Can or will any dissenter to my post detail a period in history where whites are responsible..

[AKIP]

...for problems in the black community? I mean, starting from American history, have whites ever done anything that could be said to have harmed blacks culturally, economically, socially, psychologically, etc? I mean, there is plenty of history that shows white society doing bad things to blacks, my question is did those bad things ever impact blacks negatively? I mean, it seems like a common sense thing that oppressing people would create negative consequences, but I am not getting that impression from dissenters. All that history is simply looked at as "excuses" for black failure. Was there ever a time when white racism was not an excuse for black failure, but rather, a big reason blacks were failing more than whites in this society?

 

[Paul Essien]

...for problems in the black community? I mean, starting from American history, have whites ever done anything that could be said to have harmed blacks culturally, economically, socially, psychologically, etc?

Yes. Systematic white supremacy

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I mean, there is plenty of history that shows white society doing bad things to blacks, my question is did those bad things ever impact blacks negatively?

Yes. Systematic white supremacy

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I mean, it seems like a common sense thing that oppressing people would create negative consequences

Yes. Systematic white supremacy

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but I am not getting that impression from dissenters. All that history is simply looked at as "excuses" for black failure.

Yes because they support systematic white supremacy

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Was there ever a time when white racism was not an excuse for black failure, but rather, a big reason blacks were failing more than whites in this society?

Do you think systematic white supremacy exists ?

 

[WillowTree]

Sigh!

 

[TheOldSchool]

...for problems in the black community? I mean, starting from American history, have whites ever done anything that could be said to have harmed blacks culturally, economically, socially, psychologically, etc? I mean, there is plenty of history that shows white society doing bad things to blacks, my question is did those bad things ever impact blacks negatively? I mean, it seems like a common sense thing that oppressing people would create negative consequences, but I am not getting that impression from dissenters. All that history is simply looked at as "excuses" for black failure. Was there ever a time when white racism was not an excuse for black failure, but rather, a big reason blacks were failing more than whites in this society?

Go outside, cracka. Go live your life.

 

[Meathead]

White supremacy exists, as does Hispanic, Asian and even Eskimo relative to black failure, proving nothing exists in a vacuum. Shit holes are not a product of geography but of population. Look at places in the US like Chicago, Baltimore and Los Angeles, not the entire cities are shit holes. The shit holes are created by the people who live in them.

 

[JGalt]

...for problems in the black community? I mean, starting from American history, have whites ever done anything that could be said to have harmed blacks culturally, economically, socially, psychologically, etc? I mean, there is plenty of history that shows white society doing bad things to blacks, my question is did those bad things ever impact blacks negatively? I mean, it seems like a common sense thing that oppressing people would create negative consequences, but I am not getting that impression from dissenters. All that history is simply looked at as "excuses" for black failure. Was there ever a time when white racism was not an excuse for black failure, but rather, a big reason blacks were failing more than whites in this society?

I'll bite: LBJ's "Great Society". That was a bundle of expensive and failed initiatives that contributed to rather than alleviated, poverty, unemployment, and suffering in the black community.

But at least it did have those blacks voting Democrat for the next 200 years.

 

[OldLady]

...for problems in the black community? I mean, starting from American history, have whites ever done anything that could be said to have harmed blacks culturally, economically, socially, psychologically, etc? I mean, there is plenty of history that shows white society doing bad things to blacks, my question is did those bad things ever impact blacks negatively? I mean, it seems like a common sense thing that oppressing people would create negative consequences, but I am not getting that impression from dissenters. All that history is simply looked at as "excuses" for black failure. Was there ever a time when white racism was not an excuse for black failure, but rather, a big reason blacks were failing more than whites in this society?

Not by racists. Of course it's a big reason, not an "excuse." I wish you luck, though, telling that to this crew.

 

[AKIP]

...for problems in the black community? I mean, starting from American history, have whites ever done anything that could be said to have harmed blacks culturally, economically, socially, psychologically, etc? I mean, there is plenty of history that shows white society doing bad things to blacks, my question is did those bad things ever impact blacks negatively? I mean, it seems like a common sense thing that oppressing people would create negative consequences, but I am not getting that impression from dissenters. All that history is simply looked at as "excuses" for black failure. Was there ever a time when white racism was not an excuse for black failure, but rather, a big reason blacks were failing more than whites in this society?

