Deadly NYC subway fight

[pknopp]

Why do you always side with the attackers and not the victims?

I side with life. See, I'm pro-life.

 

[Woodznutz]

Nobody.

Thought so.

 

[Blaster]

I side with life. See, I'm pro-life.

You are pro-stupidity.

 

[pknopp]

You are pro-stupid.

There you go, instead of addressing my argument and position, call me names. Do you feel better about yourself now?

 

[Blaster]

There you go, instead of addressing my argument and position, call me names. Do you feel better about yourself now?

Your posts indicate you are stupid. Self incrimination.

 

[pknopp]

Your posts indicate you are stupid. Self incrimination.

Address my point then. It should be easy. He was choking him out for near 15 minutes. That was not necessary to subdue him. Even after the guy went limp he continued on for nearly another minute.

 

[Blaster]

Address my point then. It should be easy. He was choking him out for near 15 minutes. That was not necessary to subdue him. Even after the guy went limp he continued on for nearly another minute.

Shit happens. Why would this concern you?

 

[pknopp]

Shit happens. Why would this concern you?

I explained why. I'm pro-life.

 

[Blaster]

I explained why. I'm pro-life.

Cool story dude.

 

[Batcat]

Well the military man failed.

My jujitsu instructor cautioned us about using too much pressure while applying a judo choke hold for self defense in real life. He said to apply just enough pressure so that the individual would cause himself to lose consciousness by his own resistance.

A child can use a judo choke hold and cause an adult to lose consciousness. In fact that happened to a student in my jujitsu class. Her son suck up from behind her and applied the choke hold while she was eating breakfast. If I remember correctly he was only about ten years old.

Also we were told to not continue to choke the person after he lost consciousness. There are other techniques that can be used to restrain an individual until the authorities arrive.

For example:

 

[horselightning]

Marine who put Jordan Neely into chokehold on subway acted in self-defense, lawyers say

Daniel Penny, who authorities say is the man who put Jordan Neely into a deadly chokehold, was protecting himself and others at the time, his lawyers said.

www.aol.com

no charges on neely . lawyers say self defense.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

no he didnt.

Oh! You mean to suggest he meant to murder the man?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

he through stuff at them and threatened there lived and started fighting with others. the marine did nothing wrong.

where did you get this info, ...

pull it out of your arse?

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Lisa558

I hear more crying over a man with 42 arrests than that nice woman who was sitting on the bench in the subway when a monster stabbed her. What was your reaction when you read about what happened to HER?

You people are always looking to argue using moral equivalencies. It's really sad.

What's your point? One murder is worse than the other?

It's a NYC story. NY people know about both. The difference is a supposed good samartian ended up involved in a homicide.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

He didn’t physically assault anyone because the Marine stopped him. These mentally ill criminals often have long arrest records and are extremely dangerous.

What about that criminal thug who beat a woman senseless on the subway platform - and for no reason at all? Turned out he had killed his own grandmother.

Do not excuse vigilantism

A dangerous person deserves to be murdered? Okay

 

[Dante Reawakened]

Marine who put Jordan Neely into chokehold on subway acted in self-defense, lawyers say

Daniel Penny, who authorities say is the man who put Jordan Neely into a deadly chokehold, was protecting himself and others at the time, his lawyers said.

www.aol.com

no charges on neely . lawyers say self defense.

What lawyers?

Self defense? so a big tough former, always a Marine was in danger?

 

[Lisa558]

Lisa558


You people are always looking to argue using moral equivalencies. It's really sad.

What's your point? One murder is worse than the other?

It's a NYC story. NY people know about both. The difference is a supposed good samartian ended up involved in a homicide.

No, the point is that to progressives, one murder IS worse than the other - and that’s when the victim is Black, even a dangerous criminal assaulting passengers, and the person who saved them from him is white, with progressives marching in the street and threatening to “burn it down” if he isn’t charged with murder. When the victim is white, and an innocent one at that minding his own business, then there’s nowhere as much outrage, especially if the killer is Black.

The very fact that black is automatically capitalized and white is lower-cased is an attempt to show that blacks are more important.

 

[Dante Reawakened]

No, the point is that to progressives, one murder IS worse than the other - and that’s when the victim is Black, even a dangerous criminal assaulting passengers, and the person who saved them from him is white, with progressives marching in the street and threatening to “burn it down” if he isn’t charged with murder. When the victim is white, and an innocent one at that minding his own business, then there’s nowhere as much outrage, especially if the killer is Black.

The very fact that black is automatically capitalized and white is lower-cased is an attempt to show that blacks are more important.

Race?

 

[Batcat]

No, the point is that to progressives, one murder IS worse than the other - and that’s when the victim is Black, even a dangerous criminal assaulting passengers, and the person who saved them from him is white, with progressives marching in the street and threatening to “burn it down” if he isn’t charged with murder. When the victim is white, and an innocent one at that minding his own business, then there’s nowhere as much outrage, especially if the killer is Black.

The very fact that black is automatically capitalized and white is lower-cased is an attempt to show that blacks are more important.

Actually you can choose to either capitalize Black and White or use lowercase. You should ”chose one and be consistent.”

Black and White: When Should We Capitalize? - Right Touch Editing

Language changes with use. Who's capping "Black" and "White"? How can editors decide which style to follow? Read on to find out.

www.righttouchediting.com

Update: October 26, 2021​

With the 9th edition (2021), MLA has updated its advice to the following: “When the dictionary gives both the capitalized and lowercased form as acceptable options—as many do for black and Black, for example—choose one and be consistent. If you are working directly with an author or discussing a person or community whose preferences are known, however, follow that preference” (p. 91). Updated as well is the current estimated publishing date for the Scientific Style and Format Online. The PDF and table have been updated below.

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[Dante Reawakened]

Shocking video shows NYC subway passenger putting unhinged man in deadly chokehold

Troubling video footage captures the moment a 30-year-old is knocked out by a wannabe hero straphanger and held in a chokehold until he dies on the F train.

nypost.com

Did the blond marine use too much force or not
???

“These choking techniques, if applied properly, are a fast and safe way to knock out the enemy,” a sergeant said in an article on the Marines website.

New Marines are trained to apply a “blood choke,” which, when done properly, cuts off blood and oxygen to the brain in as little as eight seconds. But it is imperative in a blood choke to not squeeze the person’s windpipe, which could lead to injury or worse, according to training documents.

How Two Men’s Disparate Paths Crossed in a Killing on the F Train (Published 2023)

Jordan Neely’s mental health decline played out in public after his mother was strangled. Daniel Penny said he was protecting himself and others when he choked Mr. Neely.

www.nytimes.com