Democrats refuse border protection.

[danielpalos]

I'm simply being factual.

The conversation was about the location of the democratic constituency. And that place is firmly the good old US of A. With more Americans voting for Hillary.

You’re just leaving out minor details to fit your spin..Trump GAVE the drunk whore Mexifornia and Loon York...he knew he had no intentions of governing in favor of their filthy interests. I’d venture a guess that no Republican will ever win the popular vote again in a national election. I’ll also bet that no Republican really gives two *****...Mexifornia has been conceded to Mexico and Loon York conceded to freaks and wackos...those filthy shitholes aren’t coming back.

You're missing one point......Hillary pulled support from EVERY voting district in the country. Without exception.

Demonstrating elegantly where the democratic constituents is: The good old US of A.

Look, it’s no secret that we have barely legal beaners, lowlife pet humans, degenerates and dopeheads, fudge packers, Feminazis and men in dresses spread out throughout the country...ofcouse Mexicratic candidates will garner some support across the nation.

65,000,000 of them?

Um, wow.

Sure...that sounds about right...you didn’t know we have a population of around 340 million plus wetbacks?
Maybe you haven’t noticed...the quality of American has gone to shit. That’s good news for the Mexicratic Party...huh?

our alleged wars on crime, drugs, and terror; which the right wing refuses to pay for with appropriate tax rates, is what is eroding purchasing power for the Poor.

 

[Syriusly]

pelosi_democrats_are_not_going_to_fund_trumps_immoral_border_wall.html

They will never stop illegals from coming into America it is against their policy

Poor little Trumpkin- thinking that a great big 'beautiful' wall is the only way to have 'border protection.

Democrats- like Republicans- have supported more and more border protection since 9/11.

We just don't think American tax payers should have to pay for Trump's ineffective wall.

Wait- wasn't Mexico supposed to be paying for the wall- why does Trump need $5,000,000,000 of tax money when Mexico is going to pay for the wall?

LOL

The dems don't want it because they'll lose their free and cheap labor

LOL are you really that stupid? Oh wait you are a Trumpkin- so of course you are!

You really think that only Democrats hire illegals? Hell Trump himself has hired illegals for his properties. Texas has millions of illegals working there- more than the few Democrats in Texas could even hire.

I admit- I still am amazed at times of the partisan ignorance of the gullible Trumpkins.

Republicans and Democrat business's for decades have taken advantage of illegal labor- and for decades both the Republican and Democratic parties have used the issue- like Trump is now- to fire up their base.

I am all for a real solution- not a 'great big beautiful wall'

I never said they were the only ones. I said they didnt want to lose their free labor.

What 'free labor'?

Poor deluded little Trumpkin.

 

[Syriusly]

pelosi_democrats_are_not_going_to_fund_trumps_immoral_border_wall.html

They will never stop illegals from coming into America it is against their policy

Trump will win 57 states in 2020. Dems will be down to 4 Senators and maybe 20 Congresspeople

With the current Republican gerrymandering and election fraud- you probably will figure out some way for Trump to get the electoral votes from 57 states.

 

[bripat9643]

That's the electoral college for you.

Is there no part of the constitution you dont despise?

They despise the Bill of Rights most of all. Imagine what a hell this country will become once they take over.

 

[Syriusly]

That's the electoral college for you.

Is there no part of the constitution you dont despise?

They despise the Bill of Rights most of all. Imagine what a hell this country will become once they take over.

LOL poor little Trumpkin- imagining everyone despises the Constitution as much as you do.

 

[Skylar]

That's the electoral college for you.

Is there no part of the constitution you dont despise?

They despise the Bill of Rights most of all. Imagine what a hell this country will become once they take over.

The actual bill of rights.......or your imaginary bill of rights. Like when you imagined that lying to federal investigators was making someone violate their 5th amendment protections?

Or when you asserted that merely being asked questions by investigators violated the 5th amendment.

