CDZ Collusion question

[miketx]

I ask again, why is this accusation in the clean debate zone?

Could it be that it's here to be discussed civilly? Something that is difficult even here, and nearly impossible elsewhere on this board. Just a thought.

Just because you have nothing to debate/discuss about it, does not mean that there is nothing to be debated/discussed. I think the OP layed out a line of discussion quite clearly. If you missed it see post #1.

Your continued infatuation with why it's here instead of the elsewhere, suggests, to me, that you see no way of discussing it in a civil manner. If that is the case, why are YOU here? Seems to me it would be a colossal waste of your time.

Then he probably should have started with something other than an unsubstantiated accusation.

No allegation was made. I simply stated that if true, surely some democrat would have spilled the beans. They have a track record you know.

 

[Syriusly]

Seriously, with the Russian collusion "investigation" ongoing, so to speak, and with what we have seen in general of the swamp in Washington, if any collusion existed, wouldn't some democrat have already leaked the path to its proof?

Not everyone is like the Republican's in the House or Trump's administration.

Mueller's investigation has been pretty leak free so far.

I look forward to the conclusion of the investigation and hopefully the conclusion will be that there was no collusion.

 

[Syriusly]

I ask again, why is this accusation in the clean debate zone?

Could it be that it's here to be discussed civilly? Something that is difficult even here, and nearly impossible elsewhere on this board. Just a thought.

Just because you have nothing to debate/discuss about it, does not mean that there is nothing to be debated/discussed. I think the OP layed out a line of discussion quite clearly. If you missed it see post #1.

Your continued infatuation with why it's here instead of the elsewhere, suggests, to me, that you see no way of discussing it in a civil manner. If that is the case, why are YOU here? Seems to me it would be a colossal waste of your time.

Then he probably should have started with something other than an unsubstantiated accusation.

No allegation was made. I simply stated that if true, surely some democrat would have spilled the beans. They have a track record you know.

Actually the track record on leaking is heavily from within the Administration. The Republicans in the House probably come in second.

 

[Leo123]

This is wandering into team worship/conspiracy theory land.

My guess is we're gonna find some Trump boys got all excited and met with russian mobster types but they never wrote a check to any KGB employees. Trump says plenty of ridiculous things so we won't be able to prove he was signaling Russians or anything like that.

We'll also "find out" Donald paid off some porn stars he grabbed or slept with but is that really more surprising than if he did not? Look at his trophy wife collection. Bill Clinton would be proud (gotta be bi partisan because the only reason this matters is because of all the flack Bill took).

Off-topic, but all that crap (Whitewater investigation) was unnecessary and a big waste of taxpayer dollars.

Yeah Comey let Hillary off so there would be no 'there' there.

 

[jwoodie]

First, the word you are looking for is "conspiracy".

Second, why do you assume Mueller leaks just because your team can't keep a secret for 5 minutes in an empty room?

Third this doesn't belong in the clean debate room, there is no debate. Only and accusation.

1. What conspiracy? Who is accused of doing what?

2. Irrelevant deflection.

3. Excellent analysis of the Mueller investigation.

1. tRump and co. are accused of conspiring with the Russian government to affect the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Where have you been?

2. Nothing irrelevant about it. Why do you assume Mueller and his crew leak in the face of convincing evidence that they don't? Is it just you projection your sides faults onto him?

3. This is the "irrelevant deflection". I ask again, why is this accusation in the clean debate zone?

1, Who is making this accusation? Where is this stated?

2. Whether "your team" can keep a secret is irrelevant to whether "Mueller and his crew" leak information. What convincing evidence proves they don't?

3. I ask again who is making this accusation, and what evidence supports it?

 

[miketx]

I ask again, why is this accusation in the clean debate zone?

Could it be that it's here to be discussed civilly? Something that is difficult even here, and nearly impossible elsewhere on this board. Just a thought.

Just because you have nothing to debate/discuss about it, does not mean that there is nothing to be debated/discussed. I think the OP layed out a line of discussion quite clearly. If you missed it see post #1.

Your continued infatuation with why it's here instead of the elsewhere, suggests, to me, that you see no way of discussing it in a civil manner. If that is the case, why are YOU here? Seems to me it would be a colossal waste of your time.

Then he probably should have started with something other than an unsubstantiated accusation.

