China: A favored nation?

rtwngAvngr said:
Ban all imports from china. Then other companies will be able to produce good profitably. There is precedent for this. With Russia, Cuba, North Korea, S. Africa, bans on ivory, bans on kiddie porn. We can do more than shrug. I know that.
Extrapolation. We can ban ivory and kiddie porn, we can ban our current infrastructure! You're an idiot, Mildred.
rtwngAvngr said:
But the elites of the world are connected through family, business, and secret societies. They're ganging up on the rest of us. Wake up, Mildred.
I guess if we're not being ganged up upon we must be a part of it then?
 
The ClayTaurus said:
Extrapolation. We can ban ivory and kiddie porn, we can ban our current infrastructure!
I'm not saying ban our infrastructure. I'm saying ban chinese imports. Are you delirious? Here, try one of these :chillpill:

Ban our infrastructure? That's warped, dude.
You're an idiot, Mildred.I guess if we're not being ganged up upon we must be a part of it then?

The regular folk of america are being ganged up on by the the corporate, government, and media elite. Our manufacturing base is being put out of work by immoral slave labor, terrorists are being allowed to manage our ports, and our government refuses to protect us from massive and untenable illegal immigration.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
I'm not saying ban our infrastructure. I'm saying ban chinese imports. Are you delirious? Here, try one of these :chillpill:

Ban our infrastructure? That's warped, dude.
Our infrastructue is entirely based on Chinese imports. It's not a vacuum issue, DUDE.
 
The ClayTaurus said:
Our infrastructue is entirely based on Chinese imports. It's not a vacuum issue, DUDE.

You mean concrete? And electric wire and stuff? We can manage to find alternatives. Im not saying it will be easy, but it's worth doing for the long term security and freedom of the world.

Divest From China Now!

Boycott China Now!
 
rtwngAvngr said:
You mean concrete? And electric wire and stuff? We can manage to find alternatives. Im not saying it will be easy, but it's worth doing for the long term security and freedom of the world.

Divest From China Now!

Boycott China Now!
You haven't really thought this all the way through, have you? It sounds good on paper, I know.
 
The ClayTaurus said:
You haven't really thought this all the way through, have you? It sounds good on paper, I know.


I know it would mean major economic changes in the short term. In the long term it will mean freedom from totalitarianism. You've been brainwashed, my friend. We always have choices.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
I know it would mean major economic changes in the short term. In the long term it will mean freedom from totalitarianism. You've been brainwashed, my friend. We always have choices.
If you just cut China off cold turkey, there won't be an America as we know it now. I'm not brainwashed. That's your lame cop out for anyone who disagrees with you. A little more creative than "you're a liberal" and certainly more versatile, but lame nonetheless.

Are you boycotting all things Chinese now?
 
The ClayTaurus said:
If you just cut China off cold turkey, there won't be an America as we know it now. I'm not brainwashed. That's your lame cop out for anyone who disagrees with you. A little more creative than "you're a liberal" and certainly more versatile, but lame nonetheless.

Are you boycotting all things Chinese now?

There would still be an america. We might have to go with less cheap stuff until we build up our own capacities again. It's worth it. The devil pulls us away from what's right with his insidious materialism. Quit helping him, demon boy.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
There would still be an america. We might have to go with less cheap stuff until we build up our own capacities again. It's worth it. The devil pulls us away from what's right with his insidious materialism. Quit helping him, demon boy.
Are you boycotting all things Chinese now?
 
The ClayTaurus said:
If you just cut China off cold turkey, there won't be an America as we know it now. I'm not brainwashed. That's your lame cop out for anyone who disagrees with you. A little more creative than "you're a liberal" and certainly more versatile, but lame nonetheless.

Are you boycotting all things Chinese now?
No, he's still bangin away on his puter, most likely 50% chinese built.:)
 
The ClayTaurus said:
Are you boycotting all things Chinese now?

Sadly no. But I should be. I wish the government would help create non-chinese markets by boycotting china at the national level. We have done national boycotts to achieve political ends all throughout history. It's not unheard of. It's what we should do now as well.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
Sadly no. But I should be. I wish the government would help create non-chinese markets by boycotting china at the national level. We have done national boycotts to achieve political ends all throughout history. It's not unheard of. It's what we should do now as well.
I'm sure if you tried hard enough you could boycott all things chinese, right?
 
rtwngAvngr said:
Sadly no. But I should be. I wish the government would help create non-chinese markets by boycotting china at the national level. We have done national boycotts to achieve political ends all throughout history. It's not unheard of. It's what we should do now as well.
Why the government? Just look at the item when buying, if it says, "Made in China" put it back. If your idea catches on, viola, problem solved.

