Creepshow Cruz At It Again!

[whitehall]

Lighten up lefties. Remember when CBS used forged documents to try to influence a presidential election? They should all be in jail but Dan Rather makes about 100k per speech.

"lefties"? Huh?

OK. let's try it this way. Lighten up people, remember how CBS used forged documents to try to influence a presidential election. It puts alleged hard ball political dirty tricks in perspective.

 

[Eaglewings]

It's hardball politics, and Rubio needs to get out.

Cruz is the only choice if you want to see regressive policies rolled back, and the democrook party marginalized.

Otherwise we get more "compromise", the democrook agenda gets advanced, and America continues to decline.

Sad to see someone supporting dirty politics anything goes man. BFD if you like his positions ... He is still going to screw you no matter how you bend over.

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Dude, you are supporting a candidate who claimed Ben Carson was a pedophile. That's a little bit dirtier than referencing the news

Cruz's college roommates hate him, the Congress hates him....he is a scum bag. Trump liked him at first but he stabbed him in the back, as well as stabbing Carson in the back .
Cruz had dinner with Carson on several occasions.. and he showed his character in Iowa right , Carson knows it.


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[Avatar4321]

It's hardball politics, and Rubio needs to get out.

Cruz is the only choice if you want to see regressive policies rolled back, and the democrook party marginalized.

Otherwise we get more "compromise", the democrook agenda gets advanced, and America continues to decline.

Sad to see someone supporting dirty politics anything goes man. BFD if you like his positions ... He is still going to screw you no matter how you bend over.

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Dude, you are supporting a candidate who claimed Ben Carson was a pedophile. That's a little bit dirtier than referencing the news

Cruz's college roommates hate him, the Congress hates him....he is a scum bag. Trump liked him at first but he stabbed him in the back, as well as stabbing Carson in the back .
Cruz had dinner with Carson on several occasions.. and he showed his character in Iowa right , Carson knows it.


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He has shown his character. He is the only decent candidate left in this race.

You've also shown your character. After all it takes a certain type of person to think citing a news story is dirty while calling Dr Carson a pedophile isn't.

 

[SwimExpert]

I want the guy who will work to undo the damage done by the meat puppet ****** and undermine the regressive democrook agenda.

Ted Cruz is a meat puppet ****** Republicrook. He's second in bringing shame to the party only to Trump.

 

[Eaglewings]

He has shown his character. He is the only decent candidate left in this race.

You've also shown your character. After all it takes a certain type of person to think citing a news story is dirty while calling Dr Carson a pedophile isn't.

Ben Carson Blames Press for Donald Trump’s Child Molester Comparison

“I don’t believe he called me a child molester,” he said, adding: “I always find it a little amusing what people in the press like to say.

Ben Carson Blames Press for Donald Trump’s Child Molester Comparison


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[Pete7469]

Cruz's college roommates hate him, the Congress hates him....he is a scum bag. Trump liked him at first but he stabbed him in the back, as well as stabbing Carson in the back .
Cruz had dinner with Carson on several occasions.. and he showed his character in Iowa right , Carson knows it.

The college roommate who hates him is a bed wetting liberal. All bed wetting liberal hate Cruz because they know he will actually undermine their beloved nanny state. To say that everyone hated him is ridiculous.

As far as the senate goes, having that den of snakes embittered because you stand by your principles while they prove they have none is a resume enhancement.

Again he plays hardball, and I want someone to play hardball with these criminally insane totalitarian sociopaths.

 

[JimBowie1958]

This shenanigan began last night when the Cruz campaign fed a false story to CNN that "Rubio advisers are saying Marco should drop out before the Florida primary". Of course CNN ran the story being as low-rent as Cruz is. Then the Cruz campaign started emailing Hawaii residents the CNN story. This is the same kind of sleazy games Cruz played on Ben Carson. I said earlier today I'd entertain voting for Cruz if Rubio can't make it to 1,237. NO MORE. In fact, I'd vote for the charlatan Trump over the Creepshow canuck.

Rubio camp accuses Cruz of 'dirty tricks' over Hawaii 'dropout' email | Fox News

Cruz denies any responsibility for the story.

 

[JimBowie1958]

2 major things make me think less of Cruz................the attack on Carson..............and his TAP dancing on his Tax policy............He still claims that it isn't a VAT........even though places like the Tax Foundation lay it out in spades that it is a VAT.........

A VAT would tax goods at every stage of production, going from one manufacturer to the next as opposed to a sales tax that would tax only the retail sale.
Value-added tax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A value-added tax (VAT) or goods and services tax (GST) is a popular way of implementing a consumption tax in Europe, Japan, and many other countries. It differs from the sales tax in that taxes are applied to the difference between the seller-purchased price and the resale price. This is accomplished by taking full tax on all sales, but refunding the tax difference to the sellers.

