Breaking News Confirmed..Chinese read Clinton emails in real time

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That was a ton of verbiage, none of which backed your claim that ""The FBI has admitted several times the certainty that multiple foreign powers had access to the stupid ass server."

Did you notice that?
No I did not. Probably because my reading comprehension doesn't suck and I'm not allergic to facts and evidence that conflict with my pre-ordained opinions...

If you have "hostile actors" gaining access to Clinton Associates who were in regular connection to the Clinton server and assume that the hackers are not dense and stupid -- it's REQUIRED that you assume these same "hostile actors" would FLOCK to the Clinton server.. Because that was the ultimate hacking prize.. [...]
Your reading comprehension sucks, and you are allergic to facts and evidence that conflict with your preordained opinions.

Were it any different, you'd have realized (from your own link)...

Moreover, for truly sensitive data, the State Department does not use its own networks at all. It quietly uses a network run by one of the major intelligence agencies, according to officials familiar with the system.​

... and you'd also have realized why it is that just a minuscule portion of the emails on Clinton's "stupid ass server" contained (retroactively) classified information, and, once there, you'd have realized that this server never ever came close to being "the ultimate hacking prize." That's just hyperventilation feeding into the "emails! EMAILS!! EMAILS!!!" hysteria. Which, of course, always was, and still is, just a very goofy way to keep the deplorables agitated and distracted.
 

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Any link beside FOX? You know better then that OP especially for breaking news...




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Yeah. CSPan.. You want to go wading thru an hour of congress critters voguing for the cameras?

The IG report is real. The IG office forwarded the info to the FBI. Unfortunately, the FBI contact was Peter Strzok, who BURIED this (predictably). The FBI has admitted several times the certainty that multiple foreign powers had access to the stupid ass server. It's not new. What's new is how the FBI BURIED the lead.
Your claim, "The FBI has admitted several times the certainty that multiple foreign powers had access to the stupid ass server" is suspect, to put it charitably.

FBI rejects fringe report, promoted by Trump, that China hacked Hillary Clinton's emails

'The Daily Caller's story appears to have originated not with the Justice Department, but from a claim by Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, who said during a July House committee hearing that virtually all of Clinton's emails had been obtained by a "foreign entity." The source of his knowledge, Gohmert said, was a report produced by the Intelligence Community Inspector General, a CIA watchdog agency.


The Daily Caller did not confirm the existence of such a report, instead citing an anonymous former intelligence officer who it said had been briefed on what the ICIG report contained.


In pushing back on the Daily Caller's story, however, the FBI on Wednesday pointed to its own report, issued by the Justice Department Inspector General in June. That report said the "FBI investigation and its forensic analysis did not find evidence that Clinton's email server systems were compromised."'
You expect the FBI to turn itself in for suppressing what they knew about the Hillary server being compromised??? :auiqs.jpg:

This is not news. There are credible reports that the Comey's "non-indictment" indictment that he read to the world had different wording on the phrasing of whether her server had been compromised.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...omeys-remarks-on-clinton-probe-heavily-edited

WASHINGTON (AP) — A draft statement former FBI Director James Comey prepared in anticipation of concluding the Hillary Clinton email case without criminal charges was heavily edited to change the "tone and substance" of the remarks, a Republican senator said Thursday.

Some of the edits proposed to the May 2016 draft, obtained by The Associated Press, appear to soften the gravity of the bureau's findings.

Comey, for instance, initially wrote that the FBI believed that Clinton and her aides were "grossly negligent" in their handling of classified information, language also contained in the relevant criminal statute.

But the text was edited to say they were simply "extremely careless" in their use of a personal email server, a phrase Comey adopted for his July 5 public announcement that the FBI would not be recommending charges.

In addition, while Comey initially said it was "reasonably likely" that "hostile actors" had gained access to Clinton's email server, the text was edited to say that such an intrusion was "possible."

The original version noted that the FBI had worked with partners in the intelligence community to determine whether the server had been compromised. While it was unclear what significance this had, it was omitted from Comey's final text.

[[[flacaltenn-- maybe NOW we know who the "partners in the intelligence community were that Comey is referring to.. Could be a cover-thine-ass for the fact that the IGeneral INFORMED them of the "hostile actor" intrusions" and they chose to cover it up.. ]]]]

Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say

When the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said on Tuesday that his investigators had no “direct evidence” that Hillary Clinton’s email account had been “successfully hacked,” both private experts and federal investigators immediately understood his meaning: It very likely had been breached, but the intruders were far too skilled to leave evidence of their work.

