Britain has an ethnic problem

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Let’s face it: Britain has an ethnic problem. Its patchwork of peoples, once the envy of the world, has become frayed, its harmony devolving into anger and xenophobia. And, we should be honest, the problem is rooted in one ethnic group – one large but troubled people who are failing to integrate into modern postindustrial society.

While some of its more ambitious members have found success in politics and business, this community is falling behind educationally and economically as a whole, self-segregating into ethnic enclaves, becoming increasingly prone to violence, rioting and substance abuse. More troubling, in recent years they have begun to vote for ethnic extremist parties that threaten to undermine basic British values.

Who are these people? The English. Once a tolerant, welcoming people who thrived in scholarship and commerce, they have become a drag on British society.

They have become Britain’s problem group. Government figures show that “white English” students are now outperformed in school results by British children of Bangladeshi, Ghanaian, Indian, Sierra Leonean, Chinese, Sri Lankan, Vietnamese and Nigerian ancestry.

This was not always the case: A decade ago, it seemed as if Britons with darker skin colours were trapped behind the English in education and income. But it’s all changed: In 2009, Bangladeshi-British kids soared ahead of the English; black African kids caught up with them in 2010 and Pakistani kids are on course to pass them this year.

Unlike the island’s other ethnic groups, low-income members of the English community seem determined to stay poor and uneducated. Britain’s Department of Education has published figures listing how many low-income children achieved passing grades in secondary school in 2012. Sixty per cent of black African and Bangladeshi students did, about half of Pakistanis and black Caribbean kids did, 40 per cent of Indians did – and only three in 10 “white British” (mainly English) kids did, putting them at the bottom of the list.

On top of this – or perhaps because of it – the English are now self-segregating into isolated, and sometimes impoverished, uni-ethnic enclaves. Some 600,000 white English people moved out of the mixed-ethnicity districts of London between 2001 and 2011 for less integrated areas, while other ethnic groups moved into areas of higher diversity.

The English are more prone than other groups to drop out of school early, to live on welfare benefits, to become unhealthy and to engage in crime. In measures of alcohol abuse, “trouble with police while drinking” and lawbreaking, they outrank any other ethnic group in Britain (except the Irish). Riots led by ethnic English youths tore the cities of England apart in the summer of 2011, while ethnic Turks, Bangladeshis and Africans guarded shops and became heroes for rescuing people from the riots. There is a constant sense that the poor English are about to break out in violence.

This was one thing when it was all kept inside the English community, but it is now beginning to affect Britain’s future. Growing numbers of the ethnic English are casting votes for the extremist UK Independence Party, which seeks to end immigration and pull Britain out of Europe. The party seems poised to capture a third of Britain’s seats in next year’s European Parliament elections.

They are unlikely to win seats in national elections – they tend to spoil the Tory vote – but their threat has caused the English community’s traditional party, the Conservatives, to become less moderate. Prime Minister David Cameron has recently taken a weird turn into anti-immigrant nastiness, denying benefits to newcomers (even though immigrants rarely claim unemployment benefits) and buying into an implausible media theory about Romanians and Bulgarians flooding the country, all to appease the ethnic English.

These xenophobic attitudes are harming Britain’s economy. As the Economist recently wrote, the Prime Minister’s pledge to drive immigration below 100,000 a year has done serious damage – steep visa fees, quotas and restrictions have driven away foreign students, educated elites and investors, while many British companies are moving their operations overseas, where it’s easier to hire the best workers. And it is causing a fiscal crisis – according to the Office for Budget Responsibility, immigration rates will need to double if national debt is to be lowered to half its level (and UKIP’s immigration freeze would double public debt).

Don’t get me wrong about the English. I know quite a few English people who are rather decent (including my dear old Mum and Gran), and their culture is not without its charm. But they need help. Ethnic English numbers are growing, and if they’re allowed to gain any more influence in British society, they could be trouble.

Britain has an ethnic problem: the English - The Globe and Mail
 

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Why do they do so poorly in their own country but so well in ours??? Could it be that these are the cream of the crop or could it be something else?

What I am simply trying to say is why so poor as nations but so capable once in ours???
 
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The word 'English' is rather loosely applied these day, in my opinion. For instance, second generation Somalis born in the U.K. are now officially referred to as 'English', even though they have no real tribal allegiance to England.

In any event, I find it hard to disbelieve the premise of this article. There is no longer any real authority and/or discipline in English schools, and very little impetous for pupils of any skin colour to take advantage of the free education they're afforded, as so many of them intend to follow their parents' example and live off of the state.

Furthermore, it's becoming increasingly rare for young white English kids coming to me and my competitors looking for work. We offer more than the local shops can give them, but they seem revolted by the idea of hard work. Most of those approaching my sites/contracts are from Eastern Europe, and they value the money I pay them.
 