No allegation was made. I simply stated that if true, surely some democrat would have spilled the beans. They have a track record you know.

Actually the track record on leaking is heavily from within the Administration. The Republicans in the House probably come in second.

Can we see your proof of that?

 

[Picaro]

This is wandering into team worship/conspiracy theory land.

My guess is we're gonna find some Trump boys got all excited and met with russian mobster types but they never wrote a check to any KGB employees. Trump says plenty of ridiculous things so we won't be able to prove he was signaling Russians or anything like that.

We'll also "find out" Donald paid off some porn stars he grabbed or slept with but is that really more surprising than if he did not? Look at his trophy wife collection. Bill Clinton would be proud (gotta be bi partisan because the only reason this matters is because of all the flack Bill took).

Well, the Democrats are quite open about their agenda; they even named it. It's called 'The Resistance', and it is a purely obstructionist agenda. you can pretend it's not a 'conspiracy', but we all know better and it's no secret; they are deliberately lying, and using their buddies in govt. offices and the Legislature to deliberately file fake charges, use the Courts for oppression and intimidation, and withholding evidence, etc. Many of their own actions re Russia and many other countries are clearly criminal and amount to treason, a lot more genuine evidence for their criminality and obviously after some two years zero against Trump. We can all do the math on this, even if you avoid facing up to it.

 

[Picaro]

I ask again, why is this accusation in the clean debate zone?

Could it be that it's here to be discussed civilly? Something that is difficult even here, and nearly impossible elsewhere on this board. Just a thought.

Just because you have nothing to debate/discuss about it, does not mean that there is nothing to be debated/discussed. I think the OP layed out a line of discussion quite clearly. If you missed it see post #1.

Your continued infatuation with why it's here instead of the elsewhere, suggests, to me, that you see no way of discussing it in a civil manner. If that is the case, why are YOU here? Seems to me it would be a colossal waste of your time.

Then he probably should have started with something other than an unsubstantiated accusation.

No allegation was made. I simply stated that if true, surely some democrat would have spilled the beans. They have a track record you know.

Actually the track record on leaking is heavily from within the Administration. The Republicans in the House probably come in second.

Can we see your proof of that?

Of course not.

 

[miketx]

And now, as i'm sure others have noticed, they gave 5 criminals immunity to get them to talk. Sounds legit.

 

[Picaro]

And now, as i'm sure others have noticed, they gave 5 criminals immunity to get them to talk. Sounds legit.

Yes, it's magical; looked a lot like intimidating people into perjuring themselves, i.e. extortion, to us 'conspiracy theorists', though.

And, so far, their testimony as expected, has been worthless and obviously scripted.

 

[Syriusly]

And now, as i'm sure others have noticed, they gave 5 criminals immunity to get them to talk. Sounds legit.

Which 5 criminals did they give immunity to?

Imagine giving immunity to witnesses- that is of course unheard of in prosecutions......

Ex-Trump Adviser Flynn Seeks Immunity Before Testifying On Russia Contacts

 

[Syriusly]

This is wandering into team worship/conspiracy theory land.

My guess is we're gonna find some Trump boys got all excited and met with russian mobster types but they never wrote a check to any KGB employees. Trump says plenty of ridiculous things so we won't be able to prove he was signaling Russians or anything like that.

We'll also "find out" Donald paid off some porn stars he grabbed or slept with but is that really more surprising than if he did not? Look at his trophy wife collection. Bill Clinton would be proud (gotta be bi partisan because the only reason this matters is because of all the flack Bill took).

Well, the Democrats are quite open about their agenda; they even named it. It's called 'The Resistance', and it is a purely obstructionist agenda. you can pretend it's not a 'conspiracy', but we all know better and it's no secret; they are deliberately lying, and using their buddies in govt. offices and the Legislature to deliberately file fake charges, use the Courts for oppression and intimidation, and withholding evidence, etc. Many of their own actions re Russia and many other countries are clearly criminal and amount to treason, a lot more genuine evidence for their criminality and obviously after some two years zero against Trump. We can all do the math on this, even if you avoid facing up to it.

Exactly how did the Democrats arrange to have a Republican appointed to lead this investigation, by a Republican, who was appointed by Donald Trump?

We can all do the math- and your post contains zero added to zero- which is still zero.

But good job of parroting what Don the Con tells you to parrot.