I'll bite: LBJ's "Great Society". That was a bundle of expensive and failed initiatives that contributed to rather than alleviated, poverty, unemployment, and suffering in the black community.

But at least it did have those blacks voting Democrat for the next 200 years.

So in your opinion, the people trying to put bandages on the wounds created from the racism that was inflicting wounds is the only negative consequence upon black people? Maybe if there was no wound to begin with....there would be no need for bandage.

 

[JGalt]

...for problems in the black community? I mean, starting from American history, have whites ever done anything that could be said to have harmed blacks culturally, economically, socially, psychologically, etc? I mean, there is plenty of history that shows white society doing bad things to blacks, my question is did those bad things ever impact blacks negatively? I mean, it seems like a common sense thing that oppressing people would create negative consequences, but I am not getting that impression from dissenters. All that history is simply looked at as "excuses" for black failure. Was there ever a time when white racism was not an excuse for black failure, but rather, a big reason blacks were failing more than whites in this society?

I'll bite: LBJ's "Great Society". That was a bundle of expensive and failed initiatives that contributed to rather than alleviated, poverty, unemployment, and suffering in the black community.

But at least it did have those blacks voting Democrat for the next 200 years.

So in your opinion, the people trying to put bandages on the wounds created from the racism that was inflicting wounds is the only negative consequence upon black people? Maybe if there was no wound to begin with....there would be no need for bandage.

Awww...the poor snowflakes. Who the hell isn't "wounded"? Hundreds of thousands of Irish people came here under indentured servitude, which wasn't much better than slavery. Chinese immigrants were worked like dogs and treated the same way.

Yet you don't see the same victim-mentality among Irish-Americans or Chinese-Americans. You don't hear about any of those people demanding reparations for the things that were done in the past.

 

[Paul Essien]

Hundreds of thousands of Irish people came here under indentured servitude, which wasn't much better than slavery.

Indentured servants is different from slavery

Indentured servitude was based on a contract for a set period of time (4 to 7 years) Your contract might be bought or sold, but not you. You still had human rights. You were not mere property. It was not forever and it was not passed on to your children. It was not based on your race.

It made the Irish no different than most White Americans of the time: convicts, rogues, vagabonds, whores, cheats and rabble of all descriptions raked from the gutter of Britain and Ireland to become indentured servants in the colonies. You know, the people guys like you call Old Stock Americans, which they see as the genetic secret sauce of US greatness.

No peaches, no cream: The Irish were indentured servants, their working conditions were sometimes as bad as slavery. Many died before their contracts ended. Many were made indentured servants against their will.

But black slavery by the early 1800's was a well-oiled machine based on race and supported by law, religion, racist beliefs, slave patrols, and the latest science. All of that did not fall from the sky. It took over a hundred years to assemble. It grew out of indentured servitude, but by the time it had become full-blown slavery the Irish had been excluded by design: it was race-based.

So the Irish got to where they are because of racism.

• They did not suffer from hundreds of years of slavery, because they were White.
• They could vote by the 1860s, not the 1960s, because they were White.
• They easily qualified for the Homestead Act, the G.I. Bill and FHA loans, because they were White.
• They could live in nice neighbourhoods and go to nice schools, because they were White.

How much disdain and disgust you can show towards black society is essential if you want to fit in for any group so when Irish immigration was at it's max in America (the mid to late 1800s), the Irish had almost no experience with blacks, but after a very short time in the states, they were rioting against blacks (as with the New York draft riots during the Civil War), joining in the barring of blacks from labor unions, and seeking to “become white” by assimilating to the white WASP system that was firmly in place.

Chinese immigrants were worked like dogs and treated the same way.

Racism in America comes in part from the hang-ups white people have about people not being white. That part applies to both blacks and Asians.

But part of the racism comes from the need to excuse the unfair advantages whites have in American society, something that grows out of their ugly, skinhead past of genocide, slavery and Jim Crow. That part applies more to blacks than to Asians.

That makes blacks a way bigger threat to white self-image (and tax rates) than Asians. Therefore whites need to think that there is something profoundly wrong with black people. Model minority Asians help to maintain that picture much better than the poor, violent Asian Americans ever could.


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[Meathead]

Hundreds of thousands of Irish people came here under indentured servitude, which wasn't much better than slavery.

