Conservative Hero James Comer Totally Exposed FBI By Refusing To See Documents He Requested

[Marener]

As I already noted, it is certainly possible that the Executive Branch might see the issued subpoena as an overreach. At that point, the proper legal response isn’t to ignore the subpoena or simply refuse to comply. The proper course is to contest it in court.

Says who?

 

[BackAgain]

Remember folks, this is just another clusterfuck thread by Biffy.

Very good and timely point.

 

[BackAgain]

Says who?

The law. You may have heard about it.

 

[struth]

James Comer Rejects FBI’s Offer To Show Him Documents He's Requesting In Biden Probe

The Oversight Committee chair doesn't just want to see the paperwork detailing a supposed bribery scheme — he wants to see it in his office. Why? Unclear.

www.huffpost.com

"House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) has refused an offer from the FBI to view documents he’s requesting as part of an investigation into President Joe Biden. On Wednesday, bureau Director Christopher Wray spoke by phone with Comer and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) about the paperwork — a form reflecting a tip to the FBI that allegedly implicates Biden in some kind of bribery scheme from his time as vice president. Afterward, Comer said in a statement that Wray “offered to allow us to see the documents in person at FBI headquarters,” but that seeing the material isn’t good enough — he wants to have the paperwork in his office.

Comer asked for the tip form earlier this month with a congressional subpoena. “Recording the information does not validate the information, establish its credibility, or weigh it against other information known or developed by the FBI,” wrote Christopher Dunham, the FBI’s acting assistant director for congressional affairs. If Republicans don’t receive the form, Comer said, they will move forward with a resolution to hold Wray in contempt of Congress. Republicans could file a lawsuit asking a court to enforce the subpoena - though the fact that the FBI has already shown a willingness to provide access to the material would likely hurt Republicans’ case in such a suit."


This was a brilliant and gutsy move by Rep. Comer....Raise hell about the FBI not allowing you to see documents, then when the FBI grants you access to those documents, raise hell about having to see those documents at a secured location instead of having them sent to you so you can make up what is in those documents. It is also a brilliant move to file contempt of Congress on Wray for not complying with a Congressional subpoena...anyone who refuses to comply with Congress' subpoena power needs to be locked and made an example of...as long as that Congress is GOP controlled of course.


But I do find it funny that Grassley basically comes out and admits that they are not concerned with finding out whether or not Biden actually committed a crime.....it's almost like he is admitting all of this is bullshit performance art just to entertain their ill-informed base.

Yeah, he wants the FBI to comply with the subpenoa...i get that bothers you.

From your own link: “anything short of producing these documents to the House Oversight Committee is not in compliance with the subpoena.” Comer.

Nice try by the dembot propagandist from the Huffington Post to spin the story...hey, they know their cult audience like yourself will eat it up

 

[Marener]

The law. You may have heard about it.

What law?

 

[struth]

Why do you folks keep dodging this??






Why doesn't Grassley care if the accusations are true or not? Why did he say "I don't know" when he had read the same documents they are asking for now?? Because they know morons like you love performance art..make-believe shit....because the facts and reality are seldom on your side....so yall keep playing dress up and fantasy games

why do you keep dodging the fact this is just another attempt by your propagandist to spin the fact the Xiden Admin is stonewalling and not comply with the legally authorized subpena?

 

[okfine]

James Comer Rejects FBI’s Offer To Show Him Documents He's Requesting In Biden Probe

The Oversight Committee chair doesn't just want to see the paperwork detailing a supposed bribery scheme — he wants to see it in his office. Why? Unclear.

www.huffpost.com

"House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) has refused an offer from the FBI to view documents he’s requesting as part of an investigation into President Joe Biden. On Wednesday, bureau Director Christopher Wray spoke by phone with Comer and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) about the paperwork — a form reflecting a tip to the FBI that allegedly implicates Biden in some kind of bribery scheme from his time as vice president. Afterward, Comer said in a statement that Wray “offered to allow us to see the documents in person at FBI headquarters,” but that seeing the material isn’t good enough — he wants to have the paperwork in his office.

Comer asked for the tip form earlier this month with a congressional subpoena. “Recording the information does not validate the information, establish its credibility, or weigh it against other information known or developed by the FBI,” wrote Christopher Dunham, the FBI’s acting assistant director for congressional affairs. If Republicans don’t receive the form, Comer said, they will move forward with a resolution to hold Wray in contempt of Congress. Republicans could file a lawsuit asking a court to enforce the subpoena - though the fact that the FBI has already shown a willingness to provide access to the material would likely hurt Republicans’ case in such a suit."


