"Christian Guilt and IGNORANCE" and "Abrahamic Religions Guilt" and a Plan to Save The World?

[DennisPTate]

The Prophet Hosea was given a statement that I believe can be turned into an outreach by the three major "Abrahamic Religions" to all eight billion infinitely valuable humans who live on earth in 2026.

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
Because you have rejected knowledge,
I also will reject you from being priest for Me;
Because you have forgotten the law of your God,
I also will forget your children." [Hosea 4:6]

My Theology Professor Kevin L. Zadai has stated that his Theology Professor near death experiencer Kenneth Hagin, stated emphatically that IF there is a major problem in the USA, it is "The Churches Fault" due to our NOT praying for elected officials and Americas most influential leaders with zeal, with humility, and with a hunger for righteousness to be put into each and every one of us, beginning with Me, Myself and I!

Kenneth Hagin’s Near-Death Experience​

BY KEVIN WILLIAMSPOSTED ON SEPTEMBER 26, 2019

1. About Rev. Kenneth Hagin​

Rev. Kenneth Hagin (1917-2003) thought that by the time he was nine he had done all that was necessary to get a place in heaven. He was born and raised a Southern Baptist. As a child, he first made his commitment to Christ and was baptized with water. He was a lifelong member of the church. In Christian circles, he was “saved” and on the path for heaven. He was a believer and follower of Jesus Christ and he knew this assured him a place in heaven. He even believed that Jesus and all his disciples were Southern Baptists. But it came as a real shock to him when he found out that they weren’t. At the age of 15, Kenneth had a near-death experience resulting from a malformed heart – a condition he was born with.

2. Rev. Kenneth Hagin’s NDE​

Kenneth Hagin was the pastor of Rhema Bible Church and the Kenneth Hagin Ministries which publishes the Word of Faith Magazine. The following is an excerpt of his near-death experience as described in his book, I Believe in Visions, by Rev. Kenneth Hagin.

My heart stopped beating. This numbness spread to my feet, my ankles, my knees, my hips, my stomach, my heart and I leaped out of my body.

I did not lose consciousness; I leaped out of my body like a diver would leap off a diving board into a swimming pool. I knew I was outside my body. I could see my family in the room, but I couldn’t contact them.

I began to descend down, down, into a pit, like you’d go down into a well, cavern or cave. And I continued to descend. I went down feet first. I could look up and see the lights of the Earth. They finally faded away. Darkness encompassed me round about – darkness that is blacker than any night man has ever seen.

The farther down I went, the darker it became – and the hotter it became – until finally, way down beneath me, I could see fingers of light playing on the wall of darkness. And I came to the bottom of the pit.

The Dr. Kenneth Hagin near death experience is rather scary and not quite as fun and positive and joyful as many near death experiences are but what he reports fits perfectly with what was shown to Police Officer and Pastor Howard Pittman during his 1979 brush with death.

Pastor Howard Pittman was shown that only about two and a half percent of citizens of the USA as of 1979 could go immediately into heaven at the time of their deaths.

No I personally am very positive about all of this because my belief is that if I can find a flaw in myself and in my group of people that is leading to bigger problems in this world then all of a sudden this admission of "Guilt" on my part give me and my group of people both power as well as the responsibility to do something about the big problems facing all eight billion infinitely valuable and precious people on this earth.

Baptist Pastor Howard Pittman was shown that his own church approached "salvation" in a way that led Baptists to believe that they were automatically saved and were going to heaven even if they were NOT developing a day to day and even moment to moment relationship with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and with The Holy Spirit that Jesus sent to all of His people in all of the earth.



Howard Pittman's Near Death Experience

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In 2015 Pastor Mark sat down with Howard Pittman and heard firsthand his near death experience. Howard shared what he experienced at the point of death when his spirit left his body and he crossed over into the spiritual realm. While having this experience Howard was taken by angels and given a tour of Satan's kingdom in the 2nd heaven. He also came the entrance of heaven and had a life changing conversation with God. We hope you are impacted by this testimony and that you are made even more aware of the reality of the spiritual realm all around us. Chapters
00:00 - Pastor Mark's Intro
01:54 - The day Howard died
07:58 - Dying and entering a world of darkness (The Veil)
08:33 - Scripture coming out of the darkness
09:47 - Facing the realization of death
10:55 - The most beautiful voice in the world
13:08 - The Veil 13:52 - Satan's table/Satanic planning/Principalities
15:45 - Satan's master plan (Rev. 13:7-9)
17:32 - Spiritual warfare
19:38 - Hate and Fear
20:11 - Satan's ability
22:33 - Giant warring order of Demons
23:18 - Traveling to the Gates of Heaven
24:50 - Your Faith is Dead...
27:18 - The Compassion of God
28:34 - The 5 point message for the Church
32:47 - 97% of people going to Hell
34:32 - Tour of the 2nd Heaven

