Cops Killing Civilians: What Is It Really About?

[CherryPanda]

According to the GALLUP study, the black population has less trust to the police. African American citizens do not believe that the police, the court or any other state institution can protect them (or protects them enough). They also believe to be mistreated by the police.

Do they have real grounds for such attitude or is there some other side of the coin?

Just think about it. Not a single person wants to go outside being afraid of a police officer, thinking what to do or not to do in order to avoid police brutality. But why is it the blacks who are more afraid of the police, not the whites?

And then just think about the cops who die on duty. There are quite a lot of them, btw. I don’t think any of them want to die, so there are rules they follow to avoid risks and to prevent some injuries from happening. Especially in certain environment and neighborhoods. And then there are circumstances in which an average cop would be more nervous and prepared to use his gun.

I’m not implying here that some citizens are provoking officers or some officers are too nervous. I’m just trying to say that there are two sides (at least, so maybe there are even more) of the problem when both parties move to escalating the conflict.

In general, I think that we have here a complicated social, cultural and historical controversy which no one is planning to solve. And just forbidding cops to shoot won’t work. Neither will rules on how to behave in front of the police officer help.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

According to the GALLUP study, the black population has less trust to the police. African American citizens do not believe that the police, the court or any other state institution can protect them (or protects them enough). They also believe to be mistreated by the police.

Do they have real grounds for such attitude or is there some other side of the coin?

Just think about it. Not a single person wants to go outside being afraid of a police officer, thinking what to do or not to do in order to avoid police brutality. But why is it the blacks who are more afraid of the police, not the whites?

And then just think about the cops who die on duty. There are quite a lot of them, btw. I don’t think any of them want to die, so there are rules they follow to avoid risks and to prevent some injuries from happening. Especially in certain environment and neighborhoods. And then there are circumstances in which an average cop would be more nervous and prepared to use his gun.

I’m not implying here that some citizens are provoking officers or some officers are too nervous. I’m just trying to say that there are two sides (at least, so maybe there are even more) of the problem when both parties move to escalating the conflict.

In general, I think that we have here a complicated social, cultural and historical controversy which no one is planning to solve. And just forbidding cops to shoot won’t work. Neither will rules on how to behave in front of the police officer help.

13 percent of the population committing over 50 percent of the violent crime may have something to do with it. If blacks don't like being how they are treated they should change how they behave. Respect is earned.

 

[Asclepias]

According to the GALLUP study, the black population has less trust to the police. African American citizens do not believe that the police, the court or any other state institution can protect them (or protects them enough). They also believe to be mistreated by the police.

Do they have real grounds for such attitude or is there some other side of the coin?

Just think about it. Not a single person wants to go outside being afraid of a police officer, thinking what to do or not to do in order to avoid police brutality. But why is it the blacks who are more afraid of the police, not the whites?

And then just think about the cops who die on duty. There are quite a lot of them, btw. I don’t think any of them want to die, so there are rules they follow to avoid risks and to prevent some injuries from happening. Especially in certain environment and neighborhoods. And then there are circumstances in which an average cop would be more nervous and prepared to use his gun.

I’m not implying here that some citizens are provoking officers or some officers are too nervous. I’m just trying to say that there are two sides (at least, so maybe there are even more) of the problem when both parties move to escalating the conflict.

In general, I think that we have here a complicated social, cultural and historical controversy which no one is planning to solve. And just forbidding cops to shoot won’t work. Neither will rules on how to behave in front of the police officer help.

IMO the problem with the police is a manifestation and microcosm of the racial history in the US. It was not until Civil Rights did you see the large scale appearance of heavy handed police presence in the Black community. That points directly to an issue of control. "How do we keep control of the Black people problem?" Once the legal control of Blacks via Jim Crow was dismantled there had to be another means put in place. I believe that police were the answer to that question asked by some of the countries top politicians. Until everyone acknowledges the reality of this dynamic we will not be able to resolve this.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

According to the GALLUP study, the black population has less trust to the police. African American citizens do not believe that the police, the court or any other state institution can protect them (or protects them enough). They also believe to be mistreated by the police.

