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[MENTION=36528]cereal_killer[/MENTION]That is quite simply a lie. You will get banned for merely mentioning that Milk is a pederast if someone else says they admire him, etc. No one need specify that they think the fan bois is a pederast themselves, but you know that.
Its just one more of your queer lies and special treatment.
Really, 'cause you've done it like 4 times in the last 5 minutes.
Let me test your theory...
Harvey Milk was a pederast.
Now let's see if I get warned shall we?
Guys, the rules state this:
No Accusations of other members relating to bestiality or pedophilia.
Implying that a member supports pedophilia is the same as openly making that claim.
It's not rocket science.
You can say Harvey Milk was a pedophile.
You can not say or imply that a member here who speaks positively of Harvey Milk therefore supports pedophilia.
Any other questions - PM one of us. Let's get back on topic now.
Guys, the rules state this:
No Accusations of other members relating to bestiality or pedophilia.
Implying that a member supports pedophilia is the same as openly making that claim.
It's not rocket science.
You can say Harvey Milk was a pedophile.
You can not say or imply that a member here who speaks positively of Harvey Milk therefore supports pedophilia.
Any other questions - PM one of us. Let's get back on topic now.
The topic is whether or not gay marriage should be allowed in Oklahoma [or Utah, or California or...] As such, we need to be allowed the right and freedom to access ALL related material.
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Since he's dead and can't be prosecuted, his personal life is of no consequence to the strides he made for gays and lesbians. Thomas Jefferson owned other people and had affairs with married women and potentially the people he owned. That does not diminish his contributions to our Nation.
The lurid affairs of Alexander Hamilton (bribery too) do not take away from his accomplishments.
Since he's dead and can't be prosecuted, his personal life is of no consequence to the strides he made for gays and lesbians. Thomas Jefferson owned other people and had affairs with married women and potentially the people he owned. That does not diminish his contributions to our Nation.
The lurid affairs of Alexander Hamilton (bribery too) do not take away from his accomplishments.
Once again, Harvey Milk didn't invent the cotton gin or officiate as a US President. His notable and celebrated "accomplishments" were to be open about his queer sexuality while holding a public office: PERIOD. Those people you mentioned were not celebrated for their sexuality and I can guarantee you if the topic of their sexuality came up in any broad circle, their careers would've been over and they would have gone down in history as scoundrels. The KEY COMPONENT OF MY ARGUMENT IS THAT GAYS CELEBRATE AND PROMOTE HARVEY MILK'S SEXUALITY AND THE FACT THAT HE DIDN'T GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT.
THAT is why gays and lesbians chose him for their socio-sexual-political icon. I put hyphens between those words because you cannot separate them. There exists a written, published biography of Harvey Milk, authored by Milk's friend and accredited gay journalist Randy Shilts, that documents Harvey Milk's particular queer sexuality as being that of an aging serial sex predator of vulnerable teen orphaned boys on drugs.
I quote here directly from "The Mayor of Castro Street; The Life and Times of Harvey Milk" [page 180]
"Harvey Milk always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems".
The trouble is, that "young waifs with substance abuse problems" are the equivalent of drug rape, sodomy of a minor in Jack McKinley's case, sodomy with a mentally unstable person in Jack McKinley's case. And all three are felonies. Illustrating clearly why sexually abusing young vulnerable minds that are unstable is damaging and illegal, at least two of Milk's victims committed suicide. One on Milk's birthday. That last one Milk officiated as "father figure" to as he was sodomizing him until his shelf-life expired [around the time his victims aged to get body hair]. As Milk aged into his 40s, his "twinks" stayed the same age as he preyed on them one after another. Read his biography. It's all in there and worse..
The problem comes not just from Milk's unprosecuted, BUT ADMITTED & DOCUMENTED felonies. The problem comes from a cultural group called "LGBT' knowing about these unprosectued felonies and essentialy celebrating the fact that this predator of teens did not get caught or convicted.
That's what they celebrate.
Let that sink in for a minute. They celebrate that he was open about his sexuality and didn't get busted or suffer repurcussions for it. Let it sink way down deep...
Now, marriage automatically elevates someone to a top-tier consideration to adopt orphaned kids. That's one of the perks of the privelege of marriage. Marriage was formed as an institution for the benefit of children. CLEARLY there is a conflict of interest when you have a group of people giddy that their sex-perv lurker icon didn't get caught or punished for his sexual exploitation of orhpaned teens, very young, vulnerable people incapable of legal consent to sex, and their wanting the perks of marriage. ESPECIALLY the perk of preference to adopt orphans.
There is a conflict of interest and a clear and present threat of danger to orphaned children in the states where people who celebrate Harvey Milk as iconic of the social movement they belong to, are lining up to brow-beat the given state into access to marriage/orphaned kids.
Anyone who suppresses discussion of this problem is part of the problem.
You're really flailing around.
"But, but, but the children" has already failed in court.
he's dead ! somebody's obsessed and it's obvious who that is...You're really flailing around.
"But, but, but the children" has already failed in court.
Noted: Your trivializing people who emulate a minor teen orphan sex predator accessing orphans to adopt via that perk of marriage. ie: your trivializing reasonable potential to cause harm to adoptable orphans.
