Catholic Republicans wonder about Vance's views on in-vitro fertilization

[forkintheroad7]

Exclusive | JD Vance explains how his Catholic faith aligns with IVF, abortion policies: ‘Accept that you live in a Democratic society’

Vance, who converted to Catholicism in 2019, spoke to The Post in an interview on Wednesday about how his religious beliefs influence his policies and how he sees his role in politics – specificall…

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My own view is that IVF is immoral and should therefore not be legal. However, we don't live in a very Catholic world. I would never vote against a Republican, wouldn't support a dim no matter what. There are tons of issues the Rs get right and the dims... well, as Senator John Kennedy said (paraphrase? No, I think this is verbatim)

The Republicans aren't perfect but the democrats are crazy

However, that said, I don't like how a lot of Rs are supporting IVF.

Maybe if we get Rs elected and hopefully, some time in the future, get rid of the D party altogether

, we can some day have more morally-healthy policies.

 

[Obiwan]

It looks like the Catholics might have to make a choice. Will they accept a couple trying to conceive, or do they want to murder millions of unborn babies?

 

[forkintheroad7]

It looks like the Catholics might have to make a choice. Will they accept a couple trying to conceive, or do they want to murder millions of unborn babies?

That is asinine

 

[toobfreak]

My own view is that IVF is immoral and should therefore not be legal.

Look, all religious considerations aside, IVF is simply a medical procedure which may help some couples have kids who, for whatever medical reasons, have difficulty otherwise conceiving in the womb. Not much different than a mother taking a drug to help her conceive or carry a baby. I don't see the big problem here.

Except that Vance is helping make the case why Harris/Walz are running a campaign below the radar. By saying nothing, you have nothing to attack.
Vance talks constantly giving views and opinions which are then misinterpreted or misconstrued, turned around, and used against him.

Maybe Vance should just shut the hell up and say he's not a doctor and that government should stay out of medicine. IVF should be a decision between a mother and her doctor.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

That is asinine

Neat, but it's true.

That's why they oppose IVF in the first place.

Maybe you started a topic that is too much for you.

 

[theHawk]

Somebody needs to educate Trump/Vance on the subject.

IVF likely discards hundreds of viable embryos for every one that is successful.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Look, all religious considerations aside, IVF is simply a medical procedure which may help some couples have kids who, for whatever medical reasons, have difficulty otherwise conceiving in the womb. Not much different than a mother taking a drug to help her conceive or carry a baby. I don't see the big problem here.

Except that Vance is helping make the case why Harris/Walz are running a campaign below the radar. By saying nothing, you have nothing to attack.
Vance talks constantly giving views and opinions which are then misinterpreted or misconstrued, turned around, and used against him.

Maybe Vance should just shut the hell up and say he's not a doctor and that government should stay out of medicine. IVF should be a decision between a mother and her doctor.

The Catholic Church (which included the Vatican until 1958) has always taught it is immoral to create human life in a laboratory, and worse, to discard the humans who are not wanted.

If you think it's moral to throw humans away, then you can believe that but in the END you will be held accountable for that and every other choice you made in life.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Somebody needs to educate Trump/Vance on the subject.

IVF likely discards hundreds of viable embryos for every one that is successful.

What do the pro aborts care about humans being thrown in the trash? This is what society gets for ditching the TRUE Church, the Catholic Church...

namely

Nazism

 

[forkintheroad7]

It looks like the Catholics might have to make a choice. Will they accept a couple trying to conceive, or do they want to murder millions of unborn babies?

It looks like human beings will have to make a choice: The teachings of the True Church that Christ founded or

chaos and lawlessness, which lead to Hell

 

[toobfreak]

The Catholic Church (which included the Vatican until 1958) has always taught it is immoral to create human life in a laboratory, and worse, to discard the humans who are not wanted.

I would agree with you except that until very recently, it was not even possible to "create" humans in a laboratory! But to be more clear, IVF does not "create" humans in a laboratory, they cojoin the eggs with the sperm causing conception, then return the fertilized egg to the mother whose body then "creates" the human. BTW, isn't IVF also a way of bringing wanted children into this world for loving parents who would otherwise not be able to have them?

If you think it's moral to throw humans away,

Where do you get that crap?! When did I ever say that? Can't any of you people READ? I'm just as much against abortion as you are, but I also recognize the impractical sociological implications of trying to criminalize so broad of a medical procedure. It will never happen, and that is the truth, a fact, whether you want to face it or not. All you have really done is possibly given the democrat party the edge to win another election whereby far MORE abortions will be taking place! In your narrow, stubborn moralism, you are actually FACILITATING far more abortions, dummy!

then you can believe that but in the END you will be held accountable for that and every other choice you made in life.

Try to lay your lame guilt trip somewhere else, buddy.