Kurmugeon
Senior Member
Ebola is loose in Dallas, and possibly in several other U.S. Cites, yet we still haven't restricted flight INTO the Hot Zones in Africa, or begun placing returning people through a 6 week isolation - observation period in a remote location.
Contagious Disease Surveillance Virus Awareness Ebola Map HealthMap
Statistics as of Oct 6, 2014:
Guinea: 1199 cases, 740 dead, Population 11.8M
Sierra Leone: 2437 cases, 623 dead, Population 6.1M
Senegal: 1 cases, 0 dead, Population 14.1 M
Liberia: 3834 cases, 2069 dead, Population 4.3M
Nigeria: 20 cases, 43 dead, Population 173.3M
DR Congo: 70 cases, 43 dead, Population 67.5M
United States: 1 Case, 0 dead, Population 316.1M
The "Plan" for dealing with the next Ebola major African Outbreak has been around and worked out for at least 30 years, and probably longer. The Military began doing exercises in how to airlift supply remote location isolation-observation portable camps as early as 1985, I know, I participated in them.
The concept was to greatly limit the number of people allowed to fly into the Hot Zones, to just those who were essential aid-worker, Doctor, Researcher, or Security personnel. When rotation time came around, and these people needed to be pulled back to the U.S. they would be sent to a remote patch of Alaskan Tundra, or Nevada Desert, to live in a series of spaced out camps along an Airlift supply runway, with fuel, electricity, sewer, water, shelters, clean cloths, medical supplies, and food all brought in and dropped in exchange zones, and pulled by cables and aircraft tugs across a buffer zone, to be unpacked and used by each camp.
The Camps would be phased, a new one starting each week, and after six weeks, those found clean, would be flown out to rejoin society. After several weeks fallow, an emptied camp would be thoroughly cleaned, and returned to service for a new weekly group.
That was "The PLAN".
We didn't do it!
WHY!?
Who has the Authority and Decides these things?
Clearly this is an issue controlled by the Executive Branch, the President, and his appointed representative, the head of the CDC.
The current head of the CDC is Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, the New York City health commissioner, appointed by President Obama in May, 2009:
The CDC Director About CDC
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/health/policy/15cdc.html?_r=0
Like the Attorney General, the Head of the FCC, the Head of the FAA, the Head of the EPA, the Head of the FBI, and many other Cabinet Members, ....
Dr. Frieden serves at the request and forbearance of the President, but with the advice and consent of Congress.
Dr. Frieden has the authority and responsibility to set communicable disease isolation-quarantine protocols.
If the country and/or the President is unhappy with the actions of a cabinet member, it the duty of the President to request the resignation, and select a replacement.
The Buck Stops with the President Obama on this issue. Ultimately, President Obama is response for the advice and actions taken by his cabinet members and his Administration.
So this Thread is designed to be a list or catalog of the various theories and/or Rationales for why America, the CDC, and the Obama Administration did NOT follow through with the planned response.
So, the following pages will outline a series of possible rationales behind our abandoning the long held response plans to a new, major, Africa Ebola outbreak.
Some of these rationales will be weak, vague, and incomplete.
Some of these rationales will be offensive Conspiracy Theories, in the minds of some, but not all.
Some of these rationales will be the opinions of some segments of the scientific community as to the danger presented by the outbreak, and our ability to control the hazard, but many on this forum will not agree with the assessment of control envisioned.
All the theories I could find, will be presented in a very brief sketch, and the readers/posters are encouraged to discuss them, and add new items to the growing list of rationales.
The rationales are not presented in any kind of logical order or hierarchy of believability. The order was somewhat determined by google searches return results of theories explaining the President's actions.
The Question for Debate of the Thread:
What do you believe is the Rationale being used by President Obama and his closest cabinet level advisers on the issue of Ebola, for abandoning the long held plans for Travel Restrictions and Returning Personnel Isolation?
Contagious Disease Surveillance Virus Awareness Ebola Map HealthMap
Statistics as of Oct 6, 2014:
Guinea: 1199 cases, 740 dead, Population 11.8M
Sierra Leone: 2437 cases, 623 dead, Population 6.1M
Senegal: 1 cases, 0 dead, Population 14.1 M
Liberia: 3834 cases, 2069 dead, Population 4.3M
Nigeria: 20 cases, 43 dead, Population 173.3M
DR Congo: 70 cases, 43 dead, Population 67.5M
United States: 1 Case, 0 dead, Population 316.1M
The "Plan" for dealing with the next Ebola major African Outbreak has been around and worked out for at least 30 years, and probably longer. The Military began doing exercises in how to airlift supply remote location isolation-observation portable camps as early as 1985, I know, I participated in them.
The concept was to greatly limit the number of people allowed to fly into the Hot Zones, to just those who were essential aid-worker, Doctor, Researcher, or Security personnel. When rotation time came around, and these people needed to be pulled back to the U.S. they would be sent to a remote patch of Alaskan Tundra, or Nevada Desert, to live in a series of spaced out camps along an Airlift supply runway, with fuel, electricity, sewer, water, shelters, clean cloths, medical supplies, and food all brought in and dropped in exchange zones, and pulled by cables and aircraft tugs across a buffer zone, to be unpacked and used by each camp.
The Camps would be phased, a new one starting each week, and after six weeks, those found clean, would be flown out to rejoin society. After several weeks fallow, an emptied camp would be thoroughly cleaned, and returned to service for a new weekly group.
That was "The PLAN".
We didn't do it!
WHY!?
Who has the Authority and Decides these things?
Clearly this is an issue controlled by the Executive Branch, the President, and his appointed representative, the head of the CDC.
The current head of the CDC is Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, the New York City health commissioner, appointed by President Obama in May, 2009:
The CDC Director About CDC
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/health/policy/15cdc.html?_r=0
Like the Attorney General, the Head of the FCC, the Head of the FAA, the Head of the EPA, the Head of the FBI, and many other Cabinet Members, ....
Dr. Frieden serves at the request and forbearance of the President, but with the advice and consent of Congress.
Dr. Frieden has the authority and responsibility to set communicable disease isolation-quarantine protocols.
If the country and/or the President is unhappy with the actions of a cabinet member, it the duty of the President to request the resignation, and select a replacement.
The Buck Stops with the President Obama on this issue. Ultimately, President Obama is response for the advice and actions taken by his cabinet members and his Administration.
So this Thread is designed to be a list or catalog of the various theories and/or Rationales for why America, the CDC, and the Obama Administration did NOT follow through with the planned response.
So, the following pages will outline a series of possible rationales behind our abandoning the long held response plans to a new, major, Africa Ebola outbreak.
Some of these rationales will be weak, vague, and incomplete.
Some of these rationales will be offensive Conspiracy Theories, in the minds of some, but not all.
Some of these rationales will be the opinions of some segments of the scientific community as to the danger presented by the outbreak, and our ability to control the hazard, but many on this forum will not agree with the assessment of control envisioned.
All the theories I could find, will be presented in a very brief sketch, and the readers/posters are encouraged to discuss them, and add new items to the growing list of rationales.
The rationales are not presented in any kind of logical order or hierarchy of believability. The order was somewhat determined by google searches return results of theories explaining the President's actions.
The Question for Debate of the Thread:
What do you believe is the Rationale being used by President Obama and his closest cabinet level advisers on the issue of Ebola, for abandoning the long held plans for Travel Restrictions and Returning Personnel Isolation?