 

[froggy]

Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more
Robert Reich

The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in “swing” suburbs.
Democrats have occupied the White House for 16 of the last 24 years, and for four of those years had control of both houses of Congress. But in that time they failed to reverse the decline in working-class wages and economic security. Both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama ardently pushed for free trade agreements without providing millions of blue-collar workers who thereby lost their jobs means of getting new ones that paid at least as well.

They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class – failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes. Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22% of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to less than 12% today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy’s gains.

Bill Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify – with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated. The unsurprising result of this combination – more trade, declining unionization and more industry concentration – has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. This created an opening for Donald Trump’s authoritarian demagoguery, and his presidency.

Now Americans have rebelled by supporting someone who wants to fortify America against foreigners as well as foreign-made goods. The power structure understandably fears that Trump’s isolationism will stymie economic growth. But most Americans couldn’t care less about growth because for years they have received few of its benefits, while suffering most of its burdens in the forms of lost jobs and lower wages.

The power structure is shocked by the outcome of the 2016 election because it has cut itself off from the lives of most Americans. Perhaps it also doesn’t wish to understand, because that would mean acknowledging its role in enabling the presidency of Donald Trump.

 

[bripat9643]

That's the electoral college for you.

Is there no part of the constitution you dont despise?

They despise the Bill of Rights most of all. Imagine what a hell this country will become once they take over.

LOL poor little Trumpkin- imagining everyone despises the Constitution as much as you do.

ROFL! I love it when leftwingers pretend they are patriotic Americans who love this country. Every day they tells how much they hate it. The tell us how anyone who loves this country is a "white nationalist," a racist, sexist, homophobic pig.

 

[bripat9643]

That's the electoral college for you.

Is there no part of the constitution you dont despise?

They despise the Bill of Rights most of all. Imagine what a hell this country will become once they take over.

The actual bill of rights.......or your imaginary bill of rights. Like when you imagined that lying to federal investigators was making someone violate their 5th amendment protections?

Or when you asserted that merely being asked questions by investigators violated the 5th amendment.

Perhaps when you can tell the truth about what your critics say someone may take your fat homosexual propaganda seriously . . . . . . . . . . . . nah!

 

[DOTR]

Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more
Robert Reich
The power structure is shocked by the outcome of the 2016 election because it has cut itself off from the lives of most Americans. Perhaps it also doesn’t wish to understand, because that would mean acknowledging its role in enabling the presidency of Donald Trump.

Yeah they were shocked. Still are. To Democrats Americans are strange, backwards, foreign creatures who "cling to guns and religion". And the wealthy elites who lost in 2016 are so embarrassed in front of their fellow globalists. Especially the European ones.
But they are all facing this backlash. Even in France and Germany it is all the global corporations can do to keep a lid on dissent. But even if they seem to be faring no better than Americans at overthrowing their ruling class its OK. Alliances are being made. Parties formed and gaining members.
But most of all, the shock of their 2016 defeat has flushed the elites out into the open. They dont even pretend in the media or the corporate boardroom to be unbiased any longer. What yesterday they called paranoid conspiracy they dont even bother to hide today. Its a desperation gambit. They pull out all emergency stops and they assume that after they put their own back in power they can just pretend it never happened. Who is to say different?

"Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past," They may not want Americans reading Orwell but they themselves know his warnings about leftists were accurate.They believe they have plenty of time to fix their loss to Americans and then get back to denying they played a side. And in any case they feel they have no choice. Still reeling from the shock.

But never forget. As Reich says..this happened because Americans are tired of elites who look down on them. And the elites were so cut off they didnt see it coming.

 

[danielpalos]

Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more
Robert Reich

The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in “swing” suburbs.
Democrats have occupied the White House for 16 of the last 24 years, and for four of those years had control of both houses of Congress. But in that time they failed to reverse the decline in working-class wages and economic security. Both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama ardently pushed for free trade agreements without providing millions of blue-collar workers who thereby lost their jobs means of getting new ones that paid at least as well.

They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class – failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes. Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22% of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to less than 12% today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy’s gains.

