Concentration Camp in Gaza?

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I often don't agree with George Galloway (YouTube), but his discussion about an Israeli "concentration camp" in South Gaza piqued my interest in terms of an overall settlement strategy. The underlying idea is to vet peaceful Gazans into a safe area while completing the destruction of Hamas infrastructure in the rest of the region. The refusal of other countries to accept them as refugees makes this a minimally plausible alternative, as long as it can be d one for a short period of time.

A complementary plan could be effectuated in North Gaza, along the lines of Trump's rebuilding ideas. In that event, existing buildings could be torn down and replaced with modern industrial, commercial and residential structures. Again, peaceful Gazans would be invited to live and work in these areas, albeit at a greatly improved economic standard. This might be accomplished through private development contracts without the appearance of military intervention.

I wonder of either of these plans would be acceptable to the people of Gaza. Could economic benefits overcome the quasi-religious ideology of revenge against historical enemies? Your thoughts?
 
For what it is worth, this is what my Israeli friends have been suggesting as a "day after plan" since shortly after the October War began.


Edited to add: For clarity, my Israeli friends are NOT calling for a "concentration camp" or any mistreatment of the people of Gaza. They are calling for an mutually beneficial re-building plan jointly managed by the people of Gaza and individual Israeli businesses, NGOs, and other partnerships, leading to peaceful relations between the two peoples without terror and violence.
 
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I often don't agree with George Galloway (YouTube), but his discussion about an Israeli "concentration camp" in South Gaza piqued my interest in terms of an overall settlement strategy. The underlying idea is to vet peaceful Gazans into a safe area while completing the destruction of Hamas infrastructure in the rest of the region. The refusal of other countries to accept them as refugees makes this a minimally plausible alternative, as long as it can be d one for a short period of time.

A complementary plan could be effectuated in North Gaza, along the lines of Trump's rebuilding ideas. In that event, existing buildings could be torn down and replaced with modern industrial, commercial and residential structures. Again, peaceful Gazans would be invited to live and work in these areas, albeit at a greatly improved economic standard. This might be accomplished through private development contracts without the appearance of military intervention.

I wonder of either of these plans would be acceptable to the people of Gaza. Could economic benefits overcome the quasi-religious ideology of revenge against historical enemies? Your thoughts?
All of this presumes once Hamas is gone, the rest of the Palestinians would want to live in peace with Israel, but the facts don't support this idea. There are no Palestinian leaders who advocate for peace with Israel, and there is no evidence any significant number of Palestinians support living in peace with Israel.

For Israel, the top priority is peace and safety from Palestinian attacks, and given the present reality of Palestinian culture and politics, I can't see any other way to achieve it than for Israel to control, occupy if you will, Gaza for an indefinite time, or for the Palestinians to relocate elsewhere. To that end, Israel cannot have European NGO's or the international community, whatever that is, or the UN running around Gaza prioritizing the welfare of the Palestinians over Israel's security.

If peace with the Palestinians is to come, it will have to be preceded by a restructuring of Palestinian culture and politics so that the Palestinian people come to see the benefits of peace with Israel as more desirable than futile dreams and efforts of defeating Israel, but this would be a multigenerational project, so for the present, Israel must either control Gaza or the Palestinians must relocate.
 
All of this presumes once Hamas is gone, the rest of the Palestinians would want to live in peace with Israel, but the facts don't support this idea. There are no Palestinian leaders who advocate for peace with Israel, and there is no evidence any significant number of Palestinians support living in peace with Israel.

For Israel, the top priority is peace and safety from Palestinian attacks, and given the present reality of Palestinian culture and politics, I can't see any other way to achieve it than for Israel to control, occupy if you will, Gaza for an indefinite time, or for the Palestinians to relocate elsewhere. To that end, Israel cannot have European NGO's or the international community, whatever that is, or the UN running around Gaza prioritizing the welfare of the Palestinians over Israel's security.