Do they have real grounds for such attitude or is there some other side of the coin?

Just think about it. Not a single person wants to go outside being afraid of a police officer, thinking what to do or not to do in order to avoid police brutality. But why is it the blacks who are more afraid of the police, not the whites?

And then just think about the cops who die on duty. There are quite a lot of them, btw. I don’t think any of them want to die, so there are rules they follow to avoid risks and to prevent some injuries from happening. Especially in certain environment and neighborhoods. And then there are circumstances in which an average cop would be more nervous and prepared to use his gun.

I’m not implying here that some citizens are provoking officers or some officers are too nervous. I’m just trying to say that there are two sides (at least, so maybe there are even more) of the problem when both parties move to escalating the conflict.

In general, I think that we have here a complicated social, cultural and historical controversy which no one is planning to solve. And just forbidding cops to shoot won’t work. Neither will rules on how to behave in front of the police officer help.

IMO the problem with the police is a manifestation and microcosm of the racial history in the US. It was not until Civil Rights did you see the large scale appearance of heavy handed police presence in the Black community. That points directly to an issue of control. "How do we keep control of the Black people problem?" Once the legal control of Blacks via Jim Crow was dismantled there had to be another means put in place. I believe that police were the answer to that question asked by some of the countries top politicians. Until everyone acknowledges the reality of this dynamic we will not be able to resolve this.

The problem isn't the police. It's the idiots that break the law. Garner nor Brown would be dead today had they simply obeyed the law. Seems some blacks are too stupid to acknowledge where the real fault lies.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

i have a friend who is handicapped and he now cant stand blacks.men anyways.He was walking outside his apartment and this black man tried to mug him.what was funny about it is my handicapped friend was able to take him out and got someone to call the cops on him and take him to jail.the police officer couldnt believe it either just as I couldnt,that he took him out. its jerks like that guy that have given blacks the bad rap they get.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

According to the GALLUP study, the black population has less trust to the police. African American citizens do not believe that the police, the court or any other state institution can protect them (or protects them enough). They also believe to be mistreated by the police.

Do they have real grounds for such attitude or is there some other side of the coin?

Just think about it. Not a single person wants to go outside being afraid of a police officer, thinking what to do or not to do in order to avoid police brutality. But why is it the blacks who are more afraid of the police, not the whites?

And then just think about the cops who die on duty. There are quite a lot of them, btw. I don’t think any of them want to die, so there are rules they follow to avoid risks and to prevent some injuries from happening. Especially in certain environment and neighborhoods. And then there are circumstances in which an average cop would be more nervous and prepared to use his gun.

I’m not implying here that some citizens are provoking officers or some officers are too nervous. I’m just trying to say that there are two sides (at least, so maybe there are even more) of the problem when both parties move to escalating the conflict.

In general, I think that we have here a complicated social, cultural and historical controversy which no one is planning to solve. And just forbidding cops to shoot won’t work. Neither will rules on how to behave in front of the police officer help.

IMO the problem with the police is a manifestation and microcosm of the racial history in the US. It was not until Civil Rights did you see the large scale appearance of heavy handed police presence in the Black community. That points directly to an issue of control. "How do we keep control of the Black people problem?" Once the legal control of Blacks via Jim Crow was dismantled there had to be another means put in place. I believe that police were the answer to that question asked by some of the countries top politicians. Until everyone acknowledges the reality of this dynamic we will not be able to resolve this.

The problem isn't the police. It's the idiots that break the law. Garner nor Brown would be dead today had they simply obeyed the law. Seems some blacks are too stupid to acknowledge where the real fault lies.

The crimes they had been convicted of and executed for?

Being black.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

i have a friend who is handicapped and he now cant stand blacks.men anyways.He was walking outside his apartment and this black man tried to mug him.what was funny about it is my handicapped friend was able to take him out and got someone to call the cops on him and take him to jail.the police officer couldnt believe it either just as I couldnt,that he took him out. its jerks like that guy that have given blacks the bad rap they get.

By your own account, your friend "can't stand blacks" because ONE man tried to mug him.