Mr. Comey described, in fairly blistering terms, a set of email practices that left Mrs. Clinton’s systems wide open to Russian and Chinese hackers, and an array of others. She had no full-time cybersecurity professional monitoring her system. She took her BlackBerry everywhere she went, “sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries.” Her use of “a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent.”

“Reading between the lines and following Comey’s logic, it does sound as if the F.B.I. believes a compromise of Clinton’s email is more likely than not,” said Adam Segal, the author of “Hacked World Order,” who studies cyberissues at the Council on Foreign Relations. “Sophisticated attackers would have known of the existence of the account, would have targeted it and would not have been seen.”

Mr. Comey couched his concern on Tuesday by repeating the intelligence community’s favorite phrase — “we assess” — four times, but ultimately reached no hard-and-fast conclusion. “We assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal email account,” he said.

But Mr. Comey painted a different picture.

“Hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact,” he said.


And that would have meant that tracking the trail of electronic breadcrumbs back to her server would have been a pretty simple task. After that, their ability to break in would have been a mix of skill and luck, but they had plenty of time to get it right.

Hillary screwed up national security sixteen ways with her arrogance and paranoia. There's NO DOUBT if her prime correspondents were hacked that most of world's Intel orgs KNEW of the server and attacked it..
That was a ton of verbiage, none of which backed your claim that ""The FBI has admitted several times the certainty that multiple foreign powers had access to the stupid ass server."

Did you notice that?
No I did not. Probably because my reading comprehension doesn't suck and I'm not allergic to facts and evidence that conflict with my pre-ordained opinions...

If you have "hostile actors" gaining access to Clinton Associates who were in regular connection to the Clinton server and assume that the hackers are not dense and stupid -- it's REQUIRED that you assume these same "hostile actors" would FLOCK to the Clinton server.. Because that was the ultimate hacking prize..

You probably nodded off during the explanation of "having evidence of being hacked" and actually having the system invaded, pillaged, and removing the evidence.

With the servers NEVER BEING EXAMINED by US Intel, there are STILL TOOLS to examine the intrusions in real time from the collections data of the Intel Agencies that are ARCHIVED and can be analyzed AFTER the intrusions have occurred. This is why the OP story on the Intel Comm. IG report to the FBI is so entirely important.
You dim bulb, you said, "The FBI has admitted several times the certainty that multiple foreign powers had access to the stupid ass server."

That's bullshit.
 

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That was a ton of verbiage, none of which backed your claim that ""The FBI has admitted several times the certainty that multiple foreign powers had access to the stupid ass server."

Did you notice that?
No I did not. Probably because my reading comprehension doesn't suck and I'm not allergic to facts and evidence that conflict with my pre-ordained opinions...

If you have "hostile actors" gaining access to Clinton Associates who were in regular connection to the Clinton server and assume that the hackers are not dense and stupid -- it's REQUIRED that you assume these same "hostile actors" would FLOCK to the Clinton server.. Because that was the ultimate hacking prize.. [...]
Your reading comprehension sucks, and you are allergic to facts and evidence that conflict with your preordained opinions.

Were it any different, you'd have realized (from your own link)...

Moreover, for truly sensitive data, the State Department does not use its own networks at all. It quietly uses a network run by one of the major intelligence agencies, according to officials familiar with the system.​

... and you'd also have realized why it is that just a minuscule portion of the emails on Clinton's "stupid ass server" contained (retroactively) classified information, and, once there, you'd have realized that this server never ever came close to being "the ultimate hacking prize." That's just hyperventilation feeding into the "emails! EMAILS!! EMAILS!!!" hysteria. Which, of course, always was, and still is, just a very goofy way to keep the deplorables agitated and distracted.
His evidence included: reading between the lines, likelihoods, would haves, simple backtracking tasks, and more.

You'd think they'd know a witch hunt when they see it.
 

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Your claim, "The FBI has admitted several times the certainty that multiple foreign powers had access to the stupid ass server" is suspect, to put it charitably.

FBI rejects fringe report, promoted by Trump, that China hacked Hillary Clinton's emails

'The Daily Caller's story appears to have originated not with the Justice Department, but from a claim by Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, who said during a July House committee hearing that virtually all of Clinton's emails had been obtained by a "foreign entity." The source of his knowledge, Gohmert said, was a report produced by the Intelligence Community Inspector General, a CIA watchdog agency.


The Daily Caller did not confirm the existence of such a report, instead citing an anonymous former intelligence officer who it said had been briefed on what the ICIG report contained.