Noted: Your continued defense, implied, of the lifestyle of Harvey Milk...
You're really flailing around.
"But, but, but the children" has already failed in court.
Noted: Your trivializing people who emulate a minor teen orphan sex predator accessing orphans to adopt via that perk of marriage. ie: your trivializing reasonable potential to cause harm to adoptable orphans.
Noted: Your continued defense, implied, of the lifestyle of Harvey Milk...
That's what you do when you've been pwned in an argument.
It's also against the rules.
Why are you so obsessed with Harvey Milk?
You're really flailing around.
"But, but, but the children" has already failed in court.
Noted: Your trivializing people who emulate a minor teen orphan sex predator accessing orphans to adopt via that perk of marriage. ie: your trivializing reasonable potential to cause harm to adoptable orphans.
Noted: Your continued defense, implied, of the lifestyle of Harvey Milk...
Poor loons don't know when they're the object of fun and pity.
Why distract with another issue like that ? Can't yall stay on topic ? Matters not how far back one goes, but what matters is how people have brought this guy foward once they knew how he was, and then he is added into the glorification of something proudly, even though they knew how he was ? wow!You're really flailing around.
"But, but, but the children" has already failed in court.
Noted: Your trivializing people who emulate a minor teen orphan sex predator accessing orphans to adopt via that perk of marriage. ie: your trivializing reasonable potential to cause harm to adoptable orphans.
Noted: Your continued defense, implied, of the lifestyle of Harvey Milk...
If you have to go back 30 years to find a case to prove your point, and a weak one at that.
How is it that the young man Milk had a relationship at 17 was a "child", but Trayvon Martin was an adult thug who totally deserved to be shot?
Why distract with another issue like that ? Can't yall stay on topic ? Matters not how far back one goes, but what matters is how people have brought this guy foward once they knew how he was, and then he is added into the glorification of something proudly, even though they knew how he was ? wow!If you have to go back 30 years to find a case to prove your point, and a weak one at that.
How is it that the young man Milk had a relationship at 17 was a "child", but Trayvon Martin was an adult thug who totally deserved to be shot?
You say she makes a weak point, but you agree that she has a point, so good for you at being honest here on that note.
What would you call a 33-year-old man who both had and axiomatically acted upon a deviant sexual appetite for underage, drug-addicted, runaway boys? (No, not Jerry Sandusky.)
What would you call a man of whom, as regards sexual preference, his own friend and biographer confessed, “Harvey always had a penchant for young waifs with substance abuse problems”?
In a recent interview with OneNewsNow.com, I called this man “demonstrably, categorically an evil man based on his [statutory] rape of teenage boys.”
But you can call him Harvey Milk.
Harvey Milk’s only claim to fame is that he was the first openly homosexual candidate to be elected to public office (San Francisco city commissioner). His chief cause was to do away with the Judeo-Christian sexual ethic. In 1978 Milk was murdered over a non-related political dispute by fellow Democrat Dan White....
...Merriam Webster defines “pederast” as “one who practices anal intercourse especially with a boy.” It defines “statutory rape” as “the crime of having sex with someone who is younger than an age that is specified by law.”
Harvey Milk was both a pederast and, by extension, a statutory rapist. After I publicly addressed this objective reality in the above-mentioned interview, the liberal blogosphere reacted in, shall we say, an informatively defensive manner.
A Huffington Post headline screamed: “Harvey Milk Was An ‘Evil Man’ Who Raped Teenage Boys, Unworthy of Postage Stamp: Matt Barber.”
The always-amusing Right Wing Watch blog breathlessly posted my comments with the header: “Barber: ‘Harvey Milk Was Demonstrably, Categorically an Evil Man.’”
And so on.
Here’s what’s especially telling about their reaction. Not one of the dozen-or-more publications that reported on my comments even challenged their veracity. Not one attempted to refute or deny that Harvey Milk was, in fact, a pederast and a sexual predator.
That’s because they can’t.
One of Milk’s victims was a 16-year-old runaway from Maryland named Jack Galen McKinley. As previously mentioned, Milk had a soft spot in his, um, heart for teenage runaways. Motivated by an apparent quid pro quo of prurience, Milk plucked McKinley from the street.
Randy Shilts was a San Francisco Chronicle reporter and close friend to Harvey Milk. Though Shilts died of AIDS in 1994, he remains, even today, one of the most beloved journalists in the “LGBT” community.
Shilts was also Harvey Milk’s biographer. In his glowing book “The Mayor of Castro Street,” he wrote of Milk’s “relationship” with the McKinley boy: ” … Sixteen-year-old McKinley was looking for some kind of father figure. … At 33, Milk was launching a new life, though he could hardly have imagined the unlikely direction toward which his new lover would pull him.”
In a sane world, of course, the only direction his “new lover” should have pulled him was toward San Quentin. But, alas, today’s America – a burgeoning relativist land of make-believe – is anything but sane....
...Whereas McKinley, a disturbed runaway boy, desperately sought a “father figure” to provide empathy, compassion, wisdom and direction, he instead found Harvey Milk: a promiscuous sexual predator who found, in McKinley, an opportunity to satisfy a perverse lust for underage flesh.
Years later McKinley committed suicide. America honors a sexual predator on a postage stamp