My firm belief as of today December 25, 2025 is that Satan wants Christians, Jews and Muslims to be convinced that we are doing spectacular so that we will become "lukewarm" in our approach to praying for the God of Abraham, Creator of Heaven and Earth, to show us our errors and misunderstandings and lack of wisdom and knowledge so that we approach others from the point of view of PRIDE and self-righteousness, so that this world is NOT given an outpouring of the Holy Spirit on all flesh that the allegorical Bride of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, [who is known to Muslims as The Prophet Isa, Shalom be upon Him], has the spiritual AUTHORITY to ask for and receive from heaven!


It is my belief that near death experience accounts can spiritually wake up all Christians, all Jews, and all sincere Muslims who engage in OUTREACH to others!

I personally hear Matthew chapter four in the seven minute near death experience account of former Atheist and Orthodox Jewish Rabbi Alon Anava. In his teachings since his 2001 brush with death I hear Matthew chapters five, six and seven, The Sermon on the Mount by Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus.

I would love to convince all Christians and all Muslims to listen to the NDE account of Rabbi Alon Anava because every word that he says is indeed true. Rabbi Alon Anava has a "Mantle of Cyrus" though and I believe is being led powerfully by the Prophet Isa, by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus on a moment to moment basis.


www.AlonAnava.com/





It is my belief that the near death experience account of former Atheist Rabbi Alon Anava can lead to the defeat of IGNORANCE of the Genius Master Plan that the God of Abraham, the Creator of heaven and earth, is working out here on this earth.

About Rabbi Anava​

Rabbi Alon Anava was born and raised in Israel. He grew up in Ra’anana in a very secular family without any Torah education or knowledge. He grew up hating religion and anything that had to do with it. He did not believe in G-od and the Torah and lived life as a secular Jew. In 1998, he moved to New York and soon after, on a very special day, the morning of Passover 2001 he had a Near Death Experience due to a sudden cardiac arrest. This event has changed his life for the GOOD!!!

Before his life-altering experience, Alon would describe himself as simply put, ‘not a nice guy..’ but after facing death, and realizing the purpose of life, Alon transformed his very being and since then dedicates his life to serving G-od and Torah observance. Soon After his Near Death Experience he diligently attended Yeshiva studying every day, exploring the depths of Torah, refining and elevating himself on a daily basis for over a decade. Rabbi Alon Anava attended his Rabbinical studies at Yeshivah Kol Ya’akov – Hadar Hatorah in Brooklyn, New York.

After seven years of Yeshivah studies, Rabbi Anava started sharing his Near Death Experience with the public lecturing all around the world at Schools, Synagogues, Yeshivahs, outreach programs and organizations, private sessions and much more, reaching tens of thousands of people at over 2,500 lectures in the past fifteen years. In the past 8 years Rabbi Anava has expanded his out reach efforts through the internet reaching tens of thousands of people resulting with over 500,000 followers worldwide on the internet and social networks. With over 25,000,000 views to his videos, over 1,000,000 DVDs and CDs distributed, his followers enjoy daily Torah studying on his websites, social networks, videos, podcasts, live streaming and live Torah classes and lectures. Rabbi Anava’s followers enjoy his undivided attention through daily phone calls, skype meetings, personal and group meetings along with coaching and assistance. Rabbi Anava and his wife opens their home for hundreds of guests that enjoy their warm and loving hospitality and uplifting Shabbat and holiday meals.

Alon has come back with a gift. He is able to connect to our creator in a very intimate way, allowing him to also connect intimately with others and really help them overcome their questions and concerns and lead and teach them to the right path of Torah observance.

Alon devotes his life to spreading G-od wisdom by teaching Torah every day at lectures, seminars, home gatherings, schools etc., and sharing his personal life changing experience all over the world. He spends his time sharing his story in an attempt to make it as real for you as it is for him. Our hope is that you as the listener will absorb Alon’s story and wake up to the reality of this world. We hope that you will have the strength within you to rise above what seems like the prevailing darkness and choose light. We encourage you to connect to your maker and begin your spiritual journey to better yourself and humanity as a whole. We encourage you to see the miracle of you!

