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The point of the thread is that actually, the DOJ won't hire anyone unless they are US Citizens so they won't hire refugees or asylum seekers either, even though that is what they are suing SpaceX for.Can an asylee applicant or a “refugee” legally work for Space X (other than maybe as janitors and facility maintenance)?
But the DOJ says they only hire US citizens, which rules out refugees and asylum seekers so they are guilty of the very same thing they are suing SpaceX for.…
The article did not say “asylee applicant”. Both asylee and refugee are defined legal residents in the US and able to work sowhy couldn’t they legally work for SpaceX in any capacity?
It didn’t say that their Asylee applications were granted, either.…
The article did not say “asylee applicant”.
Nobody is challenging the legal residency of asylees, asylee applicants or legal refugees.Both asylee and refugee are defined legal residents in the US
Not where such work is forbidden by law to aliens.and able to work
Because sometimes work is restricted to citizens with proper clearance. And an asylee, an asylee applicant or a legal refuge isn’t a citizen and may not be eligible for such clearance.sowhy couldn’t they legally work for SpaceX in any capacity?
None of them are illegals.You mean the ones the DOJ refuses to hire themselves because the DOJ requires that you have to be a US citizen?
Your OP is dishonest. The article references refugees and asylees, these people are in the US legally.
None of them are illegals.
But unlike private companies, you have to be a U.S. citizen to work for the federal government.
Under Executive Order 11935, only United States citizens and nationals may be appointed to competitive service Federal jobs. In rare cases, agencies may hire certain non-citizens when there are no qualified U.S. citizens available, unless the appointment is prohibited by statute.
And so far, it's only "alleged" that Space-X is breaking any laws. But you and I know that leftist, American regimes can classify illegals as "refugees" as a loophole to allow an invasion of our nation.But the point of the thread is that the DOJ is suing SpaceX for not hiring asylum seekers or refugees, something the DOJ doesn't do because they won't hire anyone unless they are a US citizen.
That's not DOJ, that congress that made that law, and applied it to the federal government.But the DOJ says they only hire US citizens, which means they are also in violation of the very same thing they are suing SpaceX for, meaning they have a two tiered justice system.
Those are laws set by congress. DOJ has no say in the matter.The point of the thread is that actually, the DOJ won't hire anyone unless they are US Citizens so they won't hire refugees or asylum seekers either, even though that is what they are suing SpaceX for.
That's absolutely wrong. The federal government (ie congress) can make different laws for the government, then for private businesses. An example is how DOD is exempt from environmental disclosure.The government by law has to follow the exact same regulations as private companies.
If the US gov can require citizenship for a job, then it has to be legal for any company.
It didn’t say that their Ashlee applications were granted, either.
Nobody is challenging the legal residency of asylees, asylee applicants or legal refugees.
Not where such work is forbidden by law to aliens.
That is true.Because sometimes work is restricted to citizens with proper clearance. And an asylee, an asylee applicant or a legal refuge isn’t a citizen and may not be eligible for such clearance.
Full force that what is illegal for everyone else is permissible for lib loon supporters and organizationsBiden's DOJ is currently suing Elon Musk and SpaceX for not hiring illegals but Elon Musk points out that the DOJ's own hiring policy states that only citizens are eligible to apply to work for them. Yet another example of Biden's and the DOJ's two tiered justice system.
In response to a lawsuit against his private space venture for employment discrimination, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk called out the Department of Justice for its own hiring policies.
In a post on X, formerly known as Twitter, the founder of the space company suggested that the “DOJ needs to sue themselves!” The post cites a tweet by Alex Tabarrok, an economist from George Mason University. In his tweet, Tabarrok points out that the job requirements for the federal Bureau of Prisons specify “U.S. Citizenship is Required.”
Elon Musk Responds to DOJ Lawsuit Against SpaceX's Alleged Hiring Discrimination
In response to a lawsuit against his private space venture for employment discrimination, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk called out the Department of Justice for its own hiring policies.www.yahoo.com
You just can't make this shit up!
But they still can not get a security clearance, so can not be hired even if Musk wanted to.
I suspect they would have multiple of security.The only way to ever maintain any security is at the front gate.
Once inside, then anyone can pick and photograph or read any document, diagram, component configuration, etc.
It’s becoming more and more apparent that this is an apples and oranges argument because different regulations apply to federal agencies than to private ones.Those are laws set by congress. DOJ has no say in the matter.
Just like there is a federal law against felons in the military, except by special waiver.
Federal discrimination laws apply to all equally including federal agenciesIt’s becoming more and more apparent that this is an apples and oranges argument because different regulations apply to federal agencies than to private ones.
There is an executive order requiring federal employees to be US citizens.Federal discrimination laws apply to all equally including federal agencies
LOL. Double standard. The DOJ is suing SpaceX for the very same thing they are doing themselves.None of them are illegals.
But unlike private companies, you have to be a U.S. citizen to work for the federal government.
Under Executive Order 11935, only United States citizens and nationals may be appointed to competitive service Federal jobs. In rare cases, agencies may hire certain non-citizens when there are no qualified U.S. citizens available, unless the appointment is prohibited by statute.
The point is, the DOJ is doing the very same thing themselves that they are suing SpaceX for.That's not DOJ, that congress that made that law, and applied it to the federal government.
Hence the double standard two tiered justice system.Those are laws set by congress. DOJ has no say in the matter.
Just like there is a federal law against felons in the military, except by special waiver.
You know you’re quibbling, right?Asylee is a specific term, it isn’t the same as an applicant:
9 FAM 203.2 WHAT IS A REFUGEE? WHAT IS AN ASYLEE?
fam.state.gov
Asylum applicants can’t legally work except under certain conditions.
I think it is safe to assume this about asylees with a legal right to work and that have certain legal protections from discrimination.
Reread the OP, he referred to them as illegals.
Of course not.
That is true.
Is there any indication of that with SpaceX? SpaceX has hired H-1B applicants for example (Musk himself was a H-1B recipient).
This site gives a more complete account of why SpaceX is being sued and notes this:
Under the INA, employers cannot discriminate against asylees and refugees in the hiring process, unless there is a law, regulation, executive order, or government contract that requires the employer to do so. The IER is charged with enforcing the anti-discriminatory provisions of the INA. The INA generally prohibits discrimination based on citizenship status and national origin when hiring, firing or recruiting.