This was a brilliant and gutsy move by Rep. Comer....Raise hell about the FBI not allowing you to see documents, then when the FBI grants you access to those documents, raise hell about having to see those documents at a secured location instead of having them sent to you so you can make up what is in those documents. It is also a brilliant move to file contempt of Congress on Wray for not complying with a Congressional subpoena...anyone who refuses to comply with Congress' subpoena power needs to be locked and made an example of...as long as that Congress is GOP controlled of course.


But I do find it funny that Grassley basically comes out and admits that they are not concerned with finding out whether or not Biden actually committed a crime.....it's almost like he is admitting all of this is bullshit performance art just to entertain their ill-informed base.

"having them sent to you so you can make up what is in those documents"

What do you thinks the odds on that would be?

 

[struth]

This was already reviewed when Bill Barr was attorney general......the GOP is rehashing it because they know morons like you don't actually read nor care what is and isn't true

Link please....

 

[BackAgain]

What law?

I’d ask “are you serious?” But of course, you’re a mindless drone, so you probably don’t know.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/r/r45653

Also, just look at 2 U.S.C. Section 192.

Since I’m sure you’d be too lazy to actually look it up yourself, given your track record, I even quote it for you here:

Every person who having been summoned as a witness by the authority of either House of Congress to give testimony or to produce papers upon any matter under inquiry before either House, or any joint committee established by a joint or concurrent resolution of the two Houses of Congress, or any committee of either House of Congress, willfully makes default, or who, having appeared, refuses to answer any question pertinent to the question under inquiry, shall be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of not more than $1,000 nor less than $100 and imprisonment in a common jail for not less than one month nor more than twelve months.
(R.S. § 102; June 22, 1938, ch. 594, 52 Stat. 942.)

Yes. That makes it criminal statute.

 

[Marener]

I’d ask “are you serious?” But of course, you’re a mindless drone, so you probably don’t know.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/r/r45653

Also, just look at 2 U.S.C. Section 192.

Since I’m sure you’d be too lazy to actually look it up yourself, given your track record, I even quote it for you here:


Yes. That makes it criminal statute.

Congress does not have prosecutorial ability. The executive branch is extremely unlikely to prosecute itself, which is how every executive branch operates.

There’s nothing in here about the executive branch having to fight the subpoena in court.

In fact, the CRS notes that the only route Congress has is to sue the executive branch with civil contempt.

Your own link proves you wrong.

 

[BackAgain]

Congress does not have prosecutorial ability.

I don’t recall claiming they did. Of course.

The executive branch is extremely unlikely to prosecute itself, which is how every executive branch operates.

Yes. We know. And?

There’s nothing in here about the executive branch having to fight the subpoena in court.

Actually, you’re wrong again. If the refusal to comply with the law is presumptively criminal, then ordinarily one would go to court to assert the alleged legal basis for failure to comply — or risk being prosecuted.

In fact, the CRS notes that the only route Congress has is to sue the executive branch with civil contempt.

The branch? Yes. The individual contemporary? No.

By the way, there is a civil enforcement method, too. Tragically, perhaps, I doubt any Congress would manifest the mass to do it. I’d explain it to you, but it would also sail over your head.

Your own link proves you wrong.

No. In fact, it does the opposite of that. But I didn’t expect any honesty from you.

 

[Marener]

Yes. We know. And?

So we established that the executive branch is in no danger of being prosecuted criminally by itself.

Actually, you’re wrong again. If the refusal to comply with the law is presumptively criminal, then ordinarily one would go to court to assert the alleged legal basis for failure to comply — or risk being prosecuted.

There’s no such thing as “presumptively criminal”. You can be presumptive but the law is not.

“Or risk being prosecuted”.

There is no risk of being prosecuted so there’s no reason for them to go to court.

The branch? Yes. The individual contemporary? No.

By the way, there is a civil enforcement method, too. Tragically, perhaps, I doubt any Congress would manifest the mass to do it. I’d explain it to you, but it would also sail over your head.

The individual is acting in their official capacity so the lawsuit would be defended by the executed branch.

No. In fact, it does the opposite of that. But I didn’t expect any honesty from you.

Trump’s administration ignored loads of subpoenas from Congress. He never felt the need to take the issue to court. Your assertion that is how it’s supposed to be done is inconsistent with how it’s actually done by every administration.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Link please....

If you will dodge Grassley himself telling you this is bullshit; then you are a moron




You asking for a link is just something you folks say when yall haven't found a better way to deflect yet....

