Decent Denver man being ripped from his wife & kids over archaic immigration policy

Funny but I don't think Jesus Christ would approve of separating Husbands from wives and chldren or mothers from their children and families.

No one's separating families. Do you know Jesus?...then you know he tasked each of us to help provide for others in need - to reach into our pockets, to give generously. I can't quite put my finger on the verse where he gives you permission to reach into your neighbors pocket to 'give' generously.

BULLSHIT--ripping familes apart was never designed or would have been approved by Jesus Christ. Adolph Hitler was pretty good at it though.

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We rip families apart hundreds of times a day. Fathers, mothers, or both are sentenced to prison for crimes they committed. Having children is not a get out of jail free card.
 
Well he did, now are you prepared to pay Welfare benefits for his American born kids, and this woman's 4 American kids up until their of age, and raise them without a father and a mother? They're going to make great gang members without parents.


Why would they be without parents? The parents should take the kids with them, once the kids are on their own as citizens they are welcome to return.


If the parents wish to abandon their kids on the streets, then ya I'm fine with CPS taking them in and finding them foster homes or adoption.


I also support a Constitutional amendment that clarifies the 14th amendment clause of "within its jurisdiction" does not apply for birth right citizenship for those in the country illegally.


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I like how the OP unwittingly showed that it was their Hopey Changey Messiah who detained the man in 2014. But it's somehow all Trump's fault. Funny loony stuff. :cuckoo:
 
He started a business, paid taxes, contributed to his community, and achieve what used to be known as the American Dream?!

Uh oh! Bad HOMBRE!!! :eek:

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Appeal to emotion.....

What about appealing to emotion on all those people denied legal immigration because we can't raise the limits due to the current influx of illegals?


It's been the Republican party that has blocked any common sense immigration reform for 10 to 15 years now.

Marco Rubio--a Republican had a plan 4 years ago that they refused to even listen too. So we must assume that this is the 2.0 extension to the Republican Party's Family values platform. Their Christian values at work again--LOL Split em up and move em out.

I wonder how much this is going to cost the taxpayers in welfare and other social services programs?

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"Common sense immigration reform" is a leftwing euphemism meaning "amnesty." The American people blocked that. They are overwhelmingly opposed to it.


Again enjoy your extreme stance--which is no immigration reform--while you're paying out for these American born kids. You can raise them on the taxpayer dollar.

Amnesty will only lead to more illegal immigration. We are already raising them on the taxpayer dollar.
 
Funny but I don't think Jesus Christ would approve of separating Husbands from wives and chldren or mothers from their children and families.

No one's separating families. Do you know Jesus?...then you know he tasked each of us to help provide for others in need - to reach into our pockets, to give generously. I can't quite put my finger on the verse where he gives you permission to reach into your neighbors pocket to 'give' generously.

BULLSHIT--ripping familes apart was never designed or would have been approved by Jesus Christ. Adolph Hitler was pretty good at it though.

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Nope. Hitler sent them to the gas chamber together as a family.
 
“Arturo has been a valued member of our community for nearly two decades,” Bennet said in a written statement. “As a business owner, he has contributed to our economy and has always worked hard to support his family. He should not be a priority for deportation. This is yet another example of this Administration’s misguided immigration policies that do not align with our national priorities and values.”


He should have never been allowed to open a business or found a job unless he was a legal resident.


If he is employed as a legal resident the employer should be responsible for tracking when legal status expires and terminating employment on that date. If a legal resident and applying for a business license is granted the license should expire on the date legal status expires or normal renew period whichever is less.


When will people begin to understand that the solution isn't building a wall that some politician can point to an say "see what I did" and addressing the reasons illegals come here to begin with and that is jobs. Without jobs they wouldn't come, without jobs they wouldn't stay.


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Meanwhile, the wall will keep them out. Waiting for politicians to do the right thing is for suckers.
 
Have we turned into Nazi Germany? This is ridiculous.

Have you turned into a complete imbecile? The man overstayed his visa by 14 years. The woman has a deportation order against her for the last six years and she's been arrested at least twice. You really think the American people are going to get on your side with these kinds of examples?

My mother came to this country legally. They can do it too.


Yeah and he continually applied for immigration status throughout those 14 years and was denied by our archaic immigration policy--that Republicans have refused to reform for the last 10 to 15 years.

