Divine Wind
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What does this have to do with our nation's intelligence agencies? Every one of the items you mentioned were done at the direction of POTUS and the consent of Congress.
CIA Concludes Russia Interfered In Election To Help Trump Win
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Didn't this get posted here? I thought I saw it earlier.
US Govt Data Shows Russia Used Outdated Ukrainian PHP Malware
Malware Conclusions
DHS and DNI have released a joint statement that says:
“This document provides technical details regarding the tools and infrastructure used by the Russian civilian and military intelligence Services (RIS) to compromise and exploit networks and endpoints associated with the U.S. election, as well as a range of U.S. Government, political, and private sector entities. The report contains specific indicators of compromise, including IP addresses and a PHP malware sample.”
The PHP malware sample they have provided appears to be P.A.S. version 3.1.0 which is commonly available and the website that claims to have authored it says they are Ukrainian. It is also several versions behind the most current version of P.A.S which is 4.1.1b. One might reasonably expect Russian intelligence operatives to develop their own tools or at least use current malicious tools from outside sources....................
Conclusion regarding IP address data
What we’re seeing in this IP data is a wide range of countries and hosting providers. 15% of the IP addresses are Tor exit nodes. These exit nodes are used by anyone who wants to be anonymous online, including malicious actors.
Overall Conclusion
The IP addresses that DHS provided may have been used for an attack by a state actor like Russia. But they don’t appear to provide any association with Russia. They are probably used by a wide range of other malicious actors, especially the 15% of IP addresses that are Tor exit nodes.
The malware sample is old, widely used and appears to be Ukrainian. It has no apparent relationship with Russian intelligence and it would be an indicator of compromise for any website.
You can find a public repository containing the data used in this report on github.
I know very little about this stuff so I wonder if it's legit? Time will tell of course.
Greg
US Govt Data Shows Russia Used Outdated Ukrainian PHP Malware
Malware Conclusions
DHS and DNI have released a joint statement that says:
“This document provides technical details regarding the tools and infrastructure used by the Russian civilian and military intelligence Services (RIS) to compromise and exploit networks and endpoints associated with the U.S. election, as well as a range of U.S. Government, political, and private sector entities. The report contains specific indicators of compromise, including IP addresses and a PHP malware sample.”
The PHP malware sample they have provided appears to be P.A.S. version 3.1.0 which is commonly available and the website that claims to have authored it says they are Ukrainian. It is also several versions behind the most current version of P.A.S which is 4.1.1b. One might reasonably expect Russian intelligence operatives to develop their own tools or at least use current malicious tools from outside sources....................
Conclusion regarding IP address data
What we’re seeing in this IP data is a wide range of countries and hosting providers. 15% of the IP addresses are Tor exit nodes. These exit nodes are used by anyone who wants to be anonymous online, including malicious actors.
Overall Conclusion
The IP addresses that DHS provided may have been used for an attack by a state actor like Russia. But they don’t appear to provide any association with Russia. They are probably used by a wide range of other malicious actors, especially the 15% of IP addresses that are Tor exit nodes.
The malware sample is old, widely used and appears to be Ukrainian. It has no apparent relationship with Russian intelligence and it would be an indicator of compromise for any website.
You can find a public repository containing the data used in this report on github.
I know very little about this stuff so I wonder if it's legit? Time will tell of course.
Greg
AvgGuyIA
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If you think the worst candidate for President in HISTORY lost because of Putin, you're delusional. Every conservative in America came out to vote to prevent her from winning and that includes democrats, because she is a ******* crook and security threat.
Andylusion
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Yes, many people especially on the left, can't even begin to accept the fact, people hated Hillary.
Hillary was literally loathed. They despised her. In 2000, when Hillary ran for the New York Senate seat, a guy in Upper Arlington Ohio, put a massive banner across his yard "NO HILLARY!".
That's how much people hated that evil criminal trash. A guy two states away, was putting up anti-Hillary signs.
Worse, the fact everyone hated Hillary would have been obvious to everyone. Think about it.... in 2008, a virtually unknown Obama, came out of nowhere, and completely smashed Hillary out of the DNC nomination.
Then in 2016, a 300 year old mummified communist, came out of no where, that no one had ever heard of, and came really close to knocking Hillary out of the nomination again.
What big sign that people hate her could you possibly get?
Remember last year when Hillary went to meet the US Women's Soccer team? She was talking about equal pay, women's rights, gender discrimination, and on and on.
The Wall Street Journal ran the headline:
"Hillary Clinton Joins U.S. Women’s Soccer Player in Call for Equal Pay
Democratic candidate reminds voters of her wage-equality efforts at event with Megan Rapinoe"
Remember this? Well, as is my custom, I was listening to the BBC. The reported on this event as well, but unlike the US media which clapped their hands, and went on to the next campaign stop, the BBC actually interviewed the Women's Soccer Team. Less than half the team said they would vote for Hillary.
Less than half.
Only 50% of college educated women, reported voting for Hillary after the election.
Hillary was a pile of poo, and everyone knew it but the media themselves.
easyt65
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Russian government hackers do not appear to have targeted Vermont utility, say people close to investigation
Another myth / lie busted...
Another myth / lie busted...
Andylusion
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Just to be fair.... To be FAIR..... The Russians are not teenage noobs putting out scripting bugs, just to see if they can get in the news.
