China: Engineering an endangered major

[rdean]

Global Times - Engineering an endangered major

Seems China is having the same problem we are. The brightest students are going into moving money around rather than figuring out "good" ways to make more money.

 

[eagleseven]

Global Times - Engineering an endangered major

Seems China is having the same problem we are. The brightest students are going into moving money around rather than figuring out "good" ways to make more money.

When China's financial sector collapses due to central bank interference, that'll change. The entire Chinese economy is a massive government-inflated bubble...God help us when it pops.

 

[Old Rocks]

Both true and false. They have kept their currency at an artificailly low value, so as to sell their manufactured goods. At the same time, if they let that currency rise to the appropriate level, then they will be in the position to compete successfully for the raw materials in the other nations.

Here in the states, we finally are seeing the engineering students going into engineering, rather than finance, after the bubble burst here. However, that does not make up for the fact that China is graduating ten times the number of engineering students that we are. Even little South Korea is graduating 3 times the number that we are. We will pay for this in the future.

 

[rdean]

Both true and false. They have kept their currency at an artificailly low value, so as to sell their manufactured goods. At the same time, if they let that currency rise to the appropriate level, then they will be in the position to compete successfully for the raw materials in the other nations.

Here in the states, we finally are seeing the engineering students going into engineering, rather than finance, after the bubble burst here. However, that does not make up for the fact that China is graduating ten times the number of engineering students that we are. Even little South Korea is graduating 3 times the number that we are. We will pay for this in the future.

More isn't always better. There is a certain creativity connected to engineering. Also, as long as you work as an engineer, you can NEVER stop learning, not if you want to stay competitive.

If you are a diamond cutter, you might develop a knack for the best way to cut diamonds. It may take you 10 years to learn it, but once learned, it's there forever.

With engineering, materials, electronics, methods, the field is fluid, ever changing.

The company I work for has tried to have it's machinery built in China, but the quality is so low that only the most simple units are built there. The more complex equipment is built here.

50% of engineering students in the US drop out. Calculus, differential linear equations and physics are "hard". But those that stick with it are good. The US graduates less than 100,000 per year. China and India together, nearly a million. Yea, and look at all the Nobel Prizes they are winning.

Probably one of the biggest problems here is the Christian/Republican war on science. Who knows how many we have lost due to religion delegitimizing science?

Don Dodge on The Next Big Thing: 50% of US engineering students dropout - Why?

 

[eagleseven]

Both true and false. They have kept their currency at an artificailly low value, so as to sell their manufactured goods. At the same time, if they let that currency rise to the appropriate level, then they will be in the position to compete successfully for the raw materials in the other nations.

Here in the states, we finally are seeing the engineering students going into engineering, rather than finance, after the bubble burst here. However, that does not make up for the fact that China is graduating ten times the number of engineering students that we are. Even little South Korea is graduating 3 times the number that we are. We will pay for this in the future.

By hiring Chinese and Korean engineers, no doubt.

 

[rdean]

Both true and false. They have kept their currency at an artificailly low value, so as to sell their manufactured goods. At the same time, if they let that currency rise to the appropriate level, then they will be in the position to compete successfully for the raw materials in the other nations.

Here in the states, we finally are seeing the engineering students going into engineering, rather than finance, after the bubble burst here. However, that does not make up for the fact that China is graduating ten times the number of engineering students that we are. Even little South Korea is graduating 3 times the number that we are. We will pay for this in the future.

By hiring Chinese and Korean engineers, no doubt.

We do that now. Overseas.

 

[Old Rocks]

Both true and false. They have kept their currency at an artificailly low value, so as to sell their manufactured goods. At the same time, if they let that currency rise to the appropriate level, then they will be in the position to compete successfully for the raw materials in the other nations.

Here in the states, we finally are seeing the engineering students going into engineering, rather than finance, after the bubble burst here. However, that does not make up for the fact that China is graduating ten times the number of engineering students that we are. Even little South Korea is graduating 3 times the number that we are. We will pay for this in the future.

More isn't always better. There is a certain creativity connected to engineering. Also, as long as you work as an engineer, you can NEVER stop learning, not if you want to stay competitive.