 

[Picaro]

This is wandering into team worship/conspiracy theory land.

My guess is we're gonna find some Trump boys got all excited and met with russian mobster types but they never wrote a check to any KGB employees. Trump says plenty of ridiculous things so we won't be able to prove he was signaling Russians or anything like that.

We'll also "find out" Donald paid off some porn stars he grabbed or slept with but is that really more surprising than if he did not? Look at his trophy wife collection. Bill Clinton would be proud (gotta be bi partisan because the only reason this matters is because of all the flack Bill took).

Well, the Democrats are quite open about their agenda; they even named it. It's called 'The Resistance', and it is a purely obstructionist agenda. you can pretend it's not a 'conspiracy', but we all know better and it's no secret; they are deliberately lying, and using their buddies in govt. offices and the Legislature to deliberately file fake charges, use the Courts for oppression and intimidation, and withholding evidence, etc. Many of their own actions re Russia and many other countries are clearly criminal and amount to treason, a lot more genuine evidence for their criminality and obviously after some two years zero against Trump. We can all do the math on this, even if you avoid facing up to it.

Exactly how did the Democrats arrange to have a Republican appointed to lead this investigation, by a Republican, who was appointed by Donald Trump?

We can all do the math- and your post contains zero added to zero- which is still zero.

But good job of parroting what Don the Con tells you to parrot.

Parrot troll snivels and calls others 'parrots'. Troll can't refute facts, yet gets to spam the CDZ, as if we don't have enough Village Idiots posting in the CDZ already.

 

[Toronado3800]

It's a meddling investigation. No it's interference. No it's collusion. No it's a Michael Cohen investigation. No it's a porn star investigation. No wait it's......

Exactly. Ita a lot of stuff focusing on a man who is good at riding the edge of the law and decency.

They probably aren't gonna send him to jail.

This probably somehow isn't gonna end his marriage.

Who am I talking about? Bill Clinton?

Nope, Donald Trump.

Guess those of you all who bashed Clinton for 20 years but are defending Trump now are gonna just sign the "I'm a hypocrite" document with your past posts. Or maybe come clean and admit you support whatever your team does? Or accept the check and keep on posting?

So no input on the OP?

Oh, I already gave that back at #6:
"This is wandering into team worship/conspiracy theory land.

My guess is we're gonna find some Trump boys got all excited and met with russian mobster types but they never wrote a check to any KGB employees. Trump says plenty of ridiculous things so we won't be able to prove he was signaling Russians or anything like that.

We'll also "find out" Donald paid off some porn stars he grabbed or slept with but is that really more surprising than if he did not? Look at his trophy wife collection. Bill Clinton would be proud (gotta be bi partisan because the only reason this matters is because of all the flack Bill took)."

Its pretty similar to what I responded with.

These investigators are gonna dig around a bit. Heck, they might even catch one of the boys actually breaking a law few ppl care about. Then just like last time the ACLU will come in and get the crook off on some technicality Oliver North - Wikipedia.

My prediction is AT WORST for Donald some tapes about him paying off porn stars will surface and we'll find out he paid off half the ones he's slept with but half the ones he's paid off he didn't sleep with making him look vulnerable and foolish. We'll probably also see some shady dealings but nothing illegal. The folks who dislike him will bring them up for decades every time someone brings up Hillary's shady dealings and the rest of us will be able to tell who the party cheerleaders are.

And here I thought liberals were all the rage about what people did behind there bedroom doors was no ones business? I still say, besides all the drift, that if there was anything to this bogus witch hunt some dem would have leaked it all out.

We're all gonna get together one day and agree!

i thought the Conservatives were the ones who cared who ppl had sex with after they bought a wedding cake?

Really in some ways the parties are getting closer. Remember when sex was a big deal? How about smoking pot? We're getting there.

 

[Bush92]

The very question of collusion between Trump campaign and Russia =

 

[miketx]

And now, as i'm sure others have noticed, they gave 5 criminals immunity to get them to talk. Sounds legit.

Which 5 criminals did they give immunity to?

Imagine giving immunity to witnesses- that is of course unheard of in prosecutions......

Ex-Trump Adviser Flynn Seeks Immunity Before Testifying On Russia Contacts

Giving immunity to five criminals in the same case I think is unheard of. Sounds legit.

 

[miketx]