The VAT is an alternative to a sales tax, to deal with a specific problem.

With a sales tax, a business selling goods is responsible to make a subjective decision about the intent of the buyer, one which it may not be fully competent to make. If buyers intend to consume the goods themselves, then the seller must collect a tax on the purchase price. If instead buyers intend the goods as capital goods, to be resold at a profit after adding value to them, then the seller must not collect the tax. Sellers thus have an incentive to claim that a sale is non-taxable, in order to please customers, creating an incentive to under-collect taxes.

The refund portion of a VAT removes that incentive, and incentivizes accurate collection. If the buyer is a businessperson, then the VAT is a temporary payment to the state, based on the purchase price, eventually to be reimbursed by the state for the initial payment when the goods are resold, usually after adding value to them. Hence collecting the tax is a way to get money back. Consumers, with no possible refund, have no reason to inaccurately report their intended use.

The term "value added" refers to the sale price a business charges the customer for a product, minus the cost of materials and other taxable inputs.

A VAT is like a sales tax in that ultimately only the end consumer is taxed. It differs from the sales tax in that with the sales tax, the tax is collected and remitted to the government only once, at the point of purchase by the end consumer. With the VAT, on the other hand, collections, remittances to the government, and credits for taxes that are already paid occur each time a business in the supply chain purchases products.

The use of a VAT tax would generate more revenue than a regular tax, certainly, but Cruz is proposing a 10% flat tax on all income over $36k for a family of four.

The Simple Flat Tax Plan | Cruz for President

How in the hell is that considered a 'Value Added Tax'?

 

[JimBowie1958]

Cruz's college roommates hate him, the Congress hates him....he is a scum bag. Trump liked him at first but he stabbed him in the back, as well as stabbing Carson in the back .
Cruz had dinner with Carson on several occasions.. and he showed his character in Iowa right , Carson knows it.
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I guess Cruz give the Devil himself BJs too, right?

The only lying sell out in this campaign is Rubio, not Cruz, Trump or Kasich.

 

[eagle1462010]

2 major things make me think less of Cruz................the attack on Carson..............and his TAP dancing on his Tax policy............He still claims that it isn't a VAT........even though places like the Tax Foundation lay it out in spades that it is a VAT.........

A VAT would tax goods at every stage of production, going from one manufacturer to the next as opposed to a sales tax that would tax only the retail sale.
Value-added tax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A value-added tax (VAT) or goods and services tax (GST) is a popular way of implementing a consumption tax in Europe, Japan, and many other countries. It differs from the sales tax in that taxes are applied to the difference between the seller-purchased price and the resale price. This is accomplished by taking full tax on all sales, but refunding the tax difference to the sellers.

The VAT is an alternative to a sales tax, to deal with a specific problem.

With a sales tax, a business selling goods is responsible to make a subjective decision about the intent of the buyer, one which it may not be fully competent to make. If buyers intend to consume the goods themselves, then the seller must collect a tax on the purchase price. If instead buyers intend the goods as capital goods, to be resold at a profit after adding value to them, then the seller must not collect the tax. Sellers thus have an incentive to claim that a sale is non-taxable, in order to please customers, creating an incentive to under-collect taxes.

The refund portion of a VAT removes that incentive, and incentivizes accurate collection. If the buyer is a businessperson, then the VAT is a temporary payment to the state, based on the purchase price, eventually to be reimbursed by the state for the initial payment when the goods are resold, usually after adding value to them. Hence collecting the tax is a way to get money back. Consumers, with no possible refund, have no reason to inaccurately report their intended use.

The term "value added" refers to the sale price a business charges the customer for a product, minus the cost of materials and other taxable inputs.

A VAT is like a sales tax in that ultimately only the end consumer is taxed. It differs from the sales tax in that with the sales tax, the tax is collected and remitted to the government only once, at the point of purchase by the end consumer. With the VAT, on the other hand, collections, remittances to the government, and credits for taxes that are already paid occur each time a business in the supply chain purchases products.

The use of a VAT tax would generate more revenue than a regular tax, certainly, but Cruz is proposing a 10% flat tax on all income over $36k for a family of four.

The Simple Flat Tax Plan | Cruz for President

How in the hell is that considered a 'Value Added Tax'?

Ted Cruz’s “Business Flat Tax:” A Primer

 

[Eaglewings]

Cruz's college roommates hate him, the Congress hates him....he is a scum bag. Trump liked him at first but he stabbed him in the back, as well as stabbing Carson in the back .
Cruz had dinner with Carson on several occasions.. and he showed his character in Iowa right , Carson knows it.
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I guess Cruz give the Devil himself BJs too, right?

