BREAKING: What if Ukraine surrenders to Moscow empire , It will be the greatest betrayal of a European ally since Poland in 1945

[Litwin]

Well said most of the people in Britain Support the brave people of Ukraine . Always give a bully what they want, so they will stop bullying? Who in their right mind believes that? Giving a bully what they want only convinces the bully that bullying works and they bully some more.

 

[tyroneweaver]

the only way to reverse it would be to send in American troops
I don't think americans want that
As despicable as it taste. Putin won this one. But harsher and harsher tariffs etc, won't benefit him in the long run
Only thing really left is to isolate russia

 

[Rogue AI]

We'll get over it.

 

[Edgetho]

 

[kyzr]

The outline of the peace deal in Ukraine is:
1. not NATO membership but NATO peacekeepers
2. The new border to be determined, but I would guess that Russia gets to keep Crimea and Donbas.
3. no US peacekeepers in Ukraine

 

[Edgetho]

Pete Hegseth announced some of the parameters for a treaty. The US would agree that Ukraine will never join NATO, and the idea of Ukraine getting all of its former territory back is unrealistic. I don't think that even the Ukrainian Vassals in the Biden Administration ever claimed they'd fight to restore all of the former Ukrainian territory, so that part isn't exactly new. It's just recognizing reality.


More of Hegseth's speech:

Lord Bebo @MyLordBebo
FULL SPEECH: The US secretary of defense Hegseth says:

• The Bloodbath Must End
• Returning to Ukraine's pre-2014 borders is an unrealistic goal and pursuing this false goal will only increase suffering
  [*]The US does not believe that Ukraine's membership in NATO is a realistic outcome of the upcoming negotiations

• If there are any peacekeepers in Ukraine, it will not be under the auspices of NATO and not in accordance with Article 5 of the Charter
• US troops will not go to Ukraine, US military presence cannot be part of security guarantees
  [*]It is Europe that should provide Ukraine with more military aid

• 2% is not enough, Trump calls on Europe to increase military spending to 5% of GDP
  [*]The US is facing threats to its own borders and will focus on protecting them
  [*]Communist China is a threat to US borders and US prioritizes such threats
  [*]The US will no longer tolerate NATO's unequal defense policies that create dependency

 

[SeaMajor7]

Pete Hegseth announced some of the parameters for a treaty. The US would agree that Ukraine will never join NATO, and the idea of Ukraine getting all of its former territory back is unrealistic. I don't think that even the Ukrainian Vassals in the Biden Administration ever claimed they'd fight to restore all of the former Ukrainian territory, so that part isn't exactly new. It's just recognizing reality.


More of Hegseth's speech:

Thread worthy...

 

[Litwin]

the only way to reverse it would be to send in American troops
I don't think americans want that
As despicable as it taste. Putin won this one. But harsher and harsher tariffs etc, won't benefit him in the long run
Only thing really left is to isolate russia

 

[Blaster]

Well said most of the people in Britain Support the brave people of Ukraine . Always give a bully what they want, so they will stop bullying? Who in their right mind believes that? Giving a bully what they want only convinces the bully that bullying works and they bully some more.

**** Ukraine. You can always go there and fight with them.

 

[Edgetho]

Thread worthy...

Mine tend to get -- Ignored.

 

[Litwin]

Thread worthy...

I don't believe Trump will. Asiatic despot and war - criminal Saddam Putsein will not negotiate in good faith Trump knows he has massive levers he can use against Moscow empire...Sanctions can get much tougher, we can bring down oil prices a lot more, we can flood Ukraine with weapons including long-range weapons to accelerate crippling the horde 's economy.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Mine tend to get -- Ignored.

Same here, though I rarely make them.
This is Huge.

 

[Litwin]

fight with them.

ps **** you right back, putin´s cuckold

 

[Litwin]

Same here, though I rarely make them.
This is Huge.

who is this unknown, strange loser ?

 

[Edgetho]

Same here, though I rarely make them.
This is Huge.

Why does that guy have a melon on his face?

 

[SeaMajor7]

who is this unknown, strange loser ?

Who cares. This is great news.
You'll have to find something else to post about soon.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Why does that guy have a melon on his face?

Not sure what you mean, and don't care.
Don't shoot the messenger.

 

[Doc7505]

Well said most of the people in Britain Support the brave people of Ukraine . Always give a bully what they want, so they will stop bullying? Who in their right mind believes that? Giving a bully what they want only convinces the bully that bullying works and they bully some more.

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Well, it isn't happening.. In fact Russia's Putin has already made the move to start negotiations to end the war he started..
Will Russia give up all the the territory they've captured? Well, that's a start. The Crimea is important to both the Ukraine and Russia.
Is Putin willing to return it to the Ukraine in order to get back the land it lost in the Kursk duneblast?

 

[Litwin]

Why does that guy have a melon on his face?

one for sure, this loser films his shitt in an insane asylum for other patients

 

[mamooth]

Genius negotiator Trump opened negotiations, as he always does, with abject unconditional surrender.

His opening offer was that Russia keeps all conquered terrority, forever, and Ukraine can't join NATO or get any security guarantees. Trump will make more concessions from that.

I just hope that, if Trump gives away pieces of the USA to Russia, he'll at least give away the red states that love Russia.