What do you not understand about following the rules. The rules state it you willful violate your VISA then you are ineligible for any further VISA consideration. This is a very good rule because it punishes bad behavior and encourages good behavior.



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Garcia broke the law. Either we apply the law equally, ignore the law, or we allow the government to choose to apply, or not apply, the law based on their whim. There are no other choices.

Any further questions?


Well I guess then you won't mind paying for his American born kids via our Welfare programs will you? The same with the Mexican women-she's got 4 kids born in this country and without their incomes--guess where they're going to go?

Removing these type of people isn't a solution, it only creates another problem. And it's because we have politicians that have said NO to every immigration reform bill that has come down the pipeline for the last 20 years. And guess who those politicians are? REPUBLICANS.

The kids can accompany their parents on their trip back to Mexico.

Problem solved.
Are you saying that American citizens should be deported "back" to Mexico?
It's up to the parents. If they want to abandon their children, that's up to them. It's also up to them to take their children with them if they so desire.
 
Funny but I don't think Jesus Christ would approve of separating Husbands from wives and chldren or mothers from their children and families.

No one's separating families. Do you know Jesus?...then you know he tasked each of us to help provide for others in need - to reach into our pockets, to give generously. I can't quite put my finger on the verse where he gives you permission to reach into your neighbors pocket to 'give' generously.

BULLSHIT--ripping familes apart was never designed or would have been approved by Jesus Christ. Adolph Hitler was pretty good at it though.

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You comparison to Hitler proves that you have no argument.


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Where were all the angry protests back when Obama had the man detained and deported back in 2014? Suddenly it's all Donald Trump's fault? I get the sense this is just disingenuous faux outrage coming from another Trump-Hater. I don't believe the OP really cares about this man. I didn't see the same outrage back in 2014. I think it's only about hating on Trump. That's my take anyway.
 
IF TRUE this is an outrage. Good people should not be deported.

Depends on how you look at it. Some would say folks who willfully break the law, aren't necessarily 'Good People.' But personally, i'm ok with working something out with the man if he has no criminal history.

That being said, the OP is being disingenuous in blaming the Trump Administration for this. The Obama Administration detained and ordered his deportation back in 2014. I think the OP is more about hating on Trump than about helping this man. That's how i see it anyway.
 
IF TRUE this is an outrage. Good people should not be deported.

'Good' people don't break the law.

Good people don't don't cut in line. I've seen more than one fight break out over that.

At Disney World, Security will escort you out of the Park for it. If you give them any shit, they'll lock you up in their underground jail.

Decent people wait their turn. scumbags cut in line. Fuck 'em

dimocraps are stupid

and scum
 
He started a business, paid taxes, contributed to his community, and achieve what used to be known as the American Dream?!

Uh oh! Bad HOMBRE!!! :eek:

donald-trump-shocked.jpg

Appeal to emotion.....

What about appealing to emotion on all those people denied legal immigration because we can't raise the limits due to the current influx of illegals?


It's been the Republican party that has blocked any common sense immigration reform for 10 to 15 years now.

Marco Rubio--a Republican had a plan 4 years ago that they refused to even listen too. So we must assume that this is the 2.0 extension to the Republican Party's Family values platform. Their Christian values at work again--LOL Split em up and move em out.

I wonder how much this is going to cost the taxpayers in welfare and other social services programs?

trump-stupid-people-groups.jpg


Funny but I don't think Jesus Christ would approve of separating Husbands from wives and chldren or mothers from their children and families.
It has been the Democratic Party that is against reinterpreting the 14th amendment in a logical manner to solve most of our immigration problems overnight...


YOU idiots choose to preserve this problem.
 
Where were all the angry protests back when Obama had the man detained and deported back in 2014? Suddenly it's all Donald Trump's fault? I get the sense this is just disingenuous faux outrage coming from another Trump-Hater. I don't believe the OP really cares about this man. I didn't see the same outrage back in 2014. I think it's only about hating on Trump. That's my take anyway.
They need someone to become the mascot for their assault on native born Americans who don't want to compete with slave labor.
 
He started a business, paid taxes, contributed to his community, and achieve what used to be known as the American Dream?!

Uh oh! Bad HOMBRE!!! :eek:

donald-trump-shocked.jpg

Appeal to emotion.....

What about appealing to emotion on all those people denied legal immigration because we can't raise the limits due to the current influx of illegals?


It's been the Republican party that has blocked any common sense immigration reform for 10 to 15 years now.