I have a powerful feeling that Rabbi Alon Anava could be the one who may fulfill a critical role predicted in Zechariah chapter three.

1Then he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the Angel of the Lord, and Satan standing at his right hand to oppose him. 2And the Lord said to Satan, “The Lord rebuke you, Satan! The Lord who has chosen Jerusalem rebuke you! Is this not a brand plucked from the fire?”
3Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and was standing before the Angel.
4Then He answered and spoke to those who stood before Him, saying, “Take away the filthy garments from him.” And to him He said, “See, I have removed your iniquity from you, and I will clothe you with rich robes.”
5And I said, “Let them put a clean turban on his head.”
So they put a clean turban on his head, and they put the clothes on him. And the Angel of the Lord stood by.
The Coming Branch
6Then the Angel of the Lord admonished Joshua, saying, 7“Thus says the Lord of hosts:
‘If you will walk in My ways,
And if you will keep My command,
Then you shall also judge My house,
And likewise have charge of My courts;
I will give you places to walk
Among these who stand here.
8‘Hear, O Joshua, the high priest,
You and your companions who sit before you,
For they are a wondrous sign;
For behold, I am bringing forth My Servant the BRANCH.
9For behold, the stone
That I have laid before Joshua:
Upon the stone are seven eyes.
Behold, I will engrave its inscription,’
Says the Lord of hosts,
‘And I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
10In that day,’ says the Lord of hosts,
‘Everyone will invite his neighbor
Under his vine and under his fig tree.’ ”

Zechariah 3 | NKJV Bible | YouVersion

Vision of the High PriestThen he showed me #Ezra 5:2; Hag. 1:1; Zech. 6:11Joshua the high priest standing before the Angel of the Lord, and # Chr. 21:1; Job 1:6; Ps. 109:6; (Rev. 12:9, 10)Satan standi

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Rabbi Alon Anava's lecture in Las Vegas will give you a good idea as to why I feel that he could be the one who fulfills the role of a modern High Priest and teacher to all nations.

Rabbi Alon Anava is live!​

 

[DennisPTate]

I Plead Guilty!

I know that I know that I know that I personally do NOT care about the salvation and the "immortal human spirit or soul" of certain people in any way shape or form in a manner that could be compared with my concern for my own salvation, the eternal fate of my own soul or spirit! I am supposed to love others as I love myself, but I know that I simply have NOT been doing that.

I know that I know that I personally do not care about Ms. Hillary Clinton, anything like Messiah Yeshua - Jesus does.

Yes, I have prayed for her and her ex-husband to be led to repentance but, I know that my concern for the leaders on the political left is only a tiny fraction of the way that Messiah Yeshua - Jesus, feels and thinks about them.

I know that I am supposed to pray and offer up intercession and supplication, with real intensity for:
1. Bill Gates
2. Mr. Elon Musk
3. George Soros
4. Barack Obama
5. Joe Biden
6. Hunter Biden
7. Al Gore
8. Claus Schwaub
9. The eight thousand five hundred wealthiest and most influential people on earth who form, to at least some degree the group of people who Rabbi Alon Anava refers to as "The Eruv Rav." Sir Winston Churchill referred to the London based version of that same group of people as "The High Cabal."


IF THE HOLY SPIRIT IS POURED OUT ON SOME OF the baddest people on earth at this time then this earth will go into what could come to be termed "The Great Wealth Transfer from The Wicked To the Righteous." Yes, there need to be indictments related to The Epstein List, because in a way Satan has been setting up a "Judas Betrayal Power Ritual' as Satan drives dozens, then hundreds, then thousand and thousand of the leading "LUCIFERIANS" to follow the example of former Satanist and Evangelist John Ramirez, who in my opinion has became more like a modern Apostle Paul, than just about any Christian Evangelist that I can think of, [with the possible exception of John's friend near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai Th. D. who I have taken over two hundred online courses from].

In my opinion the gifted Pastor Rick Joyner showed me what was wrong with me personally, as well as the error that my own people are falling into with the following book:

[Pastor Rick Joyner, "The Final Quest] "

he Evil Army

I saw a demonic army so large that it stretched as far as I could see. It was separated into divisions, with each carrying a different banner. The foremost and most powerful divisions were Pride, Self righteousness, Respectability, Selfish Ambition, and Unrighteous Judgment, but the largest of all was Jealousy. The leader of this vast army was the Accuser of the Brethren himself. I knew that there were many more evil divisions beyond my scope of vision, but these were the vanguard of this terrible horde from hell that was now being released against the church.