Indentured servants is different from slavery

Indentured servitude was based on a contract for a set period of time (4 to 7 years) Your contract might be bought or sold, but not you. You still had human rights. You were not mere property. It was not forever and it was not passed on to your children. It was not based on your race.

It made the Irish no different than most White Americans of the time: convicts, rogues, vagabonds, whores, cheats and rabble of all descriptions raked from the gutter of Britain and Ireland to become indentured servants in the colonies. You know, the people guys like you call Old Stock Americans, which they see as the genetic secret sauce of US greatness.

No peaches, no cream: The Irish were indentured servants, their working conditions were sometimes as bad as slavery. Many died before their contracts ended. Many were made indentured servants against their will.

But black slavery by the early 1800's was a well-oiled machine based on race and supported by law, religion, racist beliefs, slave patrols, and the latest science. All of that did not fall from the sky. It took over a hundred years to assemble. It grew out of indentured servitude, but by the time it had become full-blown slavery the Irish had been excluded by design: it was race-based.

So the Irish got to where they are because of racism.

• They did not suffer from hundreds of years of slavery, because they were White.
• They could vote by the 1860s, not the 1960s, because they were White.
• They easily qualified for the Homestead Act, the G.I. Bill and FHA loans, because they were White.
• They could live in nice neighbourhoods and go to nice schools, because they were White.

How much disdain and disgust you can show towards black society is essential if you want to fit in for any group so when Irish immigration was at it's max in America (the mid to late 1800s), the Irish had almost no experience with blacks, but after a very short time in the states, they were rioting against blacks (as with the New York draft riots during the Civil War), joining in the barring of blacks from labor unions, and seeking to “become white” by assimilating to the white WASP system that was firmly in place.

Chinese immigrants were worked like dogs and treated the same way.

Racism in America comes in part from the hang-ups white people have about people not being white. That part applies to both blacks and Asians.

But part of the racism comes from the need to excuse the unfair advantages whites have in American society, something that grows out of their ugly, skinhead past of genocide, slavery and Jim Crow. That part applies more to blacks than to Asians.

That makes blacks a way bigger threat to white self-image (and tax rates) than Asians. Therefore whites need to think that there is something profoundly wrong with black people. Model minority Asians help to maintain that picture much better than the poor, violent Asian Americans ever could.


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Of course indentured servitude was different from slavery. "Modern" slavery was founded on the idea that some people were sub-human. No one would have gone to Africa to find sub-humans otherwise. Apparently, the concept of the slavery of "sub-humans" still exists in Africa with the people of the north of the continent enslaving the people of the the south. The entire continent is a shit hole btw.

It flies in the face of PC, but is it possible that there are inferior peoples and some that are so inferior that they can logically be enslaved?

 

[AKIP]

...for problems in the black community? I mean, starting from American history, have whites ever done anything that could be said to have harmed blacks culturally, economically, socially, psychologically, etc? I mean, there is plenty of history that shows white society doing bad things to blacks, my question is did those bad things ever impact blacks negatively? I mean, it seems like a common sense thing that oppressing people would create negative consequences, but I am not getting that impression from dissenters. All that history is simply looked at as "excuses" for black failure. Was there ever a time when white racism was not an excuse for black failure, but rather, a big reason blacks were failing more than whites in this society?

I'll bite: LBJ's "Great Society". That was a bundle of expensive and failed initiatives that contributed to rather than alleviated, poverty, unemployment, and suffering in the black community.

But at least it did have those blacks voting Democrat for the next 200 years.

So in your opinion, the people trying to put bandages on the wounds created from the racism that was inflicting wounds is the only negative consequence upon black people? Maybe if there was no wound to begin with....there would be no need for bandage.

Awww...the poor snowflakes. Who the hell isn't "wounded"? Hundreds of thousands of Irish people came here under indentured servitude, which wasn't much better than slavery. Chinese immigrants were worked like dogs and treated the same way.

Yet you don't see the same victim-mentality among Irish-Americans or Chinese-Americans. You don't hear about any of those people demanding reparations for the things that were done in the past.

Irish eventually merged into "whiteness", receiving full benefits of that privilege. Most Chinese Americans are not descendants of those wronged in the past.