In pushing back on the Daily Caller's story, however, the FBI on Wednesday pointed to its own report, issued by the Justice Department Inspector General in June. That report said the "FBI investigation and its forensic analysis did not find evidence that Clinton's email server systems were compromised."'
In a way, you have to admire the goofs.

Clinton's email server was practically open to everyone, or so they claim, and thus it should be obvious that dozens of intelligence services practically owned it, along with, very likely, a host of more skillful hackers. That serves to demonstrate the egregiousness of Hillary's conduct.

Says the FBI: But we didn't find any evidence for a breach. Counter the goofs: But that's because all these hackers were so skillful, neither of them left a single trace behind. Which, if true, means there cannot be any evidence, hence the claims that there was a breach - let alone dozens of breaches - are based on hot air.

But yeah, "Crucify her (anyway)!"

But, you know, on the other side of that debate shows up that force of nature, that towering intellect and beacon of forensic cyber skills, the most sincere and hon. Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas. Makes you shake in your boots, that one.

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I see we still have utterly clueless posters still trying to pretend the FBI has credibility or something. lol what a hoot.
Do you think Trump has credibility?
Trump has nothing to do with Hillary's and Obama's criminal activities and national security violations they should sitting in prison for. Your rather dimwitted attempts at trying to deflect from that fact are pretty juvenile and amateurish. He has far more credibility than you or OldeEurope do, easily so.
Yeah, right. Hush Money is a real stand-up guy.
 

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His evidence included: reading between the lines, likelihoods, would haves, simple backtracking tasks, and more.

You'd think they'd know a witch hunt when they see it.
All fortified against any and all counter-arguments by claims to some expertise or other (I forgot). So, you lose.

Of course they know it. A witch hunt is exactly what they want. You have to understand, though... They've been promised a barbecue since times immemorial, and as of yet it's been purely vegan all the time. Imagine the enormity of their disappointment. So it's getting harder and harder to keep them deplorables... salivating.
 

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Yeah. CSPan.. You want to go wading thru an hour of congress critters voguing for the cameras?

The IG report is real. The IG office forwarded the info to the FBI. Unfortunately, the FBI contact was Peter Strzok, who BURIED this (predictably). The FBI has admitted several times the certainty that multiple foreign powers had access to the stupid ass server. It's not new. What's new is how the FBI BURIED the lead.
Your claim, "The FBI has admitted several times the certainty that multiple foreign powers had access to the stupid ass server" is suspect, to put it charitably.

FBI rejects fringe report, promoted by Trump, that China hacked Hillary Clinton's emails

'The Daily Caller's story appears to have originated not with the Justice Department, but from a claim by Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, who said during a July House committee hearing that virtually all of Clinton's emails had been obtained by a "foreign entity." The source of his knowledge, Gohmert said, was a report produced by the Intelligence Community Inspector General, a CIA watchdog agency.


The Daily Caller did not confirm the existence of such a report, instead citing an anonymous former intelligence officer who it said had been briefed on what the ICIG report contained.


In pushing back on the Daily Caller's story, however, the FBI on Wednesday pointed to its own report, issued by the Justice Department Inspector General in June. That report said the "FBI investigation and its forensic analysis did not find evidence that Clinton's email server systems were compromised."'
You expect the FBI to turn itself in for suppressing what they knew about the Hillary server being compromised??? :auiqs.jpg:

This is not news. There are credible reports that the Comey's "non-indictment" indictment that he read to the world had different wording on the phrasing of whether her server had been compromised.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...omeys-remarks-on-clinton-probe-heavily-edited

WASHINGTON (AP) — A draft statement former FBI Director James Comey prepared in anticipation of concluding the Hillary Clinton email case without criminal charges was heavily edited to change the "tone and substance" of the remarks, a Republican senator said Thursday.

Some of the edits proposed to the May 2016 draft, obtained by The Associated Press, appear to soften the gravity of the bureau's findings.

Comey, for instance, initially wrote that the FBI believed that Clinton and her aides were "grossly negligent" in their handling of classified information, language also contained in the relevant criminal statute.

But the text was edited to say they were simply "extremely careless" in their use of a personal email server, a phrase Comey adopted for his July 5 public announcement that the FBI would not be recommending charges.

In addition, while Comey initially said it was "reasonably likely" that "hostile actors" had gained access to Clinton's email server, the text was edited to say that such an intrusion was "possible."

The original version noted that the FBI had worked with partners in the intelligence community to determine whether the server had been compromised. While it was unclear what significance this had, it was omitted from Comey's final text.