Bill Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify – with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated. The unsurprising result of this combination – more trade, declining unionization and more industry concentration – has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. This created an opening for Donald Trump’s authoritarian demagoguery, and his presidency.

Now Americans have rebelled by supporting someone who wants to fortify America against foreigners as well as foreign-made goods. The power structure understandably fears that Trump’s isolationism will stymie economic growth. But most Americans couldn’t care less about growth because for years they have received few of its benefits, while suffering most of its burdens in the forms of lost jobs and lower wages.

The power structure is shocked by the outcome of the 2016 election because it has cut itself off from the lives of most Americans. Perhaps it also doesn’t wish to understand, because that would mean acknowledging its role in enabling the presidency of Donald Trump.

the democrats were working on healthcare reform. the right wing had nothing but repeal. there was not much left to try for other social goals.

 

[beagle9]

Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more
Robert Reich

The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in “swing” suburbs.
Democrats have occupied the White House for 16 of the last 24 years, and for four of those years had control of both houses of Congress. But in that time they failed to reverse the decline in working-class wages and economic security. Both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama ardently pushed for free trade agreements without providing millions of blue-collar workers who thereby lost their jobs means of getting new ones that paid at least as well.

They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class – failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes. Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22% of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to less than 12% today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy’s gains.

Bill Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify – with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated. The unsurprising result of this combination – more trade, declining unionization and more industry concentration – has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. This created an opening for Donald Trump’s authoritarian demagoguery, and his presidency.

Now Americans have rebelled by supporting someone who wants to fortify America against foreigners as well as foreign-made goods. The power structure understandably fears that Trump’s isolationism will stymie economic growth. But most Americans couldn’t care less about growth because for years they have received few of its benefits, while suffering most of its burdens in the forms of lost jobs and lower wages.

The power structure is shocked by the outcome of the 2016 election because it has cut itself off from the lives of most Americans. Perhaps it also doesn’t wish to understand, because that would mean acknowledging its role in enabling the presidency of Donald Trump.

the democrats were working on healthcare reform. the right wing had nothing but repeal. there was not much left to try for other social goals.

Repeals because the Demon-crat's blew it and they knew it.

 

[danielpalos]

Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more
Robert Reich

The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in “swing” suburbs.
Democrats have occupied the White House for 16 of the last 24 years, and for four of those years had control of both houses of Congress. But in that time they failed to reverse the decline in working-class wages and economic security. Both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama ardently pushed for free trade agreements without providing millions of blue-collar workers who thereby lost their jobs means of getting new ones that paid at least as well.

They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class – failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes. Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22% of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to less than 12% today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy’s gains.

Bill Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify – with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated. The unsurprising result of this combination – more trade, declining unionization and more industry concentration – has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. This created an opening for Donald Trump’s authoritarian demagoguery, and his presidency.

Now Americans have rebelled by supporting someone who wants to fortify America against foreigners as well as foreign-made goods. The power structure understandably fears that Trump’s isolationism will stymie economic growth. But most Americans couldn’t care less about growth because for years they have received few of its benefits, while suffering most of its burdens in the forms of lost jobs and lower wages.

The power structure is shocked by the outcome of the 2016 election because it has cut itself off from the lives of most Americans. Perhaps it also doesn’t wish to understand, because that would mean acknowledging its role in enabling the presidency of Donald Trump.

the democrats were working on healthcare reform. the right wing had nothing but repeal. there was not much left to try for other social goals.

Repeals because the Demon-crat's blew it and they knew it.

they had health care reform as a platform. the right wing had nothing but repeal. they should always have, better solutions at lower cost.

 

[beagle9]

Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more
Robert Reich

The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in “swing” suburbs.
Democrats have occupied the White House for 16 of the last 24 years, and for four of those years had control of both houses of Congress. But in that time they failed to reverse the decline in working-class wages and economic security. Both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama ardently pushed for free trade agreements without providing millions of blue-collar workers who thereby lost their jobs means of getting new ones that paid at least as well.