The weapons carried by this horde had names on them: the swords were named Intimidation; the spears were named Treachery; and their arrows were named Accusations, Gossip, Slander and Faultfinding. Scouts and smaller companies of demons with such names as Rejection, Bitterness, Impatience, Un-forgiveness and Lust were sent in advance of this army to prepare for the main attack. I knew in my heart that the church had never faced anything like this before.

The main assignment of this army was to cause division. It was sent to attack every level of relationship-churches with each other, congregations with their pastors, husbands and wives, children and parents, and even children with each other. The scouts were sent to locate the openings in churches, families or individuals that rejection, bitterness, lust, etc., could exploit and make a larger breech for the divisions that were coming.

The most shocking part of this vision was that this horde was not riding on horses, but on Christians! Most of them were well-dressed, respectable, and had the appearance of being refined and educated. These were Christians who had opened themselves to the powers of darkness to such a degree that the enemy could use them and they would think that they were being used by God. The Accuser knows that a house divided cannot stand, and this army represented his ultimate attempt to bring such complete division to the church that she would completely fall from grace.


[Rick Joyner, The Final Quest].

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On October 25, 2025, I had the privilege to be mentored by about ten Islamic missionaries who do outreach for Islam. I found that they had done a great deal of research into both the Christian scriptures as well as the Jewish scriptures. I met them near Square One Mall in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada. Since that meeting I have came to the conclusion that I should attempt to put together a combined Christian plus Islamic outreach and / or a Christian plus Jewish outreach, where we all attempt to concentrate on the huge amount of common ground that all of the Abrahamic religions do actually have.

It is my firm belief that the online near death experiencer testimony of former Atheist Rabbi Alon Anava is inspiring many Jews, many Christians, many Muslims and many Atheists and "Unbelievers" in the God of Abrhaham to make at least several significant steps toward repentance and teshuvah, [a return to the God of Abraham, the Creator of heaven and earth, who I identify with the Being of Light of near death expereince fame].


It is my firm belief that near death experience testimonies by Jews, Christians, Muslims, Atheists and by people from all backgrounds in spirituality are setting the stage for a world where religious people can COOPERATE rather than compete with each other!

[Former Atheist and near death experiencer Mellen Benedict] :

10. What Is the Best Religion?​

I asked God: “What is the best religion on the planet? Which one is right?” And Godhead said, with great love: “I don’t care.” That was incredible grace.

They come and they go, they change. Buddhism has not been here forever, Catholicism has not been here forever, and they are all about to become more enlightened. More light is coming into all systems now. There is going to be a reformation in spirituality that is going to be just as dramatic as the Protestant Reformation. There will be lots of people fighting about it, one religion against the next, believing that only they are right.

Everyone thinks they own God, the religions and philosophies, especially the religions, because they form big organizations around their philosophy. When Godhead said, “I don’t care,” I immediately understood that it is for us to care about. It is important, because we are the caring beings. It matters to us and that is where it is important. What you have is the energy equation in spirituality. Ultimate Godhead does not care if you are Protestant, Buddhist, or whatever. It is all a blooming facet of the whole. I wish that all religions would realize it and let each other be. It is not the end of each religion, but we are talking about the same God. Live and let live. Each has a different view. And it all adds up to the Big Picture; it is all important.

I went over to the other side during my NDE with a lot of fears about toxic waste, nuclear missiles, the population explosion, the rainforest. I came back loving every single problem. I love nuclear waste. I love the mushroom cloud; this is the holiest mandala that we have manifested to date, as an archetype. It, more than any religion or philosophy on earth, brought us together all of a sudden, to a new level of consciousness. Knowing that maybe we can blow up the planet fifty times, or 500 times, we finally realize that maybe we are all here together now. For a period they had to keep setting off more bombs to get it in to us. Then we started saying, “we do not need this any more.” Now we are actally in a safer world than we have ever been in, and it is going to get safer. So I came back from my NDE loving toxic waste, because it brought us together. These things are so big. As Peter Russell might say, these problems are now “soul size.” Do we have soul size answers, YES!

The clearing of the rain forest will slow down, and in fifty years there will be more trees on the planet than in a long time. If you are into ecology, go for it; you are that part of the system that is becoming aware. Go for it with all your might, but do not be depressed. It is part of a larger thing. Earth is in the process of domesticating itself. It is never again going to be as wild a place as it once was. There will be great wild places, reserves where nature thrives. Gardening and reserves will be the thing in the future. Population increase is getting very close to the optimal range of energy to cause a shift in consciousness. That shift in consciousness will change politics, money, energy.