 

[struth]

If you will dodge Grassley himself telling you this is bullshit; then you are a moron




You asking for a link is just something you folks say when yall haven't found a better way to deflect yet....

he never said it was BS

as far as the link…yeah i didn’t expect yoj to actual support your parody

 

[BackAgain]

So we established that the executive branch is in no danger of being prosecuted criminally by itself.

We already knew this. It’s been crystal clear for many years.

There’s no such thing as “presumptively criminal”. You can be presumptive but the law is not.

Read the statute itself, you idiot. I did provide it for you. What do you imagine “shall be deemed guilty” means?

“Or risk being prosecuted”.

There is no risk of being prosecuted so there’s no reason for them to go to court.

That’s not entirely true. There is a risk. It’s just a small one. And there remains another enforcement mechanism, anyway.

The individual is acting in their official capacity so the lawsuit would be defended by the executed branch.

That’s generally the case. So what?

Trump’s administration ignored loads of subpoenas from Congress. He never felt the need to take the issue to court.

Yeah. And?

Your assertion that is how it’s supposed to be done is inconsistent with how it’s actually done by every administration.

You overstate your case, as usual.

After securing a citation, there are three avenues for Congress to enforce its resolution and ultimately seek a resolution:

1. Criminal contempt;
2. Civil contempt; and
3. Congress's inherent contempt powers.

Contempt of Congress: Process and Penalties - FindLaw

Individuals who refuse to cooperate with a Congressional investigation, either by refusing to testify or withholding subpoenaed documents, may be cited for contempt of Congress. Learn about the process and penalties for contempt of Congress, and more, at FindLaw's Legal System section.

www.findlaw.com

 

[Godboy]

James Comer Rejects FBI’s Offer To Show Him Documents He's Requesting In Biden Probe

The Oversight Committee chair doesn't just want to see the paperwork detailing a supposed bribery scheme — he wants to see it in his office. Why? Unclear.

www.huffpost.com

"House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) has refused an offer from the FBI to view documents he’s requesting as part of an investigation into President Joe Biden. On Wednesday, bureau Director Christopher Wray spoke by phone with Comer and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) about the paperwork — a form reflecting a tip to the FBI that allegedly implicates Biden in some kind of bribery scheme from his time as vice president. Afterward, Comer said in a statement that Wray “offered to allow us to see the documents in person at FBI headquarters,” but that seeing the material isn’t good enough — he wants to have the paperwork in his office.

Comer asked for the tip form earlier this month with a congressional subpoena. “Recording the information does not validate the information, establish its credibility, or weigh it against other information known or developed by the FBI,” wrote Christopher Dunham, the FBI’s acting assistant director for congressional affairs. If Republicans don’t receive the form, Comer said, they will move forward with a resolution to hold Wray in contempt of Congress. Republicans could file a lawsuit asking a court to enforce the subpoena - though the fact that the FBI has already shown a willingness to provide access to the material would likely hurt Republicans’ case in such a suit."


This was a brilliant and gutsy move by Rep. Comer....Raise hell about the FBI not allowing you to see documents, then when the FBI grants you access to those documents, raise hell about having to see those documents at a secured location instead of having them sent to you so you can make up what is in those documents. It is also a brilliant move to file contempt of Congress on Wray for not complying with a Congressional subpoena...anyone who refuses to comply with Congress' subpoena power needs to be locked and made an example of...as long as that Congress is GOP controlled of course.


But I do find it funny that Grassley basically comes out and admits that they are not concerned with finding out whether or not Biden actually committed a crime.....it's almost like he is admitting all of this is bullshit performance art just to entertain their ill-informed base.

Your an idiot. He literally said "sure, ill look at that document, but unless we get an unredacted version sent to Congress, we will charge you with contempt."

 

[marvin martian]

James Comer Rejects FBI’s Offer To Show Him Documents He's Requesting In Biden Probe

The Oversight Committee chair doesn't just want to see the paperwork detailing a supposed bribery scheme — he wants to see it in his office. Why? Unclear.

www.huffpost.com

"House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) has refused an offer from the FBI to view documents he’s requesting as part of an investigation into President Joe Biden. On Wednesday, bureau Director Christopher Wray spoke by phone with Comer and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) about the paperwork — a form reflecting a tip to the FBI that allegedly implicates Biden in some kind of bribery scheme from his time as vice president. Afterward, Comer said in a statement that Wray “offered to allow us to see the documents in person at FBI headquarters,” but that seeing the material isn’t good enough — he wants to have the paperwork in his office.