If peace with the Palestinians is to come, it will have to be preceded by a restructuring of Palestinian culture and politics so that the Palestinian people come to see the benefits of peace with Israel as more desirable than futile dreams and efforts of defeating Israel, but this would be a multigenerational project, so for the present, Israel must either control Gaza or the Palestinians must relocate.
I wonder if an "Iron Lid" could be placed over Gaza that would prevent any missile attacks?
 
For what it is worth, this is what my Israeli friends have been suggesting as a "day after plan" since shortly after the October War began.


Edited to add: For clarity, my Israeli friends are NOT calling for a "concentration camp" or any mistreatment of the people of Gaza. They are calling for an mutually beneficial re-building plan jointly managed by the people of Gaza and individual Israeli businesses, NGOs, and other partnerships, leading to peaceful relations between the two peoples without terror and violence.


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....mutually beneficial re-building plan jointly managed by the people of Gaza and individual Israeli businesses, NGOs, and other partnerships, leading to peaceful relations....

I've read of numerous instances in which Jewish humanitarian groups and individuals have attempted to get food, medicine and other badly needed supplies to Gaza's men, women and children sometimes at significant risk from violent and militant Settlers.

Therefore it seems entirely possible that the same sort of generous and compassionate Jews can do the same thing on a larger scale. (1)

I have never believed the frequently held notion that:
"It's hopeless, those people have been fighting since the beginning of time."

Before the invasion of foreign, extremest Zionist terrorist gangs, Haganah, Irgun etc, native Palestinian Jews and Palestine's Arabs / Muslims were willing to share the land and its few resources with each other. (2)

I was not at all surprised to read that Jews and Muslims have closely lived, worked, studied and celebrated together before and I fully believe that there is enough good will in both communities for that to be possible again.

Finally, it is naive to believe that all reciprocal hostilities can be immediately erased just as opposition can be expected from extremists on both sides but the greater the misery of Gaza's starving, traumatized and tormented residents, the greater the global anti Israel / anti Jewish sentiment.

It is in everyone's best interest to relieve the misery in Gaza.

Thanks,


(1). "Jewish Donors Raise Unprecedented Funds for Humanitarian Aid to People in Gaza"​


EXCERPT "The New Israel Fund (NIF) has raised three quarters of a million dollars globally over the last month from more than 2,500 grassroots donors to help feed innocent people living in Gaza. Starting just before the holiday of Passover, thousands of donors from the United States, Israel, Canada, the U.K. and Germany gave in unprecedented numbers to NIF’s campaign.

This is the first time that NIF has raised, and distributed, this level of funding for programs outside of Israel." CONTINUED


(2). “Before Zionism: The shared life of Jews and Palestinians”


EXCERPT “He quotes the memoirs of Ya’akov Elazar from Jerusalem, who remembers how “the Muslim women cooperated respectfully with the customs of the Jewish religion.…the Muslim neighbors allowed the Jewish women to pump water necessary before the Sabbath.”

Klein also describes how some Muslims even joined their Jewish neighbors in reciting religious prayers.

He describes the cheder (a traditional elementary school where the basics of Judaism and the Hebrew language were taught) run by Hacham Gershon in the neighborhood of Sheikh Jarrah, where Arab parents brought their children so that they would learn how to behave properly.

Klein also writes that sexual relations and marriages between Jews and Arabs were not unheard of, even if they were not considered legitimate.” CONTINUED
 
We need to put an "Iron Condom" on Israel so they don't catch anything in Gaza.


Just use one of the condoms you've got after a vigorous "session" with your inflatable Netanyahu sex doll.

Please wash that nasty thing sometime.

Thanks,
 
I was not at all surprised to read that Jews and Muslims have closely lived, worked, studied and celebrated together before and I fully believe that there is enough good will in both communities for that to be possible again.
It has always been possible. One has only to look at Israel.