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My belief is that Christians, Jews, Muslims and everybody else who is willing to research the truly huge subjects, should consider becoming qualified as a "Chaplain."
Near death experiencer Kevin L. Zadai Th. D. has made getting a Diploma or Degree in being a Chaplain relatively easy. He has three courses that are free of charge, all that we have to do is give a valid e-mail and our name and address and voila, we are now students in Warrior Notes School of Ministry.

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[otto105]

All religions are designed to keep people under control and dumb.

 

[otto105]

Christianity caused the Dark Ages after the fall of the Roman Empire.

 

[Failzero]

Christianity caused the Dark Ages.

And the Renascence and the Industrial Age and the Space Age

 

[DennisPTate]

All religions are designed to keep people under control and dumb.

In a way your comment is accurate.....
how else could the Pope's, Bishops and Cardinals, at that time have convinced Holy Roman Emperor Charlemagne to impale women who were guilty of the crime of gathering plants or herbs for medicine?

If Emperor Charlemagne had been more interested in thinking the whole thing through, he might well have experienced some doubts about what the Holy Roman Empire officials were instructing him to do in punishments for very simple "crimes."

I once found the following quotation on Facebook somewhere:

.... " Sultan Kilima Mbayma
·
Religion!!
This is just a reminder of how Christianity became so popular today.
“During the reign of Charlemagne, women were impaled on sharpened poles put in the vagina.
Slowly, over days, the pole would travel the length of the body through the organs, causing tremendous pain, simply because a woman was found collecting herbs in the forest. She was labelled a witch.
Their screams could be heard for days as an example to those who would not accept the foreign faith. Christianity became so popular because of sheer terror of what would happen if it wasn't accepted.”

[sultan Kilma Mbayma]

 

[otto105]

And the Renascence and the Industrial Age and the Space Age

Religion: If god wanted man to fly he would have gave him wings.

The Renaissance was lead by people who fought Christian dogma and advanced culture.

 

[Failzero]

Religion: If god wanted man to fly he would have gave him wings.

The Renaissance was lead by people who fought Christian dogma and advanced culture.

All the main People of the Time were Christians

 

[otto105]

All the main People of the Time were Christians

Of course, they were forced thru religion being part of the state.

 

[DennisPTate]

Religion: If god wanted man to fly he would have gave him wings.

The Renaissance was lead by people who fought Christian dogma and advanced culture.

To a degree you have made a good point.

You might want to comment in this somewhat related discussion:

Zone1 Thread 'How many years might Emperor Charlemagne have been in Purgatory?'

Dec 25, 2025

This question is based on the following quotation that I found on Facebook. I cannot say that I am certain that this idea is not exaggerated.

.... " Sultan Kilima Mbayma
·
Religion!!
This is just a reminder of how Christianity became so popular today.
“During the reign of Charlemagne, women were impaled on sharpened poles put in the vagina.
Slowly, over days, the pole would travel the length of the body through the organs, causing tremendous pain, simply because a woman was found collecting herbs in the forest. She was labelled a witch.
Their screams could be heard for days as...

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[DennisPTate]

Christianity caused the Dark Ages the fall of the Roman Empire.

That is a good point but at the time of the Bar Kochba Revolt Rabbi Akiva may have instructed some Jewish slave owners to deal very harshly with their Messianic Jewish slave girls who refused to shut up about how wonderful Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was.

Before Christians became rulers over Jews...... Jews had been rulers over Messianic Jews.

Acts 26

Agrippa said to Paul, “You have permission to speak for yourself.” Then Paul stretched out his hand and made his defense:

2;“I think myself fortunate that it is before you, King Agrippa, I am to make my defense today against all the accusations of the Jews, 3;because you are especially familiar with all customs and controversies of the Jews; therefore I beg you to listen to me patiently.

4;“My manner of life from my youth, spent from the beginning among my own nation and at Jerusalem, is known by all the Jews. 5;They have known for a long time, if they are willing to testify, that according to the strictest party of our religion I have lived as a Pharisee. 6;And now I stand here on trial for hope in the promise made by God to our fathers, 7;to which our twelve tribes hope to attain, as they earnestly worship night and day. And for this hope I am accused by Jews, O king! 8;Why is it thought incredible by any of you that God raises the dead?