They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class – failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes. Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22% of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to less than 12% today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy’s gains.

Bill Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify – with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated. The unsurprising result of this combination – more trade, declining unionization and more industry concentration – has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. This created an opening for Donald Trump’s authoritarian demagoguery, and his presidency.

Now Americans have rebelled by supporting someone who wants to fortify America against foreigners as well as foreign-made goods. The power structure understandably fears that Trump’s isolationism will stymie economic growth. But most Americans couldn’t care less about growth because for years they have received few of its benefits, while suffering most of its burdens in the forms of lost jobs and lower wages.

The power structure is shocked by the outcome of the 2016 election because it has cut itself off from the lives of most Americans. Perhaps it also doesn’t wish to understand, because that would mean acknowledging its role in enabling the presidency of Donald Trump.

the democrats were working on healthcare reform. the right wing had nothing but repeal. there was not much left to try for other social goals.

Repeals because the Demon-crat's blew it and they knew it.

they had health care reform as a platform. the right wing had nothing but repeal. they should always have, better solutions at lower cost.

True, but for some reason the republican base didn't see healthcare reform as being the most important issue at the time for the nation, but I garantee you that they won't get caught on the defense by Demon-crat's anymore in the future, so let's see where it all goes from here, and thanks to those who brought it to the forefront no matter who they were at the time not so long ago in the past is my thoughts.

Everyone should be entitled to healthcare services as human beings in every country they live in and/or work in is my opinion. Might not be a realistic one, but it is a Godly one.

No way would I take a position in life that endangers a human beings life by toying with the idea that a person must pay up front before receiving life saving preventive or reactive healthcare services within any country lived in and/or worked in (including this one). But we aren't responsible for the world, so let's at least get it right here.

We just need a system that works for everyone rich or poor, and not one that supports discrimination due to ones non-ability to pay at the door when needed. However we should always expect the citizens to play an important part in being responsible citizens themselves for it all to work.

Emergency rooms aren't the answer, because the horror stories are long on that issue or thinking as well.

Haven't heard of anyone dying while waiting in an emergency room lately have y'all ?? Hmmm, wonder why that stopped ?? Could it be uhhhh that the MSM isn't covering those stories anymore or something started working finally ???

If have the right system in place, then the discriminatory problems will go away, and all will be happy and healthy is the hopes of everyone. That's purdy much it folks.

Sorry, not sure how this topic went from border protection to healthcare. Back on topic.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

pelosi_democrats_are_not_going_to_fund_trumps_immoral_border_wall.html

They will never stop illegals from coming into America it is against their policy

Their policy is population replacement. Letting illegals in is a big part of the plan.

'Replacement'? And where, in your conspiracy, would the current population go?

Do you understand the words demographic shift better? It's the same thing. Bred out of existence is one method. Outright murder is another.

Who will be 'bred out of existence'....specifically.

And murdered....by whom?

Americans by Mexicans

Wingers believe the dumbest things.

 

[danielpalos]

Democrats once represented the working class. Not any more
Robert Reich

The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in “swing” suburbs.
Democrats have occupied the White House for 16 of the last 24 years, and for four of those years had control of both houses of Congress. But in that time they failed to reverse the decline in working-class wages and economic security. Both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama ardently pushed for free trade agreements without providing millions of blue-collar workers who thereby lost their jobs means of getting new ones that paid at least as well.

They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class – failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes. Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22% of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to less than 12% today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy’s gains.

Bill Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify – with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated. The unsurprising result of this combination – more trade, declining unionization and more industry concentration – has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. This created an opening for Donald Trump’s authoritarian demagoguery, and his presidency.

Now Americans have rebelled by supporting someone who wants to fortify America against foreigners as well as foreign-made goods. The power structure understandably fears that Trump’s isolationism will stymie economic growth. But most Americans couldn’t care less about growth because for years they have received few of its benefits, while suffering most of its burdens in the forms of lost jobs and lower wages.

