Breaking News: 8 People Killed, Mostly Children In Florida.

[boedicca]

He had a previous record, but don't know what, other than he had served time.

He killed his son in 2001.

The man was a convicted felon and had a record of violence and murder.

Which is why the background checks on gun sales loopholes need to be closed.

First of all, there aren't any loopholes idiot. And second, you don't even know wether he owned the gun, borrowed it or stole it.

Calling me names isn't going to make what you said true or make what I said any less true.

There are loopholes in the background check law. People don't get background checks in private sales at gun shows and on line or face to face sales.

That's a loophole. A way to get around the intent of the law.

No we don't know how he got that gun but he sure didn't get it at a regular gun store. He wouldn't have been able to pass the background check.

He got it through a private transaction or from just borrowing it from someone else.

You can also go to some shady guy in a crappy neighborhood and get a piece. How does a background check law prevent that from happening?

It doesn't. But it does prevent the nonshady guys from being able to defend themselves from the shady guy.

 

[PredFan]

Only a progressive would be stupid enough to believe that if one law doesn't work, more laws will. They are also ignorant enough to believe that if you pass enough laws, you can stop an action and not infringe on the rights of the innocent. To be a progressive is to be an idiot.

 

[Picaro]

Well, it's certainly ridiculously stupid for many of the propaganda consumers to run around sniveling about controlling guns while in other threads supporting open borders, never mind how stupid that is as part of the ideological wars. If one can't see the idiotic futility of holding both of those cognitively dissonant memes then they should just be ignored and not taken seriously.

 

[ChrisL]

Well, it's certainly ridiculously stupid for many of the propaganda consumers to run around sniveling about controlling guns while in other threads supporting open borders, never mind how stupid that is as part of the ideological wars. If one can't see the idiotic futility of holding both of those cognitively dissonant memes then they should just be ignored and not taken seriously.

The progressives and liberals hold all kinds of contradictory views. To be progressive is to be a very confused individual. Lol!

 

[ChrisL]

I am not willing to give up ANY of my rights because of the actions of some lunatics who would kill anyway.

ChrisL

So, what you are saying is that you could not pass a background check for gun ownership, and you are not going to give up your right to buy a gun, anyway.[/QUOTE]

So, what you are saying is that you must be partially retarded?

 

[Moonglow]

Only a progressive would be stupid enough to believe that if one law doesn't work, more laws will. They are also ignorant enough to believe that if you pass enough laws, you can stop an action and not infringe on the rights of the innocent. To be a progressive is to be an idiot.

Yeah, drug testing school kids id most invasive...

 

[Moonglow]

Well, it's certainly ridiculously stupid for many of the propaganda consumers to run around sniveling about controlling guns while in other threads supporting open borders, never mind how stupid that is as part of the ideological wars. If one can't see the idiotic futility of holding both of those cognitively dissonant memes then they should just be ignored and not taken seriously.

The progressives and liberals hold all kinds of contradictory views. To be progressive is to be a very confused individual. Lol!

Like the progressive Women's Suffrage movement.....??? Progressives like Abe Lincoln freeing the slaves, just irresponsible actions by progressives..

 

[Geaux4it]

Murder suicide. Just heard it on fox.

BFD

Dog bites man

-Geaux

 

[Geaux4it]

Well, it's certainly ridiculously stupid for many of the propaganda consumers to run around sniveling about controlling guns while in other threads supporting open borders, never mind how stupid that is as part of the ideological wars. If one can't see the idiotic futility of holding both of those cognitively dissonant memes then they should just be ignored and not taken seriously.

The progressives and liberals hold all kinds of contradictory views. To be progressive is to be a very confused individual. Lol!

We should make all Muslims go through a back ground check too

-Geaux

 

[ChrisL]

Well, it's certainly ridiculously stupid for many of the propaganda consumers to run around sniveling about controlling guns while in other threads supporting open borders, never mind how stupid that is as part of the ideological wars. If one can't see the idiotic futility of holding both of those cognitively dissonant memes then they should just be ignored and not taken seriously.

The progressives and liberals hold all kinds of contradictory views. To be progressive is to be a very confused individual. Lol!

Like the progressive Women's Suffrage movement.....??? Progressives like Abe Lincoln freeing the slaves, just irresponsible actions by progressives..

Unfortunately, the modern progressives apparently don't understand real life. They are really horrible.

 

[ChrisL]

Well, it's certainly ridiculously stupid for many of the propaganda consumers to run around sniveling about controlling guns while in other threads supporting open borders, never mind how stupid that is as part of the ideological wars. If one can't see the idiotic futility of holding both of those cognitively dissonant memes then they should just be ignored and not taken seriously.

The progressives and liberals hold all kinds of contradictory views. To be progressive is to be a very confused individual. Lol!

We should make all Muslims go through a back ground check too

-Geaux

Why not? They are dangerous and kill people.

 

[Moonglow]

Well, it's certainly ridiculously stupid for many of the propaganda consumers to run around sniveling about controlling guns while in other threads supporting open borders, never mind how stupid that is as part of the ideological wars. If one can't see the idiotic futility of holding both of those cognitively dissonant memes then they should just be ignored and not taken seriously.

The progressives and liberals hold all kinds of contradictory views. To be progressive is to be a very confused individual. Lol!

Like the progressive Women's Suffrage movement.....??? Progressives like Abe Lincoln freeing the slaves, just irresponsible actions by progressives..

Unfortunately, the modern progressives apparently don't understand real life. They are really horrible.

I narrowed it down to just drugs, sex and rock-n-roll...

