Democrats...please explain how you think you can “have it all”?

[eddiew37]

WHERE IS FDR when we need him? ....feeling blue missing you...

Him and trump should change places

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump stiffs us again
Wanna bet what Trump is about to disclose about infrastructure is that he isn't going to pay for it? Wanna bet he dumps it on the States? What a deal! The States will have to raise taxes as he stiffs the nation once again just like he did on his signature 'wall' and gins up another arms race to boot.

The best thing in the world would be for states to handle more of their problems. Decrease federal taxes and increase state taxes, that way it takes the power away from the federal government and gives that power to the states where representatives can be better controlled.

The problem with our tax structure now is that all money goes to the feds, and they decide how the will give it back. Then Congress and Senate critters start rubbing each others backs making deals and we end up wasting a ton of money on pork projects.

If that's what Trump does, good thinking Mr. President.

 

[usmbguest5318]

You sound like a lawyer

OP-er, I suspect you don't much care for it when folks, rather than being courteous enough to present you with neutrally phrased questions that request clarification(s), take it upon themselves to frame, oversimplify, extrapolate ad absurdum, mis-contextualize, and/or employ other means of equivocation to bend what you say into something you didn't have in mind or say.....


OP-er, are you truly not aware that the nature of your perceptions about what Democrats have officially asserted they "want" and what Democrats have officially asserted they indeed "want" just aren't the same things? For some strange reason, you seem to have heard someone whom you believe to be a Democrat state they think/want that "such and such" be done, and hearing that person say such, you in turn infer that that single individual's (or group's) attestations are the official positions of the Democratic party. Well, unless the person whom you heard utter "whatever" is the Chairman of the DNC, or someone speaking formally on his behalf, the remarks you heard are merely that person's wishes and wants and some quantity of others may or may not agree with that person, but none of their doing so makes the given position be that of Democrats in the "broad brush" way you've presented the notions in your OP.....

You want free health care...right?
You want free college...right?
You want ‘welfare’ increased...right?
You want higher minimum wage...right?
You want more spent on ‘science’...right?
AND you want to extend all of what you want to 12-50 million illegal aliens...right?

Soooo, how do you think this all happens and why do you think our most productive, positive contributors should happily embrace the idea of funding it all?

....To wit, would you please provide the credible documentation that specifies that the things you assert Democrats want are in fact things the Democrats have asserted that they want.

You want free health care...right?

In what context(s)? Even the ACA didn't propose free healthcare in the unqualified way your statement above does.

You want free college...right?

AFAIK, no. I am aware that some Democrats have advocated for free college, the Democratic 2016 platform did not attest to "wanting free college," which is not the same thing as aiming to make community college free, the latter being part of the Democrats' 2016 platform.

You want ‘welfare’ increased...right?

I'm not going to address this question you posed because it's too vague and too ambiguous. If you can add the following elements of precision to your question, I might be able to give you a credible answer.

• What do you mean by "increase?"
  • Lower the qualification requirements one must meet to receive public assistance, thereby increasing the quantity of people who are eligible to receive it?
  • Increase the maximum sum of assistance that may be provided under any given program?
  • Increase the actual sum of assistance given to individuals/families meeting certain criteria?
  • Increase the nature of assistance that may be given to include goods/services that are not currently in the "bundle" of "stuff" qualifying individuals may receive?
• Quantify, please, the nature and extent to which you perceive Democrats want to increase "welfare."
  • What do you consider to be welfare? Feel free, so long as you are precise, to enumerate specific programs or precisely describe specific genres of resource distributions, or precisely describe the beneficiaries and benefactors of welfare such that there's no overlap between them and there's no mistaking what individuals and entities fall into either class.

You want higher minimum wage...right?

Democrats probably do want to see the federal minimum wage increased to $15/hour.

You want more spent on ‘science’...right?

More than what? I'm not aware that Democrats expressly have articulated a "want" for more being spent on science. I am aware that Democrats have decried the reductions in spending that the current Administration has effected.

AND you want to extend all of what you want to 12-50 million illegal aliens...right?

I have not ever seen anything indicating that Democrats want to extend all of anything n the "broad brush" way you've described it to the 11M illegal aliens who are in the U.S.​

So, OP-er, if you can add some specificity to your questions so that they can actually be answered directly with a "yes" or "no" that can be objectively shown to be either accurate or inaccurate, well, then you might find you get some substantive conversation going.....

A lot of talking and saying nothing.

A lot of talking and saying nothing.

How astute of you to notice that questions and requests are not declarations.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump stiffs us again
Wanna bet what Trump is about to disclose about infrastructure is that he isn't going to pay for it? Wanna bet he dumps it on the States? What a deal! The States will have to raise taxes as he stiffs the nation once again just like he did on his signature 'wall' and gins up another arms race to boot.

