If "digging for dirt" were the only thing going on here, it would be quite normal.
As we all know, however, there is much more to the story.
And it is happening in the context of a much larger story. And it includes verifiable lies.
As we all know.
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do we really?
so far every allegation has fallen flat on its face. period. *this* is why i simply can't entertain another WE GOT YOU NOW YOU SUMBITCH! thread and hope from the left.
it's desperation to find ANYTHING
it's a witch hunt to be sure because as soon as one accusation falls, another takes its place. you don't even care WHAT you get him for, just that you do.
it also makes it very difficult when something like this comes up that could in fact be *real* to take the left seriously. they've already used up all credibility in the last 10 attempts to go HERE IS OUR PROOF!!!!
so while oldlady says i come across as defending trump - i'm honestly not. man does enough to warrant the criticism he gets to be sure. but when people make it so much more out of their own hate? i can never take that seriously. not anymore. crying WOLF eventually just leads to apathy.
having a news media outlet like CNN that is constant in their making shit up that i find it utterly hard to believe people still defend CNN. but then maybe like me they're defending a process or idea, not a person/entity. hard to say sometimes but CNN has abused their "power" far too much. i don't care trump is an ass - you don't make shit up about people.
we have verifiable lies all around. and much like WMD in iraq are they lies or are people making it that way cause they're not getting the end results THEY WANT? ie - trump is a liar so all he says is a lie. "well this wasn't a lie" SHUT UP TRUMP SUCKS YOU TRUMPER!!!
what the HELL is up with shit like that? but that's 80%+ of the convo in here and how people tend to act.
there are some things i'm glad trump is doing and there are some things i wish he'd stop doing. i can say this about any president whether i liked them or not. people now are just so hysterical in their fanaticism about him that everything they do is ok cause - TRUMP. his being trump excuses their behavior.
i don't play that game. at all.
so maybe more will come out of this. maybe not. to say this is their mindset all along cause someone mails jr and says "want some dirt" and he says "sure!" is also bullshit and to an agenda. did they go looking for it or was it brought to them? if brought to them HOW could this be their mindset?
now - is digging for dirt on your opponent the bad thing here? someone tell me what is the crime. digging is fine until it comes from a different gov? then great we should be mad at the brits for some of the shit they pulled against trump but as long as it's against trump, the rules don't apply.
as long as that is the case, you'll find me on the other side saying FUCK YOU YES THEY DO and if people take that as a trump defense, fine. but all sides need to play by the same rules with the same penalties for breaking them.
end of story.
so again - what is the crime here? not what did jr and the russian lawyer do - but the act itself - take out names, what is the crime? and you god damn better well believe i'm going to take that standard and use it against other instances where the rage doesn't exist and ask why.
and the answer better not be - TRUMP! or you just proved my point.