If you are a diamond cutter, you might develop a knack for the best way to cut diamonds. It may take you 10 years to learn it, but once learned, it's there forever.

With engineering, materials, electronics, methods, the field is fluid, ever changing.

The company I work for has tried to have it's machinery built in China, but the quality is so low that only the most simple units are built there. The more complex equipment is built here.

50% of engineering students in the US drop out. Calculus, differential linear equations and physics are "hard". But those that stick with it are good. The US graduates less than 100,000 per year. China and India together, nearly a million. Yea, and look at all the Nobel Prizes they are winning.

Probably one of the biggest problems here is the Christian/Republican war on science. Who knows how many we have lost due to religion delegitimizing science?

Don Dodge on The Next Big Thing: 50% of US engineering students dropout - Why?

It is seldom that engineers win Nobel prizes. That usually goes to research scientists. Also, remember that China is still in it's infancy as an industrial and technological nation.

We once regarded the Japanese as simpy excellent people at copying. And now they are the primary auto producing nation in the world.

In 2009, the Chinese bought more automobiles than the the citizens of the US. The Chinese are already producing and selling a hybrid auto that is a plug in, has over 60 miles range on electric, and another 200+ on gas. While it is not the quality of the Prius at present, that may well change in the near future.

Anytime we get complacent in this flat world, we are setting ourselves up for another lesson in hubris.

 

[eagleseven]

Anytime we get complacent in this flat world, we are setting ourselves up for another lesson in hubris.

I think after the crash of 2008, no American, save Congress, is complacent. We're all waiting for the other shoe to drop.

 

[Old Rocks]

Shoes.

 

[rdean]

Shoes.

Bush was the "expert" on shoes.

 

[rdean]

Both true and false. They have kept their currency at an artificailly low value, so as to sell their manufactured goods. At the same time, if they let that currency rise to the appropriate level, then they will be in the position to compete successfully for the raw materials in the other nations.

Here in the states, we finally are seeing the engineering students going into engineering, rather than finance, after the bubble burst here. However, that does not make up for the fact that China is graduating ten times the number of engineering students that we are. Even little South Korea is graduating 3 times the number that we are. We will pay for this in the future.

More isn't always better. There is a certain creativity connected to engineering. Also, as long as you work as an engineer, you can NEVER stop learning, not if you want to stay competitive.

If you are a diamond cutter, you might develop a knack for the best way to cut diamonds. It may take you 10 years to learn it, but once learned, it's there forever.

With engineering, materials, electronics, methods, the field is fluid, ever changing.

The company I work for has tried to have it's machinery built in China, but the quality is so low that only the most simple units are built there. The more complex equipment is built here.

50% of engineering students in the US drop out. Calculus, differential linear equations and physics are "hard". But those that stick with it are good. The US graduates less than 100,000 per year. China and India together, nearly a million. Yea, and look at all the Nobel Prizes they are winning.

Probably one of the biggest problems here is the Christian/Republican war on science. Who knows how many we have lost due to religion delegitimizing science?

Don Dodge on The Next Big Thing: 50% of US engineering students dropout - Why?

It is seldom that engineers win Nobel prizes. That usually goes to research scientists. Also, remember that China is still in it's infancy as an industrial and technological nation.

We once regarded the Japanese as simpy excellent people at copying. And now they are the primary auto producing nation in the world.

In 2009, the Chinese bought more automobiles than the the citizens of the US. The Chinese are already producing and selling a hybrid auto that is a plug in, has over 60 miles range on electric, and another 200+ on gas. While it is not the quality of the Prius at present, that may well change in the near future.

Anytime we get complacent in this flat world, we are setting ourselves up for another lesson in hubris.

Actually, in a way, engineers are a kind of "hands one" research scientist. They don't just "design and build", they have to "research" first.

 

[cbi0090]

Global Times - Engineering an endangered major

Seems China is having the same problem we are. The brightest students are going into moving money around rather than figuring out "good" ways to make more money.

I'd feel better if they did go after the money, but most of the ones I speak to on student career days want to be rap stars.