Breaking: Biden Fails To Comply With House Oversight Committee Investigation Into Top-Secret Docs After Promising "Highest Standards In Transparency"

[Lisa558]

Really? How so? Trump fought them tooth and nail to try to keep them from getting the documents. Biden cooperated, and is helping them to get everything he might have. Then only "unequal" thing in this equation is the level of cooperation.

Biden isn’t cooperating. They are continuing to find more hidden documents. He is only “cooperating” to the extent that once they’re found, he’s not fighting their return.

You‘re basically saying that as long as a criminal doesn’t fight when authorities recover stolen goods, there’s no crime.

Also, the ACTUAL “unequal” thing is this equation is that one person has the authority to remove the documents and thus was not hiding them, and the other person stole them and had them stashed in a drawer marked “personal” and in a corner of his garage.

 

[Cellblock2429]

And the article never states that Biden has failed to comply, the complaint is that the National Archives has failed to comply. Reading comprehension not your strong suit I see.

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[struth]

Biden isn’t cooperating. They are continuing to find more hidden documents. He is only “cooperating” to the extent that once they’re found, he’s not fighting their return.

You‘re basically saying that as long as a criminal doesn’t fight when authorities recover stolen goods, there’s no crime.

Also, the ACTUAL “unequal” thing is this equation is that one person has the authority to remove the documents and thus was not hiding them, and the other person stole them and had them stashed in a drawer marked “personal” and in a corner of his garage.

and these items aren’t mixed with personal items for him to say let my staff reciew stuff like clinton and trump could argue

 

[Lisa558]

Does it show Biden giving Hunter all these documents…any documents?

It shows he left them in the garage where Hunter had total access. That right there is a crime.

And Hunter, a useless crackhead, was pulling in millions from foreign countries. Connect the dots.

 

[jbrownson0831]

It shows he left them in the garage where Hunter had total access. That right there is a crime.

And Hunter, a useless crackhead, was pulling in millions from foreign countries. Connect the dots.

Dims really showing their hypocrite side now......

 

[struth]

It shows he left them in the garage where Hunter had total access. That right there is a crime.

And Hunter, a useless crackhead, was pulling in millions from foreign countries. Connect the dots.

don’t forget the documents at the private office…hunter had access the as well

 

[Lisa558]

Why shouldn’t tbe VP be able to do this? Actually, a number of government officials can classify and declassify material.

And are they then allowed to leave it in their garage so their drug-addicted son can get rich selling it to the Communists?

 

[Lisa558]

Dims really showing their hypocrite side now......

They are really counting on the ignorance of the useful idiots to believe them.

 

[Lisa558]

Food for thought:

Isn't it curious that his aides found the documents only AFTER Biden was making noises about running again?

 

[Coyote]

And are they then allowed to leave it in their garage so their drug-addicted son can get rich selling it to the Communists?

Do you normally misread posts? How many repetitions do you need? If you can’t follow a conversation, don’t respond.

 

[Coyote]

It shows he left them in the garage where Hunter had total access. That right there is a crime.

Actually, not exactly. Here is the law:

18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

www.law.cornell.edu

Whether or not it is a crime depends on ”knowingly” and “intent”. Regardless of whether it is a crime, it is still bad and concerning, and I’m glad they appointed a special counsel in both cases to depoliticized it.

I think the right is way too obsessed with Hunter Biden, given you have no actual evidence of most what you claim. He is under investigation but it seems to be tax fraud. The point of Biden’s 20 documents and Trump’s 300 documents being insecure is anyone could potentially access them.

And Hunter, a useless crackhead, was pulling in millions from foreign countries. Connect the dots.

Yes connect the dots…like you know, Trump pulling millions from China and keeping a secret Chinese bank account , son-in-law Jared’s lucrative Saudi deal…

 

[jbrownson0831]

Actually, not exactly. Here is the law:

18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

www.law.cornell.edu

Whether or not it is a crime depends on ”knowingly” and “intent”. Regardless of whether it is a crime, it is still bad and concerning, and I’m glad they appointed a special counsel in both cases to depoliticized it.

I think the right is way too obsessed with Hunter Biden, given you have no actual evidence of most what you claim. He is under investigation but it seems to be tax fraud. The point of Biden’s 20 documents and Trump’s 300 documents being insecure is anyone could potentially access them.


Yes connect the dots…like you know, Trump pulling millions from China and keeping a secret Chinese bank account , son-in-law Jared’s lucrative Saudi deal…

Poopeypants has no right to access and remove documents as VP, simple as that. Trumps removal was while he was still president and still had every right to them.

 

[jbrownson0831]

Do you normally misread posts? How many repetitions do you need? If you can’t follow a conversation, don’t respond.

Whiny hypocrites.

 

[Winston]

I said Obama spent tens of millions to keep his documents (by the way, he spent tax payer money to keep his documents, not his own money). You said "Try again". I proved that i am right by posting that article. Up to speed now?

Here is a link to your own words....