[[[flacaltenn-- maybe NOW we know who the "partners in the intelligence community were that Comey is referring to.. Could be a cover-thine-ass for the fact that the IGeneral INFORMED them of the "hostile actor" intrusions" and they chose to cover it up.. ]]]]

Hillary Clinton’s Email Was Probably Hacked, Experts Say

When the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, said on Tuesday that his investigators had no “direct evidence” that Hillary Clinton’s email account had been “successfully hacked,” both private experts and federal investigators immediately understood his meaning: It very likely had been breached, but the intruders were far too skilled to leave evidence of their work.

Mr. Comey described, in fairly blistering terms, a set of email practices that left Mrs. Clinton’s systems wide open to Russian and Chinese hackers, and an array of others. She had no full-time cybersecurity professional monitoring her system. She took her BlackBerry everywhere she went, “sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries.” Her use of “a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent.”

“Reading between the lines and following Comey’s logic, it does sound as if the F.B.I. believes a compromise of Clinton’s email is more likely than not,” said Adam Segal, the author of “Hacked World Order,” who studies cyberissues at the Council on Foreign Relations. “Sophisticated attackers would have known of the existence of the account, would have targeted it and would not have been seen.”

Mr. Comey couched his concern on Tuesday by repeating the intelligence community’s favorite phrase — “we assess” — four times, but ultimately reached no hard-and-fast conclusion. “We assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal email account,” he said.

But Mr. Comey painted a different picture.

“Hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact,” he said.


And that would have meant that tracking the trail of electronic breadcrumbs back to her server would have been a pretty simple task. After that, their ability to break in would have been a mix of skill and luck, but they had plenty of time to get it right.

Hillary screwed up national security sixteen ways with her arrogance and paranoia. There's NO DOUBT if her prime correspondents were hacked that most of world's Intel orgs KNEW of the server and attacked it..
That was a ton of verbiage, none of which backed your claim that ""The FBI has admitted several times the certainty that multiple foreign powers had access to the stupid ass server."

Did you notice that?
No I did not. Probably because my reading comprehension doesn't suck and I'm not allergic to facts and evidence that conflict with my pre-ordained opinions...

If you have "hostile actors" gaining access to Clinton Associates who were in regular connection to the Clinton server and assume that the hackers are not dense and stupid -- it's REQUIRED that you assume these same "hostile actors" would FLOCK to the Clinton server.. Because that was the ultimate hacking prize..

You probably nodded off during the explanation of "having evidence of being hacked" and actually having the system invaded, pillaged, and removing the evidence.

With the servers NEVER BEING EXAMINED by US Intel, there are STILL TOOLS to examine the intrusions in real time from the collections data of the Intel Agencies that are ARCHIVED and can be analyzed AFTER the intrusions have occurred. This is why the OP story on the Intel Comm. IG report to the FBI is so entirely important.
You dim bulb, you said, "The FBI has admitted several times the certainty that multiple foreign powers had access to the stupid ass server."

That's bullshit.
Twice in the material I quoted Comey admitted to the LIKELY probability of hostile power intrusions. The FIRST was found to be edited out in his public Hillary impeachment -- non-impeachment. And the 2nd was when he positively asserted that many clinton assoc with records of the Clinton server on their machines had INDEED been hacked by foreign actors. As to the 2nd admission, he did not elaborate on the CONSEQUENCES of that, but anyone familiar with cyber security issues and foreign Intel operations can SAFELY leap to the assumption that those foreign actors would JUMP on the bigger prize. Which was the real time, on-line, work product of a careless, lazy ass, American Sec State who had no respect for national security.

And that's what's in this IG report from the Intel Comm in the OP story. That SPECIFICALLY the FBI was informed by Amer. Intel collections that REAL TIME compromise of the CLinton server was accomplished by the Chinese.

She leaks seven ways from Sunday and never paid a price. Yet...
 

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Give it a rest Trumpbots...you are beating a dead horse.
 

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That was a ton of verbiage, none of which backed your claim that ""The FBI has admitted several times the certainty that multiple foreign powers had access to the stupid ass server."

Did you notice that?
No I did not. Probably because my reading comprehension doesn't suck and I'm not allergic to facts and evidence that conflict with my pre-ordained opinions...

If you have "hostile actors" gaining access to Clinton Associates who were in regular connection to the Clinton server and assume that the hackers are not dense and stupid -- it's REQUIRED that you assume these same "hostile actors" would FLOCK to the Clinton server.. Because that was the ultimate hacking prize.. [...]
Your reading comprehension sucks, and you are allergic to facts and evidence that conflict with your preordained opinions.