 

[Geaux4it]

Well, it's certainly ridiculously stupid for many of the propaganda consumers to run around sniveling about controlling guns while in other threads supporting open borders, never mind how stupid that is as part of the ideological wars. If one can't see the idiotic futility of holding both of those cognitively dissonant memes then they should just be ignored and not taken seriously.

The progressives and liberals hold all kinds of contradictory views. To be progressive is to be a very confused individual. Lol!

We should make all Muslims go through a back ground check too

-Geaux

Why not? They are dangerous and kill people.

For reals. Except they use bombs and very sharp knives

-Geaux

 

[Moonglow]

Well, it's certainly ridiculously stupid for many of the propaganda consumers to run around sniveling about controlling guns while in other threads supporting open borders, never mind how stupid that is as part of the ideological wars. If one can't see the idiotic futility of holding both of those cognitively dissonant memes then they should just be ignored and not taken seriously.

The progressives and liberals hold all kinds of contradictory views. To be progressive is to be a very confused individual. Lol!

We should make all Muslims go through a back ground check too

-Geaux

Why not? They are dangerous and kill people.

Only Muslims kill people?

 

[Moonglow]

Well, it's certainly ridiculously stupid for many of the propaganda consumers to run around sniveling about controlling guns while in other threads supporting open borders, never mind how stupid that is as part of the ideological wars. If one can't see the idiotic futility of holding both of those cognitively dissonant memes then they should just be ignored and not taken seriously.

The progressives and liberals hold all kinds of contradictory views. To be progressive is to be a very confused individual. Lol!

We should make all Muslims go through a back ground check too

-Geaux

Why not? They are dangerous and kill people.

For reals. Except they use bombs and very sharp knives

-Geaux

Are you lamenting the pussification modern Christians?

 

[Geaux4it]

Well, it's certainly ridiculously stupid for many of the propaganda consumers to run around sniveling about controlling guns while in other threads supporting open borders, never mind how stupid that is as part of the ideological wars. If one can't see the idiotic futility of holding both of those cognitively dissonant memes then they should just be ignored and not taken seriously.

The progressives and liberals hold all kinds of contradictory views. To be progressive is to be a very confused individual. Lol!

We should make all Muslims go through a back ground check too

-Geaux

Why not? They are dangerous and kill people.

Only Muslims kill people?

Have a serious question? For this discussion, guns and Muslims. Thanks

-Geaux

 

[ChrisL]

Well, it's certainly ridiculously stupid for many of the propaganda consumers to run around sniveling about controlling guns while in other threads supporting open borders, never mind how stupid that is as part of the ideological wars. If one can't see the idiotic futility of holding both of those cognitively dissonant memes then they should just be ignored and not taken seriously.

The progressives and liberals hold all kinds of contradictory views. To be progressive is to be a very confused individual. Lol!

We should make all Muslims go through a back ground check too

-Geaux

Why not? They are dangerous and kill people.

For reals. Except they use bombs and very sharp knives

-Geaux

Or dull old rusty knives with which it takes a good half an hour to saw the head off, whatever is convenient. I'd prefer to be shot with a gun any day!

 

[ChrisL]

Well, it's certainly ridiculously stupid for many of the propaganda consumers to run around sniveling about controlling guns while in other threads supporting open borders, never mind how stupid that is as part of the ideological wars. If one can't see the idiotic futility of holding both of those cognitively dissonant memes then they should just be ignored and not taken seriously.

The progressives and liberals hold all kinds of contradictory views. To be progressive is to be a very confused individual. Lol!

We should make all Muslims go through a back ground check too

-Geaux

Why not? They are dangerous and kill people.

Only Muslims kill people?

Only guns kill people?

 

[depotoo]

Don Spirit Florida shooting Florida town knew shooter had troubled past - ABC15 Arizona
In 2001, Don Spirit was convicted in a case where he accidentally shot and killed his 8-year-old son, Kyle, Sarah's younger brother. A 2003 story by the Orlando Sentinel said that on a walk through the woods with Kyle and an older son, Spirit pointed out rust on the muzzle of his rifle. The rifle fired, hitting Kyle in the head. Because of an earlier felony conviction for marijuana possession, Don Spirit couldn't legally possess a gun and spent nearly three years in prison...

...Both of the men who fathered Sarah Spirit's children are locked up. Edward Kuhlman, who was the father of the three oldest children, is in state prison for a dozen burglary and grand theft charges. He was serving a 25-year sentence. James Stewart is in Levy County jail on a probation violation charge, according to online records. A message with the jail was not immediately returned.
...
It's unclear when Don Spirit first arrived in Bell. Criminal records show he was in the Tampa area in the mid- to late-1990s. There, he was charged with a variety of offenses, including leaving the scene of an accident involving death. The details of that case couldn't be obtained Friday
...According to Gilchrist County criminal records, Sarah Spirit was arrested Aug. 26 for violating her probation. It's unclear when she was released...
............
death seemed to surround this guy.

 

[depotoo]

But after relocating, Spirit, who left prison in 2006, would be charged with several misdemeanors and felonies. In 2008, he spent nearly four months in jail on a battery charge, and in 2009 he was put on probation after a DUI charge was reduced to reckless driving.Spirit’s children also had brushes with the law. Sarah Spirit, who was killed Thursday, was charged with grand theft last year and served probation.Two of the men who fathered her slain children are serving time in prison.Reuters reported late Friday that Sarah Spirit had gone to court in 2008 to request protection from her father but did not follow through with authorities.Read more here: Mass killing of 7 horrifies Florida town The Miami Herald

my question, with his history, why was the dui reduced? Why only 3 years after he killed his son, with felonies involving deaths, and battery previously?