Comer asked for the tip form earlier this month with a congressional subpoena. “Recording the information does not validate the information, establish its credibility, or weigh it against other information known or developed by the FBI,” wrote Christopher Dunham, the FBI’s acting assistant director for congressional affairs. If Republicans don’t receive the form, Comer said, they will move forward with a resolution to hold Wray in contempt of Congress. Republicans could file a lawsuit asking a court to enforce the subpoena - though the fact that the FBI has already shown a willingness to provide access to the material would likely hurt Republicans’ case in such a suit."


This was a brilliant and gutsy move by Rep. Comer....Raise hell about the FBI not allowing you to see documents, then when the FBI grants you access to those documents, raise hell about having to see those documents at a secured location instead of having them sent to you so you can make up what is in those documents. It is also a brilliant move to file contempt of Congress on Wray for not complying with a Congressional subpoena...anyone who refuses to comply with Congress' subpoena power needs to be locked and made an example of...as long as that Congress is GOP controlled of course.


But I do find it funny that Grassley basically comes out and admits that they are not concerned with finding out whether or not Biden actually committed a crime.....it's almost like he is admitting all of this is bullshit performance art just to entertain their ill-informed base.

You looking to reel in some more of your fellow DemoKKKrat dummies? It's going to work brilliantly!

 

[marvin martian]

James Comer Rejects FBI’s Offer To Show Him Documents He's Requesting In Biden Probe

The Oversight Committee chair doesn't just want to see the paperwork detailing a supposed bribery scheme — he wants to see it in his office. Why? Unclear.

www.huffpost.com

"House Oversight Committee Chair James Comer (R-Ky.) has refused an offer from the FBI to view documents he’s requesting as part of an investigation into President Joe Biden. On Wednesday, bureau Director Christopher Wray spoke by phone with Comer and Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) about the paperwork — a form reflecting a tip to the FBI that allegedly implicates Biden in some kind of bribery scheme from his time as vice president. Afterward, Comer said in a statement that Wray “offered to allow us to see the documents in person at FBI headquarters,” but that seeing the material isn’t good enough — he wants to have the paperwork in his office.

Comer asked for the tip form earlier this month with a congressional subpoena. “Recording the information does not validate the information, establish its credibility, or weigh it against other information known or developed by the FBI,” wrote Christopher Dunham, the FBI’s acting assistant director for congressional affairs. If Republicans don’t receive the form, Comer said, they will move forward with a resolution to hold Wray in contempt of Congress. Republicans could file a lawsuit asking a court to enforce the subpoena - though the fact that the FBI has already shown a willingness to provide access to the material would likely hurt Republicans’ case in such a suit."


This was a brilliant and gutsy move by Rep. Comer....Raise hell about the FBI not allowing you to see documents, then when the FBI grants you access to those documents, raise hell about having to see those documents at a secured location instead of having them sent to you so you can make up what is in those documents. It is also a brilliant move to file contempt of Congress on Wray for not complying with a Congressional subpoena...anyone who refuses to comply with Congress' subpoena power needs to be locked and made an example of...as long as that Congress is GOP controlled of course.


But I do find it funny that Grassley basically comes out and admits that they are not concerned with finding out whether or not Biden actually committed a crime.....it's almost like he is admitting all of this is bullshit performance art just to entertain their ill-informed base.

Aaron Rupar? LOL!

He's such a well-documented liar, he's got his own Urban Dictionary entry. The definition actually describes you perfectly, too!

Urban Dictionary: rupar

A lying sack of shit who deceives people for a living, in the name of his political ideology. Every word that comes out of his mouth is a lie

www.urbandictionary.com

 

[struth]

We already knew this. It’s been crystal clear for many years.

Read the statute itself, you idiot. I did provide it for you. What do you imagine “shall be deemed guilty” means?

That’s not entirely true. There is a risk. It’s just a small one. And there remains another enforcement mechanism, anyway.

That’s generally the case. So what?

Yeah. And?

You overstate your case, as usual.

Contempt of Congress: Process and Penalties - FindLaw

Individuals who refuse to cooperate with a Congressional investigation, either by refusing to testify or withholding subpoenaed documents, may be cited for contempt of Congress. Learn about the process and penalties for contempt of Congress, and more, at FindLaw's Legal System section.

www.findlaw.com

it’s true but the issue is you’ll need a new executive branch to prosecute. It’s like when Holder became the first AG held in contempt for stonewalling the obama admin gun running scam, he wasn’t criminally prosecute because well…his doj wasn’t going to prosecute him

 

[blackhawk]

The FBI offered to let him see the document with redactions as history has shown us redacted documents are papers with a whole lot of stuff marked out and basically just a step above nothing.