It worked with France.
 
Kathianne said:
Why the government? Just look at the item when buying, if it says, "Made in China" put it back. If your idea catches on, viola, problem solved.

It worked with France.

Why didn't we take this approach with cuban goods? Or with south africa?

Banning products at a national level would be more effective. Plus we may not even know of components inside other items. WHy are you so pro slave labor? because the neocons said you were?

We should bring totalitarian china to it's knees with a massive national boycott.
 
The ClayTaurus said:
I'm sure if you tried hard enough you could boycott all things chinese, right?

Probably not, because of them being components of other producsts.

Have you ever heard the phrase "Two wrongs don't make a right"? Are you aware of the morally bankrupt nature of the "everyone's doing it" defense?

We have a long history of boycotts and we should continue it with china, despite popular brainwash.
 
WHo here believes the lie that billions in trade with the chinese fascists will somehow make the people there more free? How does that work, exactly?
 
rtwngAvngr said:
Probably not, because of them being components of other producsts.
And now you've successfully proven why a massive cold turkey boycott of China would cripple America. Thanks.
rtwngAvngr said:
Have you ever heard the phrase "Two wrongs don't make a right"? Are you aware of the morally bankrupt nature of the "everyone's doing it" defense?
No, but I have heard 3 lefts make a right... or maybe it was 3 rights make a left? :dunno:
rtwngAvngr said:
We have a long history of boycotts and we should continue it with china, despite popular brainwash
Name one boycott that even begins to approach the magnitude of that which you are suggesting. You're extrapolating beyond sound reason. Switching up piano keys does not compare to switching up nearly EVERYTHING.
 
The ClayTaurus said:
And now you've successfully proven why a massive cold turkey boycott of China would cripple America. Thanks.
There would be huge impacts, no doubt. But going down this road is suicide in the long run. Have you ever heard of a long term view, or the concept of "enemy", or "human rights"? You're disgusting.
No, but I have heard 3 lefts make a right... or maybe it was 3 rights make a left? :dunno:Name one boycott that even begins to approach the magnitude of that which you are suggesting. You're extrapolating beyond sound reason. Switching up piano keys does not compare to switching up nearly EVERYTHING.

It's not beyond all reason.
It would be difficult.

But:

It's worth making the major changes. And we would recover faster, because our people are more creative and individually oriented. Trying to compete with slave labor production or becoming dependant on it, will eventually bring the whole world into slavery. Of course, this is what they want. Fight the power.
 
rtwngAvngr said:
There would be huge impacts, no doubt. But going down this road is suicide in the long run. Have you ever heard of a long term view, or the concept of "enemy", or "human rights"? You're disgusting.


It's not beyond all reason.
It would be difficult.
How would it work? Just grandfather all the already made in China shit? Or destroy that too? I guess you'd have to destroy anything from China because it was made immorally.

It would cripple the country to the point of another country taking advantage. Your own inability to boycott China is proof alone. Unless you're advocating we relinquish our position as world's number one super power for awhile...
rtwngAvngr said:
But:

It's worth making the major changes. And we would recover faster, because our people are more creative and individually oriented. Trying to compete with slave labor production or becoming dependant on it, will eventually bring the whole world into slavery. Of course, this is what they want. Fight the power.
So now the question is why you haven't gotten a job doing something about it. Unless you think this forum is going to advance your cause? Seems like you're wasting your time here. You need to find a bigger stage.

I mean clearly you "get it" more than the rest of us. Why are you just sitting there doing (relatively) nothing?
 
The ClayTaurus said:
How would it work? Just grandfather all the already made in China shit? Or destroy that too? I guess you'd have to destroy anything from China because it was made immorally.
ANy or all of the above seem appropriate. Maybe a combination.
It would cripple the country to the point of another country taking advantage.
No it wouldn't. It would have a huge impact, but we could gear up quick. Or gasp, do without some cheap goods for awhile.
Your own inability to boycott China is proof alone.
My own inability to boycott china indicates our already dangerously high levels of dependance upon totalitarians.
Unless you're advocating we relinquish our position as world's number one super power for awhile.

This wouldn't happen. And if china thought we might actually DO IT, they may just give their citizens a contitution. Have you considered that? Of course not, you're brainwashed.
 

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