Meaning, the entire purpose of Russian malware is to conceal it's origin.
That is to say, they would design the entire malware package to route information in such a way as to make it exceptionally difficult to find the end point.
Think about it like the Mafia making a phone call (prior to cell phones). The godfather blaw blaw blaw, wouldn't make a call to a hitman from his home phone.
He would call billy, who would come get a note, to take to danny, who uses a payphone to call bill, who goes to the local pub and scratches out a few works on a napkin he hands to bob, who finds someone to do the deed.
Well computer networks are very similarly. You could have it routed to an server in Canada, which bounces it off a university in Kansas, that pings a library in Mexico, that sends it across to Europe and then to Russia.
When you say the "IP address has no relation to Russia", the answer is, well duh. Of course not.
The Russians are not going to create a Malware package, that has the address of the Kremlin right in their hard code, and send it to the US State Department.
Come on... let's not underestimate our opponents.
At the same time, the media has been over anxious to come to a verdict, when no absolute judgement can be made. At least not any time in the near future.
I was thinking about how we could possibly deal with this problem, and the solution was a slap in the face. It's so obvious, and yet it would still be difficult.
All we need to do, is have the computer wizards create a reverse malware kit. It's so simple, the existing malware would do the trick, but slimmed down to only send back location and ownership data.
We don't have to create a system to send the malware either. We don't have to come up with a way to trick the other people.
All you do, is find a system they have infiltrate with their malware. Shut the system down, replace all the super sensitive documents, with our own malware. Turn the system back on. It operates normally, they see the system online, and access it. They steal the documents using their malware.
But when they open it, it's just empty documents, or fabricated documents. That installs our malware, which sends back where the computer is, and any ownership data the operating system has.
No matter how sophisticated their system is, or how many fake IPs they use, or how many different ways they route the traffic, in the end our malware would send back the information about where they are, and what they were doing.
This would ultimately work for every malware in existence, that forwards documents back to an external source.
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funny
EverCurious
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A Trojan horse virus. Alas, it's not so simple. Even /if/ we could piggy back a modified code to existing malware, the chances of them running their own malware on their systems is about nill. If someone creates a malware that has a feedback to them, they don't even run it, they just go retrieve the data dump (which in itself is very likely to be a cloaked end point that's bounced 6 ways to Tuesday.) There is almost no limit to how many IP bounces you want to make out there. Hell I have to go through like 10 just to get to Google...
PS you can try it yourself: start -> run -> type "cmd" (no quotes) -> hit enter -> type in "ping google.com" (without quotes, and you can do any site you want) -> hit enter
PS you can try it yourself: start -> run -> type "cmd" (no quotes) -> hit enter -> type in "ping google.com" (without quotes, and you can do any site you want) -> hit enter
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Divine Wind
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Gathering intell is one thing, but seeking to harm another nation by actively using that intell is a hostile act.
The LWLs and RWNJs will flip-flop on their positions when Wikileaks suddenly starts releasing the intell gathered off of Republican servers.
"The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment...."
/----- Not much of a secret, eh Libtard? BWHAHAHAAAHAHA
EverCurious
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They didn't "use" any intel that I've seen, even if you want to pin it on the Russians (which I am highly dubious on) all they did was hand it over to Wikileaks. Wikileaks are the ones who decided what to put it out and when. they said it was because they had to fact check everything; which I do believe, but I'm not going to deny that I also believe Mendax wanted to stop Hillary from becoming president either heh
Divine Wind
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Time will tell. I'm looking forward to a very interesting 2017.
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I dont think I agree with that 100%
lets put the same basic concept to work in your or anyone elses live at a personal level.
Lets say someone comes home from work one day expecting to have the kids run up and greet them, give hugs, they are expecting like every other day to smell dinner cooking, and to have their wife come out of the kitchen to give them a hug and ask how their day was. But one day what they walk into is a murder scene, wife and kids are dead. blood everywhere.
no leads as far as who did it.
then a few months later, someone hacked the next door neighbors computer and came across picture and or video of them committing the murders.
Now lets say this neighbor is running for some public office. Would you rather the video and photos be hidden or do you think that its more important for this evidence to be made public.
As far as how I would feel about this if the Republicans were the ones being hacked. it would be the same in my eyes. Knowing what they had done would be very important when it came to deciding who to trust in office.
I dont like the idea or practice of hacking, however I do think that it is important that information about misconduct is made public.
The whole idea behind making this about Russia trying to sway the vote with the information is in my opinion, nothing more that a way for the left to try and get peoples minds off of what Hillary had done. The outrage over the hacking is nothing more than an attempt at damage control.
EverCurious
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And that is the conundrum of whistleblowers - are they criminals or are they doing a public service?
EverCurious
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Its 17 not 18 - These 17 Agencies Make Up The Most Sophisticated Spy Network In The World
Unless you want to count private entities like Crowdstrike (which they kind of do) in which case there's 20 or so that have publicly given their opinion that Guccifer 2.0, Fuzzy Bear, and Cozy Bear are Russian Government
Unless you want to count private entities like Crowdstrike (which they kind of do) in which case there's 20 or so that have publicly given their opinion that Guccifer 2.0, Fuzzy Bear, and Cozy Bear are Russian Government
easyt65
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Ok, when are these SEVENTEEN (17) Obama agencies (or Obama) going to release any definitive evidence?
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