#BoycottStarbucks Trending on Twitter After Getting 2 Blacks Arrested for Using Bathroom

Again, as a business owner if one of my managers had acted in such a manner as to alienate potential customers who (at the time) were not causing any disruptions that manager would be looking for employment elsewhere.
Even if the ultimate purpose of said manager's action served the interests of your business? We haven't heard from that manager yet. Could be she had good cause to want those two characters gone.

As soon as the basic element of this incident was announced an infectious cry of "racism" arose and the eager emulators of Al Sharpton and John Brown drew their swords. But there still are questions that must be asked and answered.
 
Again, as a business owner if one of my managers had acted in such a manner as to alienate potential customers who (at the time) were not causing any disruptions that manager would be looking for employment elsewhere.
Even if the ultimate purpose of said manager's action served the interests of your business? We haven't heard from that manager yet. Could be she had good cause to want those two characters gone.

As soon as the basic element of this incident was announced an infectious cry of "racism" arose and the eager emulators of Al Sharpton and John Brown drew their swords. But there still are questions that must be asked and answered.
Yet I wasn't the one yelling "racism"......... Reading it in anything I posted is called projection.
 
Speculation. Try to stick to the facts at hand, it's what (even us former) law enforcement personnel are trained to do........
I am not a former law-enforcement person and I am sticking to the facts at hand, which are the manager of that business premises had a right to ask those non-customers to leave -- and they were obliged to either become customers, by buying something, or to leave.
 
It has nothing to do with race. Go into any restaurant or coffee shop, sit down and don't order you will be told to leave. Say you are waiting for someone and you will be asked what you want while you are waiting. It is a business. If you are not on the premises for a business purpose, you are a tresspasser. The two men were rightfully arrested.
No, they were arrested for pottying while black.
They were not customers.
We both know whites would never have been confronted.

Lucky the cops didn't shoot them.
Whites would have ordered something. This is black privilege.

Poor loser. You’ve clearly never been in a Starbucks.

Now run along bigot scum.
How can anyone pass up paying $4 for burnt coffee?
 
Speculation. Try to stick to the facts at hand, it's what (even us former) law enforcement personnel are trained to do........
I am not a former law-enforcement person and I am sticking to the facts at hand, which are the manager of that business premises had a right to ask those non-customers to leave -- and they were obliged to either become customers, by buying something, or to leave.
What about the rest of the facts?
Now I never said they shouldn't have left when asked to, what I'm questioning is what prompted the manager to demand two depart the premises when they apparently were showing no signs of disruptive behavior (that we know of). Did the manager have a valid reason (aside from two potential customers taking up space) to demand they leave? Don't know. As for the facts we have, other than a policy that I have never seen enforced even at establishments that have similar policies, two men were seated in an establishment not causing any problems. For whatever reason the manager decided they needed to leave. They refused (bad move on their part) so the police were involved. They still refused to leave and were arrested (which is the proper procedure under these circumstances). Regardless of the policy which I would like to know if it is regularly enforced or not, why did the manager demand they leave? Not claiming racism just wondering why because, having been involved in these situations in the past the only times the policy was acted upon is when a customer was being disruptive and refusing to leave. On a couple of occasions it was management that cause the problem in the first place which is why I'm questioning this manager's motivation. Nothing more, nothing less.
You see it isn't always as cut and dried as some would believe.
 
Blue on blue. Love it.
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Speculation. Try to stick to the facts at hand, it's what (even us former) law enforcement personnel are trained to do........
I am not a former law-enforcement person and I am sticking to the facts at hand, which are the manager of that business premises had a right to ask those non-customers to leave -- and they were obliged to either become customers, by buying something, or to leave.
What about the rest of the facts?
Now I never said they shouldn't have left when asked to, what I'm questioning is what prompted the manager to demand two depart the premises when they apparently were showing no signs of disruptive behavior (that we know of). Did the manager have a valid reason (aside from two potential customers taking up space) to demand they leave? Don't know. As for the facts we have, other than a policy that I have never seen enforced even at establishments that have similar policies, two men were seated in an establishment not causing any problems. For whatever reason the manager decided they needed to leave. They refused (bad move on their part) so the police were involved. They still refused to leave and were arrested (which is the proper procedure under these circumstances). Regardless of the policy which I would like to know if it is regularly enforced or not, why did the manager demand they leave? Not claiming racism just wondering why because, having been involved in these situations in the past the only times the policy was acted upon is when a customer was being disruptive and refusing to leave. On a couple of occasions it was management that cause the problem in the first place which is why I'm questioning this manager's motivation. Nothing more, nothing less.
You see it isn't always as cut and dried as some would believe.
Many a time I head to the head first in fast food joints. They could have been doing the same.
Obviously Starbucks is Whites Only.
 
Non paying people routinely coming in and shitting the toilet, working on the computer all day long? I find that hard to believe.

I have no knowledge of what they do in the bathroom, since I don't follow people in.

But people just sitting in a Starbucks working? Pretty common.
You can sit at Starbucks all you want. The point is whether or not they pay. Get it?

I do indeed. I also get that if I am meeting a friend for coffee, I wait and order when they get there. It is common good manners. Do you get it?
Is that what happened or are you twisting yourself into a pretzel to make excuses for these negroes?