Were it any different, you'd have realized (from your own link)...

Moreover, for truly sensitive data, the State Department does not use its own networks at all. It quietly uses a network run by one of the major intelligence agencies, according to officials familiar with the system.​

... and you'd also have realized why it is that just a minuscule portion of the emails on Clinton's "stupid ass server" contained (retroactively) classified information, and, once there, you'd have realized that this server never ever came close to being "the ultimate hacking prize." That's just hyperventilation feeding into the "emails! EMAILS!! EMAILS!!!" hysteria. Which, of course, always was, and still is, just a very goofy way to keep the deplorables agitated and distracted.
How do you suppose that classified info from Clinton's server ended up on Anthony Weiner's computer?
 

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That was a ton of verbiage, none of which backed your claim that ""The FBI has admitted several times the certainty that multiple foreign powers had access to the stupid ass server."

Did you notice that?
No I did not. Probably because my reading comprehension doesn't suck and I'm not allergic to facts and evidence that conflict with my pre-ordained opinions...

If you have "hostile actors" gaining access to Clinton Associates who were in regular connection to the Clinton server and assume that the hackers are not dense and stupid -- it's REQUIRED that you assume these same "hostile actors" would FLOCK to the Clinton server.. Because that was the ultimate hacking prize.. [...]
Your reading comprehension sucks, and you are allergic to facts and evidence that conflict with your preordained opinions.

Were it any different, you'd have realized (from your own link)...

Moreover, for truly sensitive data, the State Department does not use its own networks at all. It quietly uses a network run by one of the major intelligence agencies, according to officials familiar with the system.​

... and you'd also have realized why it is that just a minuscule portion of the emails on Clinton's "stupid ass server" contained (retroactively) classified information, and, once there, you'd have realized that this server never ever came close to being "the ultimate hacking prize." That's just hyperventilation feeding into the "emails! EMAILS!! EMAILS!!!" hysteria. Which, of course, always was, and still is, just a very goofy way to keep the deplorables agitated and distracted.
How do you suppose that classified info from Clinton's server ended up on Anthony Weiner's computer?

Putin put it there!!!!
 

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Your claim, "The FBI has admitted several times the certainty that multiple foreign powers had access to the stupid ass server" is suspect, to put it charitably.

FBI rejects fringe report, promoted by Trump, that China hacked Hillary Clinton's emails

'The Daily Caller's story appears to have originated not with the Justice Department, but from a claim by Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, who said during a July House committee hearing that virtually all of Clinton's emails had been obtained by a "foreign entity." The source of his knowledge, Gohmert said, was a report produced by the Intelligence Community Inspector General, a CIA watchdog agency.


The Daily Caller did not confirm the existence of such a report, instead citing an anonymous former intelligence officer who it said had been briefed on what the ICIG report contained.


In pushing back on the Daily Caller's story, however, the FBI on Wednesday pointed to its own report, issued by the Justice Department Inspector General in June. That report said the "FBI investigation and its forensic analysis did not find evidence that Clinton's email server systems were compromised."'
In a way, you have to admire the goofs.

Clinton's email server was practically open to everyone, or so they claim, and thus it should be obvious that dozens of intelligence services practically owned it, along with, very likely, a host of more skillful hackers. That serves to demonstrate the egregiousness of Hillary's conduct.

Says the FBI: But we didn't find any evidence for a breach. Counter the goofs: But that's because all these hackers were so skillful, neither of them left a single trace behind. Which, if true, means there cannot be any evidence, hence the claims that there was a breach - let alone dozens of breaches - are based on hot air.

But yeah, "Crucify her (anyway)!"

But, you know, on the other side of that debate shows up that force of nature, that towering intellect and beacon of forensic cyber skills, the most sincere and hon. Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas. Makes you shake in your boots, that one.

.
I see we still have utterly clueless posters still trying to pretend the FBI has credibility or something. lol what a hoot.
Do you think Trump has credibility?
Trump has nothing to do with Hillary's and Obama's criminal activities and national security violations they should sitting in prison for. Your rather dimwitted attempts at trying to deflect from that fact are pretty juvenile and amateurish. He has far more credibility than you or OldeEurope do, easily so.
Yeah, right. Hush Money is a real stand-up guy.
Once again, since you're incapable of honesty or even admitting the obvious, Trump is not responsible for the criminal acts of Hillary, Kerry, Podesta, Obama, Meuller, and Comey.
 

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