Did Charlie Kirk Know What Happened to Him? Final Hand Gesture Suggests So

[ChristisKing]

I remember hearing that it was impossible for his brain to process that he was shot and he was about to die. I believed it too until this video which could possibly be nothing but it could also change everything that we thought that we knew.

 

[OKTexas]

It obvious the guy closest to the camera was moving his arm.

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[ChristisKing]

It obvious the guy closest to the camera was moving his arm.

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Moving his arm, but his fingers?

 

[toobfreak]

Did Charlie Kirk Know What Happened to Him? Final Hand Gesture Suggests So I remember hearing that it was impossible for his brain to process that he was shot and he was about to die. I believed it too until this video which could possibly be nothing but it could also change everything that we thought that we knew.​

Stop it CK, why do you bother with this crap? I've been trying real hard not to go into the forensics of the matter out of respect for the deceased. Your video shows nothing but a still where in one brief instant, a finger was pointing. Why doesn't it show it in real time?

Because there is nothing to see. It was at best, just a fluke.

Here are some facts I've gleaned through extensive study of the forensics of the matter.

1. The bullet arrived about a quarter second before the sound of the gunshot (taking average speed of a 30-06 vs. speed of sound at that elevation), delivering about 2000 ft/lbs of energy on Kirk's neck. So Charlie never knew anything until he was hit, and it is indeed a miracle how the bullet avoided exiting the back of his neck.
2. The bullet entered through the thyroid gland and sternocledomastoid (muscle which holds the head up), injuring the windpipe and esophagus both through ablation of tissue and via hydrodynamic shock.
3. Bullet severed the carotid supplying blood to the left side of brain and damaging thje jugular taking blood from L side of brain, impacting the outer spinal cord along the cervix.
4. Hydrodynamic pressure at point of impact of jugular and carotid would have sent pressure spike of BP to brain followed by total loss of BP and loss of ability to breathe. At same time, outer spinal cord impacted. Likely outcome of this is partial to complete loss of consciousness immediately due to spinal shock, hard transient spike in BP followed by total loss of BP, to within a half-second, supported by his hands beginning to come up in response to gunshot. So Charlie probably lasted long before losing consciousness just enough to know something bad had happened.
5. Within 0-1 seconds of losing consciousness, 1-2 seconds being effectively dead by the time he hit the ground. Instant loss of BP amounts to like having total stroke to the brain. You begin losing about a million brain cells per minute. Soon as brain stem senses loss of BP, it kicks up heart rate trying to compensate, accelerating blood loss.
6. It took them 5 minutes just to get Kirk in a van (there was no ambulance). By that time (and supported by the man over him giving him CPR), Kirk was already dead. He had lost probably half his blood volume at that point, the brain was dead and the heart stopped. It was 15 minutes after the shooting by the time the ER even saw him.
7. The bullet was found near his C4. How it came to stop there is still an unanswered mystery.
8. Aside from jugular and carotid, there were multiple avenues to rapidly lose blood so no chance for ER staff to restore BP to try to keep his brain alive until after perhaps hours of surgery on the ER table, which is just far, far too long for a person to survive going without any blood to the brain.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

I remember hearing that it was impossible for his brain to process that he was shot and he was about to die. I believed it too until this video which could possibly be nothing but it could also change everything that we thought that we knew.

He knew he was going

Progressive Democratic socialists are evil

 

[OKTexas]

Moving his arm, but his fingers?

His fingers were limp.

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[ChristisKing]

He knew he was going

Progressive Democratic socialists are evil

No kidding. I do believe that they already declared civil war on us part 2 but that's a different topic.

Post in thread 'Suspicious Device Found At Utah State University'

Sep 30, 2025

I don't trust the FBI and the government farther than I could throw them. Why would a non-explosive device be found at a Turning Point event?

Did they ever say? I thought they just found a suspicious device and detonated it out of caution.

• ThisIsMe

His fingers were limp.

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How can limp fingers point? Also toobfreak what did I say? Is it such a bad thing that I find comfort in the fact that he could have possibly known that he was going to Heaven?

 

[OKTexas]

No kidding. I do believe that they already declared civil war on us part 2 but that's a different topic.

Post in thread 'Suspicious Device Found At Utah State University'

Sep 30, 2025

I don't trust the FBI and the government farther than I could throw them. Why would a non-explosive device be found at a Turning Point event?

Did they ever say? I thought they just found a suspicious device and detonated it out of caution.

• ThisIsMe

How can limp fingers point? Also toobfreak what did I say? Is it such a bad thing that I find comfort in the fact that he could have possibly known that he was going to Heaven?

Could have been from the manual manipulation of the arm, just give it up, you picked a loser here.

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[ChristisKing]

Could have been from the manual manipulation of the arm, just give it up, you picked a loser here.

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Possibly but as far I'm aware you need muscles to move your fingers to point if somebody isn't doing it for you. Also, for the record if Kirk didn't know I would find that comforting too but I also find him being at peace with the fact where he knew where he was going too. Possibly anyways.

 

[toobfreak]

How can limp fingers point?

They didn't. Just an illusion caught in one frame of the video.

Is it such a bad thing that I find comfort in the fact that he could have possibly known that he was going to Heaven?

You're free to hope or think anything you want, but 60+ years of medical study tells me that Kirk had between zero to almost no warning of anything wrong until he was shot and lost consciousness between instantly to almost instantly. With no blood to the brain (0 - 0.5 seconds), it is like a stroke and the brain loses consciousness immediately.