Making excuses for these negroes? I am not making excuses for anyone. They repeatedly said they were waiting for their friend.
Yeah, waiting for him so hard they didn't leave even when the cops told them to.
In looking for information about the friend, I ran into some backup for my claim that it is common for people to sit in Starbucks for hours without buying anything.
Starbucks manager who called 911 on black men ‘no longer at that store’
"The Starbucks official acknowledged that the incident is at odds with a common practice at Starbucks. The stores are “community” hubs, the official said, where people often drop in to use the WiFi or chat with friends without necessarily buying anything."
That's funny. Someone should tell him to hurry up and take down all those customer parking only signs that pop up all over the place on google from various starbucks locations. They can change them to "starbucks visitors only."

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"The Starbucks official acknowledged that the incident is at odds with a common practice at Starbucks. The stores are “community” hubs, the official said, where people often drop in to use the WiFi or chat with friends without necessarily buying anything."

WOW. Well there's another reason to never stop foot in a Starbucks location. It's a welcome home for vagrants and other wastes of flesh and oxygen.
 
The company was founded on the premise that Starbucks would be a comfortable third place for people to work and socialize; the first two places being home and office. Come in anytime and stay as long as you want with no pressure to buy anything. This was part of the Starbucks culture which created millions of devoted customers. However as Starbucks expanded into very high traffic locations, the big overstuffed chairs, and fireplaces became small tables and stand up bars. Every inch of space was used. I have no doubt that customers that sit for expended periods without ordering would be asked to leave.

Maybe they might want to make an announcement then? Change their corporate motto? I'm fine with Caribou, they are our 'home grown' go to for coffee. But Starbucks still needs to be honest with where they are now if they don't want this snowball to avalanche.

You know how ill-mannered we snowflakes are.
Most Starbuck stores are located in shopping centers and near major shopping and restaurant areas. In these stores, the atmosphere is usually very casual and laid back. My experience has been you can sit in one of these stores for hours and no one is going to suggest you leave. I was in a Starbucks in New York last year and believe me, no one would want to sit in one these places for long. It was crowded and noisy, the kind of place you grab a cup of coffee on the way to work.

Starbucks policies are all about social responsibility, business code of conduct, human rights, equal opportunity, healthcare, and all the things that drives conservatives nuts. This of course is the primary reason why this story is relished so by conservatives; the most liberal and pc oriented major business ejects two black men presenting an opportunity to build a case of discrimination.

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Starbucks can be considered a model, as you describe it,for what liberals want of our society.


Yet we can see that, even when liberals get what they want, it does not lead to racial harmony.

At least one lib was talking ominously of how Starbucks needs to do this or that, before this "avalanches".


This bodes ill for the future, if demographic shift gives liberals the power to remake society as they see fit.
An organization can provide leadership but not all members will follow. In the case of Starbucks, there're over 250,000 employees. Being a liberal is not a requirement to work at Starbucks.

I bet that very few of their managers, are not liberals.

Just a coincidink, not that they would discriminate or anything like that. Oh, NO.

BUT, regardless, Stabucks did nothing wrong and is responding as a liberal would want, throwing the hard working manager to the wolves, and "taking responsibility" and taking steps so nothing as horrible as a manager asking black non customers to leave will ever happen again.


And still they are being mobbed with protesters.

THis bodes ill for the future.
You're probably right. Young people are attracted to companies with high ideals. However, free coffee, a commitment to global human rights, and a cult like atmosphere does not pay the bills.
 
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"This property is for paying customers only"
God forbid you have colored people coming in and do just that and you get branded racist.. This country is so ******* sad.
 
I have been waiting for people in innumerable restaurants and coffee shops and always told I had to order something. If the restaurant had a waiting area I was allowed to wait there. Not many restaurants will allow non customers to take up a seat.

Depends on where you live and how busy they are. Some will seat you just to not be clogging their doorway. Some don't care either way. I don't do Starbucks so I am not sure how they work As I have only walked through their line a couple times on the go.

Starbucks isnt really a restaurant. Ive waited for people and not ordered anything...but most of those times a barista came and asked & I ordered a small something. People sit on their devices and hang out, job interviews are done. (usually with empty cups sitting there)
If it was my place of business, even a small coffeeshop Id expect people to order something...not just use the free wifi
 
Again, as a business owner if one of my managers had acted in such a manner as to alienate potential customers who (at the time) were not causing any disruptions that manager would be looking for employment elsewhere.
Even if the ultimate purpose of said manager's action served the interests of your business? We haven't heard from that manager yet. Could be she had good cause to want those two characters gone.

As soon as the basic element of this incident was announced an infectious cry of "racism" arose and the eager emulators of Al Sharpton and John Brown drew their swords. But there still are questions that must be asked and answered.
she did...but the MSM doesn't care about common sense/laws
Philadelphia Starbucks manager claims loitering was ongoing problem | Daily Mail Online

unless the same manager allowed whites to use the restroom, race has nothing to do with this .....
..yet another time blacks refuse to obey lawful, common sense orders and they are made out to be victims of racism ...
...hey blacks--if you keep doing stupid crap, and not listening --you will keep putting your hand in the fire over and over and over
 
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