9&;“I myself was convinced that I ought to do many things in opposing the name of Jesus of Nazareth. 10;And I did so in Jerusalem; I not only shut up many of the saints in prison, by authority from the chief priests, but when they were put to death I cast my vote against them. 11;And I punished them often in all the synagogues and tried to make them blaspheme; and in raging fury against them, I persecuted them even to foreign cities.

Paul Tells of His Conversion​

12;“Thus I journeyed to Damascus with the authority and commission of the chief priests. 13;At midday, O king, I saw on the way a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, shining round me and those who journeyed with me. 14;And when we had all fallen to the ground, I heard a voice saying to me in the Hebrew language, ‘Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me? It hurts you to kick against the goads.’ 15;And I said, ‘Who are you, Lord?’ And the Lord said, ‘I am Jesus whom you are persecuting. 16;But rise and stand upon your feet; for I have appeared to you for this purpose, to appoint you to serve and bear witness to the things in which you have seen me and to those in which I will appear to you, 17;delivering you from the people and from the Gentiles—to whom I send you 18;to open their eyes, that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.’

What do you think about the behaviour of the Apostle Paul while he was still officially "Jewish?" Do you think that he found a way to attempt to get Messianic Jews to "blaspheme' by merely tickling their toes with feathers?

Or do you think that realistically the Apostle Paul may have resorted to more drastic measures than using feathers?

 

[otto105]

That is a good point but at the time of the Bar Kochba Revolt Rabbi Akiva may have instructed some Jewish slave owners to deal very harshly with their Messianic Jewish slave girls who refused to shut up about how wonderful Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was.

Before Christians became rulers over Jews...... Jews had been rulers over Messianic Jews.



What do you think about the behaviour of the Apostle Paul while he was still officially "Jewish?" Do you think that he found a way to get Messianic Jews to "blaspheme' by merely tickling their toes with feathers?

The Dark Ages lasted so long because of the rise of christianity (namely the Catholic Church) to enforce its religious dogma and control thru state power.

 

[otto105]

That is a good point but at the time of the Bar Kochba Revolt Rabbi Akiva may have instructed some Jewish slave owners to deal very harshly with their Messianic Jewish slave girls who refused to shut up about how wonderful Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was.

Before Christians became rulers over Jews...... Jews had been rulers over Messianic Jews.



What do you think about the behaviour of the Apostle Paul while he was still officially "Jewish?" Do you think that he found a way to attempt to get Messianic Jews to "blaspheme' by merely tickling their toes with feathers?

Or do you think that realistically the Apostle Paul may have resorted to more drastic measures than using feathers?

The Jewish religion or its followers never controlled a nation during the dark Ages.

 

[DennisPTate]

The Jewish religion or its followers never controlled a nation during the dark Ages.

Not directly that is a valid point.......
but the testimony of former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava does give us all something to think about. Some people who may have dressed " Jewish" ..... and perhaps knew how to sound Jewish..... might not be in the same level spiritually as Rabbi Nachman of Breslov.

Erev Rav (עֵרֶב רַב), meaning "mixed multitude" in Hebrew, refers to a group from the Exodus who joined the Israelites, traditionally seen as causing spiritual strife, notably during the Golden Calf incident. The term also describes a modern concept for those perceived as internal enemies or traitors within a community, using seemingly Jewish identity to undermine it, and is sometimes used metaphorically for rabbinical students on the "eve" (erev) of ordination. It signifies a problematic mindset of division, superstition, or harmful tradition, not a specific sect.....

Israel’s Greatest Enemy: The Erev Rav | Mayim Achronim

www.mayimachronim.com

Who is The Erev Rav? Do they 'run' the world? Are they an evil regime with a lot of power? - Part 1​

 

[otto105]

Not directly that is a valid point.......
but the testimony of former Atheist and near death experiencer Rabbi Alon Anava does give us all something to think about. Some people who may have dressed " Jewish" ..... and perhaps knew how to sound Jewish..... might not be in the same level spiritually as Rabbi Nachman of Breslov.

Israel’s Greatest Enemy: The Erev Rav | Mayim Achronim

www.mayimachronim.com

Who is The Erev Rav? Do they 'run' the world? Are they an evil regime with a lot of power? - Part 1​

I don’t delineate religions when it comes to controlling and dumbing down their followers.

 

[DennisPTate]

I don’t delineate religions when it comes to controlling and dumbing down their followers.

That is a good point because there is no denying the fact that ninety plus percent of all religious leaders are worried about money and the revenue stream that their favourite organization has going.