The power structure is shocked by the outcome of the 2016 election because it has cut itself off from the lives of most Americans. Perhaps it also doesn’t wish to understand, because that would mean acknowledging its role in enabling the presidency of Donald Trump.

the democrats were working on healthcare reform. the right wing had nothing but repeal. there was not much left to try for other social goals.

Repeals because the Demon-crat's blew it and they knew it.

they had health care reform as a platform. the right wing had nothing but repeal. they should always have, better solutions at lower cost.

True, but for some reason the republican base didn't see healthcare reform as being the most important issue at the time for the nation, but I garantee you that they won't get caught on the defense by Demon-crat's anymore in the future, so let's see where it all goes from here, and thanks to those who brought it to the forefront no matter who they were at the time not so long ago in the past is my thoughts.

Everyone should be entitled to healthcare services as human beings in every country they live in and/or work in is my opinion. Might not be a realistic one, but it is a Godly one.

No way would I take a position in life that endangers a human beings life by toying with the idea that a person must pay up front before receiving life saving preventive or reactive healthcare services within any country lived in and/or worked in (including this one). But we aren't responsible for the world, so let's at least get it right here.

We just need a system that works for everyone rich or poor, and not one that supports discrimination due to ones non-ability to pay at the door when needed. However we should always expect the citizens to play an important part in being responsible citizens themselves for it all to work.

Emergency rooms aren't the answer, because the horror stories are long on that issue or thinking as well.

Haven't heard of anyone dying while waiting in an emergency room lately have y'all ?? Hmmm, wonder why that stopped ?? Could it be uhhhh that the MSM isn't covering those stories anymore or something started working finally ???

If have the right system in place, then the discriminatory problems will go away, and all will be happy and healthy is the hopes of everyone. That's purdy much it folks.

Sorry, not sure how this topic went from border protection to healthcare. Back on topic.

it was about the democrats having platforms that address a general welfare issue; instead of nothing but repeal, and tax cut economics which merely helps the richest get richer faster and putting it on the Peoples' Debt.

 

[iceberg]

They'd get farther by restricting welfare for illegals and immigrants.

take away the reasons to be here and they won't.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Their policy is population replacement. Letting illegals in is a big part of the plan.

'Replacement'? And where, in your conspiracy, would the current population go?

Do you understand the words demographic shift better? It's the same thing. Bred out of existence is one method. Outright murder is another.

Who will be 'bred out of existence'....specifically.

And murdered....by whom?

Americans by Mexicans

Wingers believe the dumbest things.

Pull your head from your ass and look to Mexifornia where it’s happening daily. Don’t be scared to acknowledge the truth bud...grab your nuts once.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

'Replacement'? And where, in your conspiracy, would the current population go?

Do you understand the words demographic shift better? It's the same thing. Bred out of existence is one method. Outright murder is another.

Who will be 'bred out of existence'....specifically.

And murdered....by whom?

Americans by Mexicans

Wingers believe the dumbest things.

Pull your head from your ass and look to Mexifornia where it’s happening daily. Don’t be scared to acknowledge the truth bud...grab your nuts once.

You know, you could always move, you miserable *****. Maybe we won't have to hear you crying like a girl with a skinned knee about 'Mexifornia' on the daily. Just a thought. You're juvenile, bud.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Do you understand the words demographic shift better? It's the same thing. Bred out of existence is one method. Outright murder is another.

Who will be 'bred out of existence'....specifically.

And murdered....by whom?

Americans by Mexicans

Wingers believe the dumbest things.

Pull your head from your ass and look to Mexifornia where it’s happening daily. Don’t be scared to acknowledge the truth bud...grab your nuts once.

You know, you could always move, you miserable *****. Maybe we won't have to hear you crying like a girl with a skinned knee about 'Mexifornia' on the daily. Just a thought. You're juvenile, bud.

Don’t worry about me *******...you need to spend your time worried about you and all your cockroach buddies...the hammer is coming down on you filthy ***** and you know it...hahaha.