Did Trump Just Trample On States' Rights Over The Issue Of AI?

[SaxonJackson]

Apparently, several States had plans to regulate AI within the bounds of their State borders. States' Rights is pretty foundational to the checks and balances handed down by the Founding Fathers. But it appears that Trump is planning on trouncing on lawful powers granted to the various States of the Union.

Perhaps I'm missing a key component of this power grab and expansion of Federal Powers (a dangerous thing, in my opinion).

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-says-he-will-sign-executive-order-this-week-ai-approval-process-2025-12-08/

Now I realize that the Left will use this to attack Trump as if only a Republican would do such a thing. We all know that they would applaud the move if a Democrat did. And I also realize the the Neocon "Right" will applaud this move because Trump is the one doing it.

I'm more interested in hearing from some of the more sensible posters and get a feel for what the America First Right has to say about it.

 

[August West]

State`s Rights died at Appomattox April 9, 1865.

 

[IM2]

The supremacy clause says that states rights are secondary to federal rights.

 

[toobfreak]

Apparently, several States had plans to regulate AI within the bounds of their State borders. States' Rights is pretty foundational to the checks and balances handed down by the Founding Fathers. But it appears that Trump is planning on trouncing on lawful powers granted to the various States of the Union.

Well, when it comes to national intelligence and defense, which is the principle and most important aspect of AI, that is a federal matter, so doesn't stand to reason that the Fed manage it with everyone on the same page instead of pell mell with everyone competing against each other?

 

[kyzr]

Apparently, several States had plans to regulate AI within the bounds of their State borders. States' Rights is pretty foundational to the checks and balances handed down by the Founding Fathers. But it appears that Trump is planning on trouncing on lawful powers granted to the various States of the Union.
Perhaps I'm missing a key component of this power grab and expansion of Federal Powers (a dangerous thing, in my opinion).
Now I realize that the Left will use this to attack Trump as if only a Republican would do such a thing. We all know that they would applaud the move if a Democrat did. And I also realize the the Neocon "Right" will applaud this move because Trump is the one doing it.
I'm more interested in hearing from some of the more sensible posters and get a feel for what the America First Right has to say about it.

I've seen state government agencies, and no state currently has a clue how to regulate AI, since its still being invented.

There are about 1,500 AI data centers currently underway, with about 5,000 estimated to happen in the long term.

I can see states approving/regulating siting requirements, water usage, power usage, and taxes paid, but not the internal workings of them. Each one will probably dedicated to solving a few seriously complex problems. Possibly, the states could require safeguards such that the AI could not become malicious or a danger to the community.

 

[TruthSeeker112125]

Apparently, several States had plans to regulate AI within the bounds of their State borders. States' Rights is pretty foundational to the checks and balances handed down by the Founding Fathers. But it appears that Trump is planning on trouncing on lawful powers granted to the various States of the Union.

Perhaps I'm missing a key component of this power grab and expansion of Federal Powers (a dangerous thing, in my opinion).

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-says-he-will-sign-executive-order-this-week-ai-approval-process-2025-12-08/

Now I realize that the Left will use this to attack Trump as if only a Republican would do such a thing. We all know that they would applaud the move if a Democrat did. And I also realize the the Neocon "Right" will applaud this move because Trump is the one doing it.

I'm more interested in hearing from some of the more sensible posters and get a feel for what the America First Right has to say about it.

Trump , in a very similar fashion as Lincoln, .... Has no desire for State's Rights.

By the Way,..... Slavery was not the initial reason for the Civil War,.... It was State's Rights.

 

[struth]

Apparently, several States had plans to regulate AI within the bounds of their State borders. States' Rights is pretty foundational to the checks and balances handed down by the Founding Fathers. But it appears that Trump is planning on trouncing on lawful powers granted to the various States of the Union.

Perhaps I'm missing a key component of this power grab and expansion of Federal Powers (a dangerous thing, in my opinion).

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-says-he-will-sign-executive-order-this-week-ai-approval-process-2025-12-08/

Now I realize that the Left will use this to attack Trump as if only a Republican would do such a thing. We all know that they would applaud the move if a Democrat did. And I also realize the the Neocon "Right" will applaud this move because Trump is the one doing it.