The best thing in the world would be for states to handle more of their problems. Decrease federal taxes and increase state taxes, that way it takes the power away from the federal government and gives that power to the states where representatives can be better controlled.

The problem with our tax structure now is that all money goes to the feds, and they decide how the will give it back. Then Congress and Senate critters start rubbing each others backs making deals and we end up wasting a ton of money on pork projects.

If that's what Trump does, good thinking Mr. President.

Most infrastructure spending is currently done at the state and local level

The problem is that the first thing cash starved states cut is infrastructure investments. Seems they have these things I like to call "Republicans" that insist on slashing taxes without looking at the overall impact

 

[eddiew37]

Trump stiffs us again
Wanna bet what Trump is about to disclose about infrastructure is that he isn't going to pay for it? Wanna bet he dumps it on the States? What a deal! The States will have to raise taxes as he stiffs the nation once again just like he did on his signature 'wall' and gins up another arms race to boot.

The best thing in the world would be for states to handle more of their problems. Decrease federal taxes and increase state taxes, that way it takes the power away from the federal government and gives that power to the states where representatives can be better controlled.

The problem with our tax structure now is that all money goes to the feds, and they decide how the will give it back. Then Congress and Senate critters start rubbing each others backs making deals and we end up wasting a ton of money on pork projects.

If that's what Trump does, good thinking Mr. President.

Being from NY I'd love to see more of my tax money go into my states coffers rather than get sidetracked into red states I'd just like to look carefully at any deal Trump proposes because his end game IMHO is to screw blue states

 

[BrokeLoser]

Trump stiffs us again
Wanna bet what Trump is about to disclose about infrastructure is that he isn't going to pay for it? Wanna bet he dumps it on the States? What a deal! The States will have to raise taxes as he stiffs the nation once again just like he did on his signature 'wall' and gins up another arms race to boot.

The best thing in the world would be for states to handle more of their problems. Decrease federal taxes and increase state taxes, that way it takes the power away from the federal government and gives that power to the states where representatives can be better controlled.

The problem with our tax structure now is that all money goes to the feds, and they decide how the will give it back. Then Congress and Senate critters start rubbing each others backs making deals and we end up wasting a ton of money on pork projects.

If that's what Trump does, good thinking Mr. President.

Being from NY I'd love to see more of my tax money go into my states coffers rather than get sidetracked into red states I'd just like to look carefully at any deal Trump proposes because his end game IMHO is to screw blue states

I’m thinking King Onegro and blue states were fucking themselves long before Donny T came to town.

9 Most Bankrupt States In America: Is Yours On The List?

Public DomainA new report shows that the California Public Employees Retirement System (CalPERS) received less than one percent on its investment, putting the country's biggest pension fund at a stunning $100 billion shortfall.
The key takeaway from the Mercatus Center's list is that the vast majority of the states in poor fiscal health are blue states, demonstrating yet again how lavish government spending is unsustainable and economically unviable in the long run. The dismal return on CalPERS's investments are particularly reflective of that common sense economic reality.

Not surprisingly, California is ranked among the top nine in the states with the worst fiscal condition by the Mercatus Center, as of June 1. Here are each of the states that made the top nine in their rankings:

1. Connecticut:

• $20.88 billion in total debt.
• $102.84 billion in unfunded liabilities and other retirement benefits.
• $505 in deficit per capita.

2. Massachusetts:

• $26.73 billion in total debt.
• $190.83 billion in in unfunded liabilities and other retirement benefits.
• $342 in deficit per capita.

3. New Jersey:

• $41.84 billion in total debt.
• $255.2 billion in unfunded pension liabilities and other retirement benefits.
• $396 in deficit per capita.

4. Illinois:

• $35.5 billion in total debt.
• $332.54 billion in unfunded pension liabilities and other retirement benefits.
• $40 in deficit per capita.

5. Kentucky:

• $8.23 billion in total debt.
• $82.68 billion in unfunded liabilities and other retirement benefits.
• $100 in deficit per capita.

6. Hawaii:

• $7.78 billion in total debt.
• $39.92 billion in unfunded liabilities and other retirement benefits.
• $83 in deficit per capita.

7. California:

• $118.7 billion in total debt.
• $785.72 billion in unfunded liabilities and other retirement benefits.
• $250 in surplus per capita.

8. Maine:

• $1.2 billion in total debt.
• $15.2 billion in unfunded liabilities and other retirement benefits.
• $20 in deficit per capita.