The only lying sell out in this campaign is Rubio, not Cruz, Trump or Kasich.

Cruz speaks like he is in a school play singing Hamlet...haaa green eggs and hamlet. Rubio is easier to look at, and he speaks better...Both are too practiced.
Trump just blabs and blabs with a bit of substance.. All are scumbags..

 

[eagle1462010]

Fact Checking The Latest Cruz Super PAC Tax Ad In Florida

If that was the end of it, that would be a fantastic tax cut for people. But it’s not.

“His 16% business flat tax will promote growth in the economy.”

Here’s where Cruz hides the ball. First, his “business flat tax” is actually a subtraction method VAT (value added tax). It doesn’t matter how many times it’s denied by the candidate and his supporters–no serious tax expert of any partisan or ideological stripe says it’s not a VAT.

Because it’s a VAT, wages are not deductible from the business tax base, as they are under the corporate income tax this plan displaces. What that means is that wages are taxed twice under the Cruz plan. First, they are taxed by the VAT. Then, they are taxed again on the personal level. Put those two wage taxes together and you have an integrated/cascaded wage tax of 24.4%.

According to my calculations, including both the VAT tax on wages and the flat tax on wages results in higher total taxes for a median income family of four, not lower taxes. By contrast, Marco Rubio’s plan would result in a tax cut of thousands of dollars for this family, despite keeping the payroll tax in place.

A VAT tax base (business income minus payments to businesses) is different from business profit tax bases (business income minus all expenses) in ways besides the double taxation of wages. VAT bases also tax employer provided health insurance and other fringe benefits, pension and 401(k) contributions, new houses sold, churches, charities, colleges, hospitals, and more. Depending on how it’s designed, a VAT might even result in the government paying taxes to itself. These buckets of revenue are not touched today by the corporate income tax, but they probably would have to be under the Cruz VAT plan to make the numbers add up.

 

[JimBowie1958]

2 major things make me think less of Cruz................the attack on Carson..............and his TAP dancing on his Tax policy............He still claims that it isn't a VAT........even though places like the Tax Foundation lay it out in spades that it is a VAT.........

A VAT would tax goods at every stage of production, going from one manufacturer to the next as opposed to a sales tax that would tax only the retail sale.
Value-added tax - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A value-added tax (VAT) or goods and services tax (GST) is a popular way of implementing a consumption tax in Europe, Japan, and many other countries. It differs from the sales tax in that taxes are applied to the difference between the seller-purchased price and the resale price. This is accomplished by taking full tax on all sales, but refunding the tax difference to the sellers.

The VAT is an alternative to a sales tax, to deal with a specific problem.

With a sales tax, a business selling goods is responsible to make a subjective decision about the intent of the buyer, one which it may not be fully competent to make. If buyers intend to consume the goods themselves, then the seller must collect a tax on the purchase price. If instead buyers intend the goods as capital goods, to be resold at a profit after adding value to them, then the seller must not collect the tax. Sellers thus have an incentive to claim that a sale is non-taxable, in order to please customers, creating an incentive to under-collect taxes.

The refund portion of a VAT removes that incentive, and incentivizes accurate collection. If the buyer is a businessperson, then the VAT is a temporary payment to the state, based on the purchase price, eventually to be reimbursed by the state for the initial payment when the goods are resold, usually after adding value to them. Hence collecting the tax is a way to get money back. Consumers, with no possible refund, have no reason to inaccurately report their intended use.

The term "value added" refers to the sale price a business charges the customer for a product, minus the cost of materials and other taxable inputs.

A VAT is like a sales tax in that ultimately only the end consumer is taxed. It differs from the sales tax in that with the sales tax, the tax is collected and remitted to the government only once, at the point of purchase by the end consumer. With the VAT, on the other hand, collections, remittances to the government, and credits for taxes that are already paid occur each time a business in the supply chain purchases products.

The use of a VAT tax would generate more revenue than a regular tax, certainly, but Cruz is proposing a 10% flat tax on all income over $36k for a family of four.

The Simple Flat Tax Plan | Cruz for President

How in the hell is that considered a 'Value Added Tax'?

Ted Cruz’s “Business Flat Tax:” A Primer

That report is a hit piece. The FICA tax is not a consumption tax (it is Social Security and Medicare) and would not fall under the business flat tax of 16% nor the Personal income tax of 10%. That whole thing is ridiculous and Teds 16% flat tax for businesses is a VAT but not the personal income tax.