I'm more interested in hearing from some of the more sensible posters and get a feel for what the America First Right has to say about it.

A state can't violate the US Constitution....they can certainly regulate something within their borders, but that regulation can't violate the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution that gives Congress the power to regulate interstate commerce.

 

[SaxonJackson]

A state can't violate the US Constitution....they can certainly regulate something within their borders, but that regulation can't violate the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution that gives Congress the power to regulate interstate commerce.

The key phrase: "... gives Congress the power."

 

[struth]

The key phrase: "... gives Congress the power."

correct...in other words, the Federal Govt regulates interstate commerce.

the President has the power to enforce it, the EO, like any EO simply gives direction to that enforcement.

 

[Auld Phart]

State`s Rights died at Appomattox April 9, 1865.

States should allow slavery?

 

[SaxonJackson]

correct...in other words, the Federal Govt regulates interstate commerce.

the President has the power to enforce it, the EO, like any EO simply gives direction to that enforcement.

Not all things AI-related has to do with commerce. Some has to do with social engineering and other non-commerce related topics.

 

[struth]

Not all things AI-related has to do with commerce. Some has to do with social engineering and other non-commerce related topics.

Of course it does. Every AI company engages in interstate commerce

 

[evenflow1969]

Apparently, several States had plans to regulate AI within the bounds of their State borders. States' Rights is pretty foundational to the checks and balances handed down by the Founding Fathers. But it appears that Trump is planning on trouncing on lawful powers granted to the various States of the Union.

Perhaps I'm missing a key component of this power grab and expansion of Federal Powers (a dangerous thing, in my opinion).

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-says-he-will-sign-executive-order-this-week-ai-approval-process-2025-12-08/

Now I realize that the Left will use this to attack Trump as if only a Republican would do such a thing. We all know that they would applaud the move if a Democrat did. And I also realize the the Neocon "Right" will applaud this move because Trump is the one doing it.

I'm more interested in hearing from some of the more sensible posters and get a feel for what the America First Right has to say about it.

Not a Trump fan. However I don't think AI can be regulated on a per state level. Internet lines travel through the States you can not stop AI reach into the state. It is not feasible. I can sit in Oklahoma and access AI on a different continent at nearly the speed of light. I guess the states can try. I say good luck

 

[Zincwarrior]

The head of the MAGA Party has expansionist views of the Federal government vs. state's rights.

 

[August West]

States should allow slavery?

No. The right to own human beings in this country died on April 9th 1865. See post #2.

 

[kyzr]

The head of the MAGA Party has expansionist views of the Federal government vs. state's rights.

So you think the courts will side with Trump? Or, you have no clue what you are talking about, its just your TDS?

 

[struth]

No. The right to own human beings in this country died on April 9th 1865. See post #2.

actually the 13th Amendment wasn't passed until December 6 of 1965

 

[Zincwarrior]

So you think the courts will side with Trump? Or, you have no clue what you are talking about, its just your TDS?

I think SCOTUS will side with Trump.

 

[Rogue AI]

Not all things AI-related has to do with commerce. Some has to do with social engineering and other non-commerce related topics.

Conducted by corporations both foreign and domestic. Even if money doesn't change hands everything regarding the internet is international which makes it a federal issue.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Apparently, several States had plans to regulate AI within the bounds of their State borders. States' Rights is pretty foundational to the checks and balances handed down by the Founding Fathers. But it appears that Trump is planning on trouncing on lawful powers granted to the various States of the Union.

Perhaps I'm missing a key component of this power grab and expansion of Federal Powers (a dangerous thing, in my opinion).

https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-says-he-will-sign-executive-order-this-week-ai-approval-process-2025-12-08/

Now I realize that the Left will use this to attack Trump as if only a Republican would do such a thing. We all know that they would applaud the move if a Democrat did. And I also realize the the Neocon "Right" will applaud this move because Trump is the one doing it.

I'm more interested in hearing from some of the more sensible posters and get a feel for what the America First Right has to say about it.

Another excellent example of why to secede away from the federal government. Im not in the camp to want to give power to this AI beast.