9. New York:

• $58.32 billion in total debt.
• $349.81 billion in unfunded liabilities and other retirement benefits.
• $125 in surplus per capita.

 

[jc456]

You want free health care...right?
You want free college...right?
You want ‘welfare’ increased...right?
You want higher minimum wage...right?
You want more spent on ‘science’...right?
AND you want to extend all of what you want to 12-50 million illegal aliens...right?

Soooo, how do you think this all happens and why do you think our most productive, positive contributors should happily embrace the idea of funding it all?

Because they want to be like Venezuela. Democrat paradise. Never mind most of them will be digging through trash cans to eat, at least someone else didn't get to keep their tax deductions. They got more so it was unfair. Right up until they found out fair equals nobody has anything and never will.

Demorat policy is poverty for everyone.

dude, these leftist love socialism failed countries all over the globe. They are now in love with Kim Jung Who and think NK is the greatest fking country on the globe. Listen to em all the last three days. Folks, you just can't make up how much these fks truly hate our country.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump stiffs us again
Wanna bet what Trump is about to disclose about infrastructure is that he isn't going to pay for it? Wanna bet he dumps it on the States? What a deal! The States will have to raise taxes as he stiffs the nation once again just like he did on his signature 'wall' and gins up another arms race to boot.

Either that or he will sell our infrastructure to the private sector

And the private sector will create jobs.

Who's gonna work those specialized jobs ?? Unemployment is at all time lows Only ones left are dump red necks ,,,white trash

The Blue States have the populations so they need more infrastructure. Texas and Fla being the two larger red states, and Fla can swing, but I think Trump's got that locked up for 20.

The problem is that the states with large populations can afford Trump's infrastructure plan

The lowly populated (Red) States tend to be very large and can't afford the infrastructure without federal aid

 

[Brain357]

This is like repubs thinking they can have tax cuts and lower deficits.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

 

[eddiew37]

Trump stiffs us again
Wanna bet what Trump is about to disclose about infrastructure is that he isn't going to pay for it? Wanna bet he dumps it on the States? What a deal! The States will have to raise taxes as he stiffs the nation once again just like he did on his signature 'wall' and gins up another arms race to boot.

Either that or he will sell our infrastructure to the private sector

And the private sector will create jobs.

Who's gonna work those specialized jobs ?? Unemployment is at all time lows Only ones left are dump red necks ,,,white trash

The Blue States have the populations so they need more infrastructure. Texas and Fla being the two larger red states, and Fla can swing, but I think Trump's got that locked up for 20.

The problem is that the states with large populations can afford Trump's infrastructure plan

The lowly populated (Red) States tend to be very large and can't afford the infrastructure without federal aid

blue states better be getting dollar for dollar with those fn idiot states

 

[bendog]

Trump stiffs us again
Wanna bet what Trump is about to disclose about infrastructure is that he isn't going to pay for it? Wanna bet he dumps it on the States? What a deal! The States will have to raise taxes as he stiffs the nation once again just like he did on his signature 'wall' and gins up another arms race to boot.

Either that or he will sell our infrastructure to the private sector

And the private sector will create jobs.

Who's gonna work those specialized jobs ?? Unemployment is at all time lows Only ones left are dump red necks ,,,white trash

The Blue States have the populations so they need more infrastructure. Texas and Fla being the two larger red states, and Fla can swing, but I think Trump's got that locked up for 20.

The problem is that the states with large populations can afford Trump's infrastructure plan

The lowly populated (Red) States tend to be very large and can't afford the infrastructure without federal aid

I'm not sure NY can afford it. I look at the property values and taxes there, and it's a no go for me. And they did vote to repair their subway.

Rural states, like mine, suffer from inadequate highway maintenance, but that's more reflection on the unpopularity of the gas tax keeping up with inflation.

Trump's infrastructure plan isn't really going anywhere. The original idea was to use the revenue that lowering the corp tax rate would bring in with offshored profits, but the gop spent that with the tax cut that still adds two trillion in deficits in two years.

 

[bendog]

Either that or he will sell our infrastructure to the private sector

And the private sector will create jobs.

Who's gonna work those specialized jobs ?? Unemployment is at all time lows Only ones left are dump red necks ,,,white trash

The Blue States have the populations so they need more infrastructure. Texas and Fla being the two larger red states, and Fla can swing, but I think Trump's got that locked up for 20.

The problem is that the states with large populations can afford Trump's infrastructure plan

The lowly populated (Red) States tend to be very large and can't afford the infrastructure without federal aid

blue states better be getting dollar for dollar with those fn idiot states

hey now, I've said we're grateful for your welfare payments. Be nice. (-:

 

[sartre play]

No one can have it all.