Breaking: Biden Fails To Comply With House Oversight Committee Investigation Into Top-Secret Docs After Promising "Highest Standards In Transparency"

geez you are jus gonna troll All you have to do is provide proof. But you refuse. Probably because you are a liar who can’t back up their statements.

www.usmessageboard.com

Obama, or more accurately, his administration, spent that money fighting freedom of information requests for access to public documents. LMAO

 

[Lisa558]

Do you normally misread posts? How many repetitions do you need? If you can’t follow a conversation, don’t respond.

Do you normally ignore aspects of posts that you can’t defend? Whether or not Biden had authority to declassify them, he committed a crime by leaving them out where his drug-addicted son could make use of them, and, strangely enough, raked in millions from the Communists and then had to kick back a fortune to Daddy, who enabled it.

 

[Coyote]

Biden isn’t cooperating. They are continuing to find more hidden documents. He is only “cooperating” to the extent that once they’re found, he’s not fighting their return.

That makes no sense. First, he would have to know exactly what he had and where they were. I tend to doubt that. It is most likely carelessness that led to them being mixed in with personal documents. If that is the case he would only be aware of them as they come up. The fact they are searching for more and have done nothing to obstruct it indicates cooperation.

The metric you are attempting to use for cooperation becomes a Catch 22.

You‘re basically saying that as long as a criminal doesn’t fight when authorities recover stolen goods, there’s no crime.

First off, there is no criminal involved here nor yet any crime, unless you know of charges that no one else does. Theft requires intent, as in intentionally stealing and retaining stolen goods. That too has not been proven. Your comparison ends up being a false equivalency.

theft

www.law.cornell.edu

Theft is the taking of another person’s personal property with the intent of depriving that person of the use of their property.

Also, the ACTUAL “unequal” thing is this equation is that one person has the authority to remove the documents and thus was not hiding them, and the other person stole them and had them stashed in a drawer marked “personal” and in a corner of his garage.

It is so bizarre that you are willing to completely absolve someone, who played with our national security recklessly, with those kind of fraudulent excuses.

Both the President and the Vice President have the authority to access and remove classified documents.

Both the President and the Vice President have the authority to classify and declassify documents.

Source: Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information

Trump mixed classified documents with personal material.
Source: A detailed inventory of the items recovered in the Mar-a-Lago raid shows that Trump kept classified documents mixed in with personal items like clothes and magazines

Trump stored them in an improperly secured storeroom and in his personal office, strewn about carelessly.

The differences you are trying to draw to prove “intent” can easily apply to both men.

Also applicable to BOTH men is that once they left office, the documents no longer belonged to them, they belonged to the American people in the form of NARA.

 

[Lisa558]

That makes no sense. First, he would have to know exactly what he had and where they were. I tend to doubt that. It is most likely carelessness that led to them being mixed in with personal documents. If that is the case he would only be aware of them as they come up. The fact they are searching for more and have done nothing to obstruct it indicates cooperation.

The metric you are attempting to use for cooperation becomes a Catch 22.




First off, there is no criminal involved here nor yet any crime, unless you know of charges that no one else does. Theft requires intent, as in intentionally stealing and retaining stolen goods. That too has not been proven. Your comparison ends up being a false equivalency.

theft

www.law.cornell.edu

Theft is the taking of another person’s personal property with the intent of depriving that person of the use of their property.



It is so bizarre that you are willing to completely absolve someone, who played with our national security recklessly, with those kind of fraudulent excuses.

Both the President and the Vice President have the authority to access and remove classified documents.

Both the President and the Vice President have the authority to classify and declassify documents.

Source: Executive Order 13526- Classified National Security Information

Trump mixed classified documents with personal material.
Source: A detailed inventory of the items recovered in the Mar-a-Lago raid shows that Trump kept classified documents mixed in with personal items like clothes and magazines

Trump stored them in an improperly secured storeroom and in his personal office, strewn about carelessly.

The differences you are trying to draw to prove “intent” can easily apply to both men.

Also applicable to BOTH men is that once they left office, the documents no longer belonged to them, they belonged to the American people in the form of NARA.

You’re still flailing around. Being careless with top-secret classified information, so much so you don’t even know where in the house you stashed them, is a CRIME. Even worse is doing so when you have given access to your crackhead son, who is suddenly raking in millions.

Intent is not required.

 

[Coyote]

Do you normally ignore aspects of posts that you can’t defend?

It’s irrelevant. I haven’t defended it. Here is one more repetition. Keeping classified material in an insecure location violates the law. Intentionally retaining that material after leaving office violates the law.

Whether or not Biden had authority to declassify them, he committed a crime by leaving them out

As did Trump…

However, whether it is a crime in both cases depends on intent (read the law).

where his drug-addicted son could make use of them,

Or a Chinese spy that easily got into MaraLago.

and, strangely enough, raked in millions from the Communists and then had to kick back a fortune to Daddy, who enabled it.

And not strangely, a claim untethered to evidence.

 

[Coyote]

You’re still flailing around. Being careless with top-secret classified information, so much so you don’t even know where in the house you stashed them, is a CRIME. Even worse is doing so when you have given access to your crackhead son, who is suddenly raking in millions.

Intent is not required.

Read the law.

 

[MAGA Macho Man]

But yes, a VP, as has been shown.

No. Once he's out of office, classified documents and briefings are off limits.