But Hamas and the ideology which underpins Hamas has be eliminated for it to become a reality.
 
All of this presumes once Hamas is gone, the rest of the Palestinians would want to live in peace with Israel, but the facts don't support this idea. There are no Palestinian leaders who advocate for peace with Israel, and there is no evidence any significant number of Palestinians support living in peace with Israel.

For Israel, the top priority is peace and safety from Palestinian attacks, and given the present reality of Palestinian culture and politics, I can't see any other way to achieve it than for Israel to control, occupy if you will, Gaza for an indefinite time, or for the Palestinians to relocate elsewhere. To that end, Israel cannot have European NGO's or the international community, whatever that is, or the UN running around Gaza prioritizing the welfare of the Palestinians over Israel's security.

If peace with the Palestinians is to come, it will have to be preceded by a restructuring of Palestinian culture and politics so that the Palestinian people come to see the benefits of peace with Israel as more desirable than futile dreams and efforts of defeating Israel, but this would be a multigenerational project, so for the present, Israel must either control Gaza or the Palestinians must relocate.
In your small mind, you think you can massacre hundreds of thousands and then expect them to live in peace.

Your brain is malfunctioning.
 
It has always been possible. One has only to look at Israel.

But Hamas and the ideology which underpins Hamas has be eliminated for it to become a reality.
Your murderous genocide likely only creates more terrorism against Israelis.
 

Concentration Camp in Gaza?​


No one wants to see Gazans concentrated anywhere … disperse them as far away from Israel as possible.

The Moon perhaps?
 
No one wants to see Gazans concentrated anywhere … disperse them as far away from Israel as possible.

The Moon perhaps?
Oh come on. You’d much rather see them all eliminated. Do you want this too for blacks, Mexicans, and Jews?
 
In your small mind, you think you can massacre hundreds of thousands and then expect them to live in peace.

Your brain is malfunctioning.
So now you are agreeing with me that the only way Israel can defend itself against attacks from the Palestinians is to maintain control over Gaza, and you are encouraging the very war you are complaining about.
 
So now you are agreeing with me that the only way Israel can defend itself against attacks from the Palestinians is to maintain control over Gaza, and you are encouraging the very war you are complaining about.
You’re so dumb you think committing genocide is defense.

Can’t fix a Nazi Zionist traitor.
 
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There will be some "technical errors" where the concentration camp is bombed no doubt.
 
For what it is worth, this is what my Israeli friends have been suggesting as a "day after plan" since shortly after the October War began.


Edited to add: For clarity, my Israeli friends are NOT calling for a "concentration camp" or any mistreatment of the people of Gaza. They are calling for an mutually beneficial re-building plan jointly managed by the people of Gaza and individual Israeli businesses, NGOs, and other partnerships, leading to peaceful relations between the two peoples without terror and violence.
Gaza is another killing field, and Netanyahu's propaganda machine can't disguise it.

60,000 Gazans have been killed. 18,500 were children.

These are their names.

Some were killed in their beds. Others while playing. Many were buried before they learned to walk.
Gaza is the most dangerous place in the world to be a child, according to the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF).
Palestinian children have been killed at a rate of more than one child per hour during the war. “Consider that for a moment. A whole classroom of children killed, every day for nearly two years,” UNICEF Executive Director Catherine Russell told the U.N. Security Council this month...
 
Gaza is another killing field, and Netanyahu's propaganda machine can't disguise it.

60,000 Gazans have been killed. 18,500 were children.

These are their names.

Some were killed in their beds. Others while playing. Many were buried before they learned to walk.
Gaza is the most dangerous place in the world to be a child, according to the United Nations Children’s Fund (UNICEF).
Palestinian children have been killed at a rate of more than one child per hour during the war. “Consider that for a moment. A whole classroom of children killed, every day for nearly two years,” UNICEF Executive Director Catherine Russell told the U.N. Security Council this month...

Your point is? That it's horrific? Yes, it is.
 
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