Based on the medial data and visual record, I give Kirk between 0 - 1 seconds after being shot before he lost consciousness, but between the injury to his throat, neck and spine, there may have been too much trauma during that time for him to be awake, alert or thinking.

 

[Winco]

Possibly but as far I'm aware you need muscles to move your fingers to point if somebody isn't doing it for you. Also, for the record if Kirk didn't know I would find that comforting too but I also find him being at peace with the fact where he knew where he was going too. Possibly anyways.

Sure, and here is a video of TUA pointing 'first down' when he suffered a massive concussion.

Just STOP.

 

[Mack The Finger]

ChristisKing :I'm sure you know what that means !

 

[ChristisKing]

They didn't. Just an illusion caught in one frame of the video.

He sure looked like he was pointing to me though.

You're free to hope or think anything you want, but 60+ years of medical study tells me that Kirk had between zero to almost no warning of anything wrong until he was shot and lost consciousness between instantly to almost instantly. With no blood to the brain (0 - 0.5 seconds), it is like a stroke and the brain loses consciousness immediately.

Based on the medial data and visual record, I give Kirk between 0 - 1 seconds after being shot before he lost consciousness, but between the injury to his throat, neck and spine, there may have been too much trauma during that time for him to be awake, alert or thinking.

Well just for the record as I stated above, him not knowing that he was about to die is good too, but I just found the idea him signaling that he knew that he was going to die but he made peace with his death knowing that he was going to go to Heaven to be with Jesus was also a nice comforting thought. Like he was signaling to us that he was going to be okay because of that.

 

[shockedcanadian]

He was shot without warning. There was no time for a "final gesture".

The suspicious details from this murder for me surrounds the older man who pretended he shot him. Made worse with the fact he had diddler stuff on his cell phone.

The explanation for what he was doing needs to be answered and media doesn't seem too interested. Also, who in the hell walks around with diddler videos?

Tucker Carlson was dead on when he asked out loud, I paraphrase, "why is it that so many who become the enemy of the government is found with diddler videos on their laptops"?

It's a fear I have as well and I've expressed it to my ISP, I don't give a damn. Just last night I woke up in the middle of the night and took the garbage out, there was a car outside my house with a guy inside it and he was viewing his phone. He was out there for perhaps five minutes, still dark outside so I decided to shut down my wifi. Within 45 seconds the car drives off.

With what I have experienced, I will never let my guard down against these criminals and what they would attempt in their rabid desperation. They've been lying about me since I was a kid, that's what unaccountable criminal outfits do but I digress. The bottom line is, when someone is found with diddler videos just out of the blue, unless he has a long history of this stuff by his age, it seems really unusual.

With the lack of transparency for the attempt on Trump in Pennsylvania (which may suggest a foreign source and Trump was made aware and kept it discreet), this makes it all the more suspicious.

Americans just want transparency and accountability. These two premises have served the U.S well and they cannot stop now.

As it were, there are more podcasters from Joe to the PBD crew who are asking more questions about the shooter and the details of the murder. That's the way the world is now, everyone becomes a sleuth and video is everywhere.

Let's be honest, keeping the JFK files closed for 60+ years didn't help develop a faith in the U.S federal system. A system that is universally respected as being honest and transparent even relative to other "democracies". They dropped the ball on that case for sure though I have to believe it is for some good reason.

 

[ChristisKing]

ChristisKing :I'm sure you know what that means !

What? Was he using his middle finger or something and possibly could have been using it towards his assassin? No, I don't think so as Charlie was a whole lot better person than that but it's still funny to think about.

 

[toobfreak]

Possibly but as far I'm aware you need muscles to move your fingers to point if somebody isn't doing it for you.

Lastly, CK, that was Kirk's right hand, the one he had been holding the mic with, and having the fingers curled and the index straight is pretty much the grip he had when shot so he could slide the mic button off and on, so no, his hand was already in that position.

Kirk held the mic until about halfway to the ground.

I'm sorry, but the violence of Kirk's assassination, being hit in the throat with a bullet carrying a foot ton of energy, being hit in the spinal cord, having your windpipe closed off, and losing all blood to the brain, it is probably blessedly near instant lights out.

 

[Mack The Finger]

Was he using his middle finger or something and possibly could have been using it towards his assassin?

You really don't know putting your index finger up means there is only one way to heaven.

 

[ChristisKing]

You really don't know putting your index finger up means there is only one way to heaven.

No I know that but I didn't realize that's what you meant. Do you think the video in question is actually real then?

 

[Mack The Finger]

Do you think the video in question is actually real then?

I have no opinion....it's all in Gods hands.

 

[toobfreak]

He sure looked like he was pointing to me though.

Yeah, well, our brains are wired to see patterns where none exist. Kirk's hand was already sort of in that pointy position when he dropped the mic, and it is caught by the video just for an instant. Believe me, Kirk could not have been laying there on the ground, alive, awake and thinking of making any gestures much less thinking at all. He was gone.

Well just for the record as I stated above, him not knowing that he was about to die is good too, but I just found the idea him signaling that he knew that he was going to die but he made peace with his death knowing that he was going to go to Heaven to be with Jesus was also a nice comforting thought. Like he was signaling to us that he was going to be okay because of that.

Well, as I said weeks ago, I believe Kirk already knew that. He had been warned last March of the extreme danger of these meetings and Kirk refused to hear of it. Not that he didn't believe the danger, just that IMO, I think he trusted God to keep him safe. He wanted to be right there shaking hands with students, not behind a bulletproof shield. I believe he felt that if God wanted him took out, it was for a better, higher cause, and either way served Kirk just as well.