OTOH. I admit I now judge all rabid, racist RWs by what I read here.

 

[Asclepias]

i have a friend who is handicapped and he now cant stand blacks.men anyways.He was walking outside his apartment and this black man tried to mug him.what was funny about it is my handicapped friend was able to take him out and got someone to call the cops on him and take him to jail.the police officer couldnt believe it either just as I couldnt,that he took him out. its jerks like that guy that have given blacks the bad rap they get.

Your friend sounds like an idiot. No wonder he is handicapped. Does he claim all Black men attacked him or just one?

 

[R.D.]

According to the GALLUP study, the black population has less trust to the police. African American citizens do not believe that the police, the court or any other state institution can protect them (or protects them enough). They also believe to be mistreated by the police.

Do they have real grounds for such attitude or is there some other side of the coin?

Just think about it. Not a single person wants to go outside being afraid of a police officer, thinking what to do or not to do in order to avoid police brutality. But why is it the blacks who are more afraid of the police, not the whites?

And then just think about the cops who die on duty. There are quite a lot of them, btw. I don’t think any of them want to die, so there are rules they follow to avoid risks and to prevent some injuries from happening. Especially in certain environment and neighborhoods. And then there are circumstances in which an average cop would be more nervous and prepared to use his gun.

I’m not implying here that some citizens are provoking officers or some officers are too nervous. I’m just trying to say that there are two sides (at least, so maybe there are even more) of the problem when both parties move to escalating the conflict.

In general, I think that we have here a complicated social, cultural and historical controversy which no one is planning to solve. And just forbidding cops to shoot won’t work. Neither will rules on how to behave in front of the police officer help.

IMO the problem with the police is a manifestation and microcosm of the racial history in the US. It was not until Civil Rights did you see the large scale appearance of heavy handed police presence in the Black community. That points directly to an issue of control. "How do we keep control of the Black people problem?" Once the legal control of Blacks via Jim Crow was dismantled there had to be another means put in place. I believe that police were the answer to that question asked by some of the countries top politicians. Until everyone acknowledges the reality of this dynamic we will not be able to resolve this.

The problem isn't the police. It's the idiots that break the law. Garner nor Brown would be dead today had they simply obeyed the law. Seems some blacks are too stupid to acknowledge where the real fault lies.

Why do the riots and protests always surround black men killed while committing a crime? There are many instances of police misconduct and brutality over innocent men.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

What's it about?

A culture that has had its values weakened to the point that a parent can't even dicipline a child without risking a visit from family services or police.
All & I mean ALL of our self inflicted social issues stem from childhood.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

i have a friend who is handicapped and he now cant stand blacks.men anyways.He was walking outside his apartment and this black man tried to mug him.what was funny about it is my handicapped friend was able to take him out and got someone to call the cops on him and take him to jail.the police officer couldnt believe it either just as I couldnt,that he took him out. its jerks like that guy that have given blacks the bad rap they get.

By your own account, your friend "can't stand blacks" because ONE man tried to mug him.

OTOH. I admit I now judge all rabid, racist RWs by what I read here.

hey i cant blame him,he hasnt ever been mugged by a white man so if i was in his shoes,i might feel the same way.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

i have a friend who is handicapped and he now cant stand blacks.men anyways.He was walking outside his apartment and this black man tried to mug him.what was funny about it is my handicapped friend was able to take him out and got someone to call the cops on him and take him to jail.the police officer couldnt believe it either just as I couldnt,that he took him out. its jerks like that guy that have given blacks the bad rap they get.

Your friend sounds like an idiot. No wonder he is handicapped. Does he claim all Black men attacked him or just one?

put yourself in his shoes for a minute,you have never been almost mugged your whole life,the one time it happens,its by a black man..i cant blame him for feeling that way.not saying i would be like him myself and feel like that but i can understand his thinking though.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

i have a friend who is handicapped and he now cant stand blacks.men anyways.He was walking outside his apartment and this black man tried to mug him.what was funny about it is my handicapped friend was able to take him out and got someone to call the cops on him and take him to jail.the police officer couldnt believe it either just as I couldnt,that he took him out. its jerks like that guy that have given blacks the bad rap they get.