Details and Analysis of Senator Ted Cruz’s Tax Plan
Senator Cruz’s tax plan would significantly alter the federal tax code. It would completely repeal the corporate income tax and all payroll taxes and enact a 10 percent income tax and a 16 percent “business transfer tax” or value-added tax. These changes to the tax code would increase the incentives to work and invest and would greatly increase the U.S. economy’s size in the long run, leading to higher incomes for taxpayers at all income levels. The plan would also be a large tax cut, which would increase the federal government’s deficit by over $3.6 trillion on a static basis. Accounting for the growth caused by the plan, federal revenues would decline by $768 billion over the next decade.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Fact Checking The Latest Cruz Super PAC Tax Ad In Florida

If that was the end of it, that would be a fantastic tax cut for people. But it’s not.

“His 16% business flat tax will promote growth in the economy.”

Here’s where Cruz hides the ball. First, his “business flat tax” is actually a subtraction method VAT (value added tax). It doesn’t matter how many times it’s denied by the candidate and his supporters–no serious tax expert of any partisan or ideological stripe says it’s not a VAT.

Because it’s a VAT, wages are not deductible from the business tax base, as they are under the corporate income tax this plan displaces. What that means is that wages are taxed twice under the Cruz plan. First, they are taxed by the VAT. Then, they are taxed again on the personal level. .

Bullshit. Show in HIS DOCUMENTATION FOR HIS PROPOSAL where he would have a VAT on personal income or payroll taxes (FICA).

 

[ptbw forever]

It's hardball politics, and Rubio needs to get out.

Cruz is the only choice if you want to see regressive policies rolled back, and the democrook party marginalized.

Otherwise we get more "compromise", the democrook agenda gets advanced, and America continues to decline.

Trump is doing plenty of damage to Democrats already.

 

[MrShangles]

It's hardball politics, and Rubio needs to get out.

Cruz is the only choice if you want to see regressive policies rolled back, and the democrook party marginalized.

Otherwise we get more "compromise", the democrook agenda gets advanced, and America continues to decline.

Screw you....tell Cruz to get out, loser.

Cruze and Little Rubio should both get out of Trumps way, they are already in politics but no change.
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[JimBowie1958]

It's hardball politics, and Rubio needs to get out.

Cruz is the only choice if you want to see regressive policies rolled back, and the democrook party marginalized.

Otherwise we get more "compromise", the democrook agenda gets advanced, and America continues to decline.

Screw you....tell Cruz to get out, loser.

Cruze and Little Rubio should both get out of Trumps way, they are already in politics but no change.
BUILD THE WALL


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Cruz is also a viable alternative, and should run hard against Trump. The rest are in the way of the classic two man race that will honestly decide this primary and likely the general election also.

 

[Pete7469]

Cruz is also a viable alternative, and should run hard against Trump. The rest are in the way of the classic two man race that will honestly decide this primary and likely the general election also.

Agreed.

I can't believe there are people who honestly believe a wall would be built.

EVEN IF the senate was entirely in the hands of hard line anti-illegal immigrant elected officials, there are so many sniveling libturds in the federal bureaucracy and the judiciary that 8 years of court battles and sabotage would be the legacy of the Trump wall.

The moonbat messiah couldn't even close Gitmo.

There will be no wall. If Ted Cruz wins we will have a real president for the first time in decades who will pass and enforce laws that make existing in America illegally a very uncomfortable endeavor. Illegals will go home grudgingly, but they will go home. Border Patrol agents will no longer be undermined from the top and that will make all the difference.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Cruz is also a viable alternative, and should run hard against Trump. The rest are in the way of the classic two man race that will honestly decide this primary and likely the general election also.

Agreed.

I can't believe there are people who honestly believe a wall would be built.

EVEN IF the senate was entirely in the hands of hard line anti-illegal immigrant elected officials, there are so many sniveling libturds in the federal bureaucracy and the judiciary that 8 years of court battles and sabotage would be the legacy of the Trump wall.

The moonbat messiah couldn't even close Gitmo.

There will be no wall. If Ted Cruz wins we will have a real president for the first time in decades who will pass and enforce laws that make existing in America illegally a very uncomfortable endeavor. Illegals will go home grudgingly, but they will go home. Border Patrol agents will no longer be undermined from the top and that will make all the difference.

I disagree. The wall will be built as the GOP will have control of both houses of Congress.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

So Cruz is bad because he references news stories.

What is this world coming to when our front runner is a man literally fleeces the elderly and somehow the current runner up is the sleazy one for citing the news?

Rubio should be getting out before Florida.

No, Cruz is bad because he's a bigot who wants to make criminals of gay Americans, compel women to give birth against their will, and codify religious dogma into secular law in violation of the First Amendment.