Marco Rubio--a Republican had a plan 4 years ago that they refused to even listen too. So we must assume that this is the 2.0 extension to the Republican Party's Family values platform. Their Christian values at work again--LOL Split em up and move em out.

I wonder how much this is going to cost the taxpayers in welfare and other social services programs?

trump-stupid-people-groups.jpg

"Common sense immigration reform" is a leftwing euphemism meaning "amnesty." The American people blocked that. They are overwhelmingly opposed to it.


Again enjoy your extreme stance--which is no immigration reform--while you're paying out for these American born kids. You can raise them on the taxpayer dollar.
They aren't "Americans", moron.
 
Where were all the angry protests back when Obama had the man detained and deported back in 2014? Suddenly it's all Donald Trump's fault? I get the sense this is just disingenuous faux outrage coming from another Trump-Hater. I don't believe the OP really cares about this man. I didn't see the same outrage back in 2014. I think it's only about hating on Trump. That's my take anyway.
They need someone to become the mascot for their assault on native born Americans who don't want to compete with slave labor.

Yeah, i think the OP is much more about hating on Trump than about helping this man. I didn't see the same outrage when Obama detained and ordered this man's deportation back in 2014. Trump had nothing to do with it. Yet the OP played it off like it was all Trump's fault. Very disingenuous.
 
dimocrap scum are not th least bit different than their socialist cousins in North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela and elsewhere.

They talk pretty but all they really care about is power. Their coalition of other-than-whites was/is their hope of attaining the power they so cravenly desire.

Once they have it, once dimocrap scum have total power (their goal) nothing will stop them. They WILL become like their murdering socialist cousins in North Korea, Venezuela, etc.

It always happens with socialists. Every.Single.Time.

Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, Fidel, Mao. Every.Single.Time.

How many will die at the hand of American socialists when they finally gain absolute power?

As many as it takes to keep them in power. People, you just don't know what SCUM dimocraps are. You really don't.

The people that you are having mildly invigorating political discussions with today will gladly have you shot for being a 'counter-revolutionary' tomorrow.

Every.Single.Time.
 
U.S. Sen. Michael Bennet has introduced legislation to aid Arturo Hernandez Garcia, who spent nine months living in the basement of a Denver church to avoid deportation and was arrested on Wednesday by immigration officers for removal from the U.S.

“Arturo has been a valued member of our community for nearly two decades,” Bennet said in a written statement. “As a business owner, he has contributed to our economy and has always worked hard to support his family. He should not be a priority for deportation. This is yet another example of this Administration’s misguided immigration policies that do not align with our national priorities and values.”

Colorado immigrant advocates say arrest of Arturo Hernandez Garcia is an affront to sanctuary movement The Colorado Democrat’s office said a private bill for the relief of Hernandez Garcia comes as Bennet has reached out to the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and asked for more time in processing his case.

Hernandez Garcia was at work on Wednesday morning when ICE officers detained him unexpectedly. In October 2014, he took refuge in the basement of a Denver church for nine months, returning to his family in July 2015, after ICE sent him letter saying he was no longer an enforcement priority.

“Hernandez Garcia has overstayed his original, six-month visa by nearly 14 years,” ICE spokesman Carl Rusnok said in a written statement Wednesday. “He has exhausted his petitions through the immigration courts and through ICE. He is currently in ICE custody pending his removal.”
Bill introduced to air Arturo Hernandez Garcia

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Also in Denver, Colorado

A Mexican woman seeking to avoid deportation is taking refuge in a Denver church after U.S. immigration authorities denied her request to remain in the country.

Jeanette Vizguerra (vihz-GEHR'-uh) skipped her scheduled check-in with Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials Wednesday in suburban Centennial. About 100 supporters demonstrated outside the building as her attorney, Hans Meyer, and a minister went inside and was told Vizguerra would not get another extension.

Meyer says the mother of four has been trying to get a visa granted to crime victims and the government has typically given extensions during that lengthy process.

ICE says she is an "enforcement priority" because she has two misdemeanor convictions and a judge had issued a deportation order for her in 2011.

Vizguerra vowed to continue her fight for her children's sakes.
https://www.usnews.com/news/colorad...an-goes-to-denver-church-to-avoid-deportation

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Have we turned into Nazi Germany? This is ridiculous.
Fuck him.

Can I break into your house then hide in a local church until a congressman writes a law to protect me from being persecuted for illegally entering your home?
 

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