 

[Paul Essien]

Of course indentured servitude was different from slavery. "Modern" slavery was founded on the principle that some people were sub-human. No one would have gone to Africa to find sub-humans otherwise. Apparently, the concept of the slavery of "sub-humans" still exists in Africa with the people of the north of the continent enslaving the people of the the south. The entire continent is a shit hole btw.

It flies in the face of PC, but is it possible that there are inferior peoples and some that are so inferior that they can logically be enslaved?

Do you believe that you are inferior to black men ?

 

[Meathead]

Of course indentured servitude was different from slavery. "Modern" slavery was founded on the principle that some people were sub-human. No one would have gone to Africa to find sub-humans otherwise. Apparently, the concept of the slavery of "sub-humans" still exists in Africa with the people of the north of the continent enslaving the people of the the south. The entire continent is a shit hole btw.

It flies in the face of PC, but is it possible that there are inferior peoples and some that are so inferior that they can logically be enslaved?

Do you believe that you are inferior to black men ?

In general I am inferior to athletically to some black men, intellectually to very few, and as a father to even fewer.

Does that answer your question?

 

[AKIP]

Of course indentured servitude was different from slavery. "Modern" slavery was founded on the principle that some people were sub-human. No one would have gone to Africa to find sub-humans otherwise. Apparently, the concept of the slavery of "sub-humans" still exists in Africa with the people of the north of the continent enslaving the people of the the south. The entire continent is a shit hole btw.

It flies in the face of PC, but is it possible that there are inferior peoples and some that are so inferior that they can logically be enslaved?

Do you believe that you are inferior to black men ?

In general I am inferior to athletically to some black men, intellectually to very few, and as a father to even fewer.

Does that answer your question?

What % of black people have you met to come up with that analysis?

 

[Meathead]

Of course indentured servitude was different from slavery. "Modern" slavery was founded on the principle that some people were sub-human. No one would have gone to Africa to find sub-humans otherwise. Apparently, the concept of the slavery of "sub-humans" still exists in Africa with the people of the north of the continent enslaving the people of the the south. The entire continent is a shit hole btw.

It flies in the face of PC, but is it possible that there are inferior peoples and some that are so inferior that they can logically be enslaved?

Do you believe that you are inferior to black men ?

In general I am inferior to athletically to some black men, intellectually to very few, and as a father to even fewer.

Does that answer your question?

What % of black people have you met to come up with that analysis?

Enough to know, and I have never been to prison. Pretty impressive, eh?

 

[Paul Essien]

In general I am inferior to athletically to some black men, intellectually to very few, and as a father to even fewer.Does that answer your question?

So what makes you inferior to black men athletic wise ?

And what makes you superior intelligence wise to black men ?

 

[Meathead]

So what makes you inferior to black men athletic wise ?

And what makes you superior intelligence wise to black men ?

Genetics.

 

[Paul Essien]

Genetics.

What genetics ? And what is intelligence ?

The racial designations that we currently use are principally based on three characteristics.

1) Facial structure
2) Skin color
3) Hair texture.

Those are things that are controlled by six genes out of thirty thousand genes in the human genome but maybe you can show what no geneticist on the planet, no biologist on the planet that those things to be connected with intelligence

Any two humans are 99.9% genetically the same, according to the Human Genome Project. And even that 0.1% is mostly made up of individual differences. Only 6.3% of that 0.1% comes from differences between races . That's not me being PC and liberal. That's just how it is. You cannot, for example, tell a person’s race by looking at their brain or their heart.

Races have pretty much the same set of genes, just in different frequencies. And even those frequencies do not always fall along the lines of race. Skin colour changes as you go north to south. The frequency of blood type B changes as you go east to west.

As for this athletic thing then why do white and Asian dominates the Olympics ? And why do you find African Americans in the NBA but you won’t find many West Africans, who are certainly “blacker” and according to the theory, athleticism and blackness somehow run together, so you would expect West Africans to dominate the NBA and African teams to dominate international basketball competitions. But they don't. Why ?

But I'm sure you'll still say that black people are physically more capable of playing basketball. If that's true, why don't blacks dominate volleyball the same way ?

You have to be tall and have great jumping ability in volleyball Or why aren't all championship high jumpers black ? ,

 

[TNHarley]

If slavery kept the black american down, what keeps the black african down?