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Oh, I get it, there aren't enough of them.

This begs the question though, if Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis are so great, why are their respective countries so shitty? And why shouldn't we expect the UK to become more like those countries as more of them come in(as the UK already is)?
 
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Oh, I get it, therey

This begs the question though, if Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis are so great, why are their respective countries so shitty? And why shouldn't we expect the UK to become more like those countries as more of them come in(as the UK already is)?
Read the article again and this time pay attention and try to understand what it is trying to inform you.
 
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The word 'English' is rather loosely applied these day, in my opinion. For instance, second generation Somalis born in the U.K. are now officially referred to as 'English', even though they have no real tribal allegiance to England.

In any event, I find it hard to disbelieve the premise of this article. There is no longer any real authority and/or discipline in English schools, and very little impetous for pupils of any skin colour to take advantage of the free education they're afforded, as so many of them intend to follow their parents' example and live off of the state.

Furthermore, it's becoming increasingly rare for young white English kids coming to me and my competitors looking for work. We offer more than the local shops can give them, but they seem revolted by the idea of hard work. Most of those approaching my sites/contracts are from Eastern Europe, and they value the money I pay them.
Look at the chart and you will notice that Indian students are way above rest of them by far. That is pretty surprising, at least to me.
 

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Why do they do so poorly in their own country but so well in ours??? Could it be that these are the cream of the crop or could it be something else?

What I am simply trying to say is why so poor as nations but so capable once in ours???
Cream of the crop.
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Oh, I get it, there aren't enough of them

This begs the question though, if Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis are so great, why are their respective countries so shitty? And why shouldn't we expect the UK to become more like those countries as more of them come in(as the UK already is)?
Read the article again and this time pay attention and try to understand what it is trying to inform you.
The article fails to leave out that all those countries are third world shitholes, and if more of their lot will come in, Great Britain will become like them.

The majority of britons are fed up with immigration, rightfully so, they are on track to becoming a second class minority in their own homeland.
 

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The word 'English' is rather loosely applied these day, in my opinion. For instance, second generation Somalis born in the U.K. are now officially referred to as 'English', even though they have no real tribal allegiance to England.

In any event, I find it hard to disbelieve the premise of this article. There is no longer any real authority and/or discipline in English schools, and very little impetous for pupils of any skin colour to take advantage of the free education they're afforded, as so many of them intend to follow their parents' example and live off of the state.

Furthermore, it's becoming increasingly rare for young white English kids coming to me and my competitors looking for work. We offer more than the local shops can give them, but they seem revolted by the idea of hard work. Most of those approaching my sites/contracts are from Eastern Europe, and they value the money I pay them.
Look at the chart and you will notice that Indian students are way above rest of them by far. That is pretty surprising, at least to me.
You're just a bullshiting indian troll trying to promote the laughable idea that you guys are better than the British.
 

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There is some truth in this.

It all started when some clever English discovered they could live richer lives by accepting the benefits redistributed to them as the government undertook to equalize things by confiscating the wealth of those industrious newcomers.
 
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Why do they do so poorly in their own country but so well in ours??? Could it be that these are the cream of the crop or could it be something else?

What I am simply trying to say is why so poor as nations but so capable once in ours???
The entire premise of your post is wrong for following reasons:

a) This thread is not about India
b) This thread is about various ethnic groups in the UK

English, not Africans or Asians who were born and raised in the UK, as ethnic group are not doing very well in the UK.. This fact does bother some white supremacists but that is beyond the topic of this thread.
 
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Why do they do so poorly in their own country but so well in ours??? Could it be that these are the cream of the crop or could it be something else?

What I am simply trying to say is why so poor as nations but so capable once in ours???
Cream of the crop.
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These statics are about students in junior highs, senior highs and colleges. It is a possibility that some kids in colleges may have been recent immigrants but majority of the students that make up this statistics were born and raised in the UK. So unless you are suggesting cream of the crop is hereditary, you have no point.
 
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Oh, I get it, there aren't enough of them

This begs the question though, if Indians, Pakistanis, and Bangladeshis are so great, why are their respective countries so shitty? And why shouldn't we expect the UK to become more like those countries as more of them come in(as the UK already is)?
Read the article again and this time pay attention and try to understand what it is trying to inform you.
The article fails to leave out that all those countries are third world shitholes, and if more of their lot will come in, Great Britain will become like them.

The majority of britons are fed up with immigration, rightfully so, they are on track to becoming a second class minority in their own homeland.
Read the article again. Try to understand the statistics and what it is trying to inform you. It is quite possible that statistics is something your brain is not capable of grasping. In that case, give it a rest.

English (aka whites) are not doing well in the school.
 

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