated polio in the U.S., but the virus still circulates in parts of the world.
   • Without the vaccine, there’s a significant risk that polio could reemerge, especially through international travel or contact with asymptomatic carriers in under-vaccinated communities.
2. Public Health Crisis:
   
   • Loss of herd immunity would expose millions of unvaccinated or under-vaccinated individuals, particularly children, to potential outbreaks.
   • Historical data shows that before the polio vaccine, the U.S. experienced tens of thousands of polio cases annually, leading to widespread paralysis and death.
3. Global Ramifications:
   
   • The U.S. has been a leader in global vaccination campaigns. Revoking approval for the polio vaccine could undermine international confidence in vaccines and fuel anti-vaccine movements worldwide.
4. Erosion of Public Trust in Vaccines:
   
   • Revocation of such a critical vaccine could lead to increased skepticism about other vaccines, potentially leading to outbreaks of other preventable diseases (e.g., measles, mumps, rubella).

---

Will this petition succeed?​

It’s highly unlikely. The polio vaccine is one of the most rigorously studied and successful medical interventions in history. Scientific consensus overwhelmingly supports its safety and effectiveness.​

​

The FDA would need compelling, credible evidence of significant safety concerns to consider revoking approval. Currently, there’s no such evidence.​

​

---

In Summary:​

RFK Jr., through his lawyer, has filed a petition challenging the FDA’s approval of the polio vaccine. While this is a legal right, it doesn’t mean the vaccine will be “gotten rid of.” If such an action were taken (which is extremely unlikely), the consequences could be catastrophic for public health, with the risk of polio outbreaks and erosion of confidence in life-saving vaccines.​

The mere fact that he's trying is worrisome.

 

[dudmuck]

What are you babbling about now?

 

[dudmuck]

You don't want to hear about it, but there are quite a few connections between vaccines and autism. Call it circumstantial evidence, but it's real.

 

[scruffy]

RFK just filed with the FDA to pull approval for the polio vax.

These people are lying to you.

When are you gonna realize that?

We could definitely make child vaxxes safer.

They're using a mercury based compound as a preservative for longer shelf life. Lots of kids have bad reactions to it.

This is 2025, not 1950. We can do better.

 

[scruffy]

You don't want to hear about it, but there are quite a few connections between vaccines and autism. Call it circumstantial evidence, but it's real.

Yes. There is a scientific link and it's well documented.

 

[john doe 101]

I would be all for this. That is if they actually know without a shadow of a doubt that the vaccines are unsafe. As America wants as many healthy children as possible.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-discuss-ending-childhood-vaccination-programs-with-rfk-jr-2024-12-12/

No you don't.

 

[john doe 101]

Yes. There is a scientific link and it's well documented.

Ok you stay in your tb and chicken pox colony then.

 

[Crepitus]

We could definitely make child vaxxes safer.

They're using a mercury based compound as a preservative for longer shelf life. Lots of kids have bad reactions to it.

This is 2025, not 1950. We can do better.

Vaccine Ingredients: Thimerosal

Some people have worried that thimerosal could cause mercury poisoning either in children or affect the unborn children of pregnant women who receive this vaccine. But, for many reasons, thimerosal is not harmful.

www.chop.edu

 

[scruffy]

Vaccine Ingredients: Thimerosal

Some people have worried that thimerosal could cause mercury poisoning either in children or affect the unborn children of pregnant women who receive this vaccine. But, for many reasons, thimerosal is not harmful.

www.chop.edu

 

[scruffy]

Engage brain.

What does this graph tell you?

 

[Crepitus]

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Changes in reporting and relaxing of the stigma not to mention hugely increasing population.

 

[scruffy]

Changes in reporting and relaxing of the stigma not to mention hugely increasing population.

It should tell you that the rise in autism began just about ONE generation after the school vaccination program started.

Thiomerosal has been mostly eliminated from vaccines at this point. IF that was the cause, we should see the incidence begin to decline right about now.

Other possible causes of autism include valproic acid, which is found on berries because of the pesticides they use.

And Tylenol, during pregnancy.