Anyone believe this nut job has a friend?

 

[Asclepias]

i have a friend who is handicapped and he now cant stand blacks.men anyways.He was walking outside his apartment and this black man tried to mug him.what was funny about it is my handicapped friend was able to take him out and got someone to call the cops on him and take him to jail.the police officer couldnt believe it either just as I couldnt,that he took him out. its jerks like that guy that have given blacks the bad rap they get.

Your friend sounds like an idiot. No wonder he is handicapped. Does he claim all Black men attacked him or just one?

put yourself in his shoes for a minute,you have never been almost mugged your whole life,the one time it happens,its by a black man..i cant blame him for feeling that way.not saying i would be like him myself and feel like that but i can understand his thinking though.

Your type of thinking is simple minded and purile. i was almost run off the road by 3 white boys and it never made me think all white people were like them.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

i have a friend who is handicapped and he now cant stand blacks.men anyways.He was walking outside his apartment and this black man tried to mug him.what was funny about it is my handicapped friend was able to take him out and got someone to call the cops on him and take him to jail.the police officer couldnt believe it either just as I couldnt,that he took him out. its jerks like that guy that have given blacks the bad rap they get.

Anyone believe this nut job has a friend?

your're the stupid nutjob.the one that slept through junior high school science classes.yeah dumbfuck,i just saw this thread that interested me and made that whole story up.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

i have a friend who is handicapped and he now cant stand blacks.men anyways.He was walking outside his apartment and this black man tried to mug him.what was funny about it is my handicapped friend was able to take him out and got someone to call the cops on him and take him to jail.the police officer couldnt believe it either just as I couldnt,that he took him out. its jerks like that guy that have given blacks the bad rap they get.

Your friend sounds like an idiot. No wonder he is handicapped. Does he claim all Black men attacked him or just one?

put yourself in his shoes for a minute,you have never been almost mugged your whole life,the one time it happens,its by a black man..i cant blame him for feeling that way.not saying i would be like him myself and feel like that but i can understand his thinking though.

Your type of thinking is simple minded and purile. i was almost run off the road by 3 white boys and it never made me think all white people were like them.

love how you shoot the messenger.i never said I would have his same thinking he does fool,but i try to put myself in his shoes and can at least understand where he is coming from.duh.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Just think about it. Not a single person wants to go outside being afraid of a police officer, thinking what to do or not to do in order to avoid police brutality. But why is it the blacks who are more afraid of the police, not the whites?

Oh I dont know

 

[ClosedCaption]

i have a friend who is handicapped and he now cant stand blacks.men anyways.He was walking outside his apartment and this black man tried to mug him.what was funny about it is my handicapped friend was able to take him out and got someone to call the cops on him and take him to jail.the police officer couldnt believe it either just as I couldnt,that he took him out. its jerks like that guy that have given blacks the bad rap they get.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Just think about it. Not a single person wants to go outside being afraid of a police officer, thinking what to do or not to do in order to avoid police brutality. But why is it the blacks who are more afraid of the police, not the whites?

Oh I dont know

Looks like there is 30 pictures there, and I'm willing to bet any amount of money that you would like that at MINIMUM 25 of those people were not murdered.

 

[ClosedCaption]

What's it about?

A culture that has had its values weakened to the point that a parent can't even dicipline a child without risking a visit from family services or police.
All & I mean ALL of our self inflicted social issues stem from childhood.

"It speaks to the notion that white violent behavior is not something talked about or stigmatized in the media or in mainstream society to extent that African-American rioting or looting behavior is," Wolcott said.

Pumpkin Fest was a dramatic version of that because of initial characterizations of crowd behavior as rowdy: vandalization of cars and streets signs, fighting police and setting fires in the streets. White people frequently get "rowdy" at sporting events or music festivals, but that behavior is not associated with the white community on the whole in the same way that instances of looting or vandalization tend to be associated with the black community, she said.

Why Pumpkin Fest riots are not like Ferguson - CNN.com