Black farmer looks to rethink stigma of picking cotton

[horselightning]

Black farmer looks to rethink stigma of picking cotton

Old images of African Americans picking cotton remind many of the oppression suffered by generations of Black slaves before the Emancipation Proclamation. For Black Americans in particular, their history with this famous crop, that helps clothe the world, is complicated. Now Julius Tillery, a...

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liberals writing anything to keep the racism going. Never mind that most farmers are white. Never mind they also come generations farming and cotton picking too. liberals starting up the racism again.

 

[whitehall]

You gotta be kidding. Where do they come up with this stuff? Personally I wish the pillow guy would use good old American cotton in his sheets instead of shilling for Egyptian cotton farmers.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

He says he was forced to pick cotton. He said “us”. He must be at least 180 years old by now.

 

[Arlette]

Black farmer looks to rethink stigma of picking cotton

Old images of African Americans picking cotton remind many of the oppression suffered by generations of Black slaves before the Emancipation Proclamation. For Black Americans in particular, their history with this famous crop, that helps clothe the world, is complicated. Now Julius Tillery, a...

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liberals writing anything to keep the racism going. Never mind that most farmers are white. Never mind they also come generations farming and cotton picking too. liberals starting up the racism again.

This ^^ is the grammar poorly educated racists subject the board members to. It needs to stop. I'm reporting horse apples. I hope he gets suspended or banned.

 

[JohnDB]

Black farmer looks to rethink stigma of picking cotton

Old images of African Americans picking cotton remind many of the oppression suffered by generations of Black slaves before the Emancipation Proclamation. For Black Americans in particular, their history with this famous crop, that helps clothe the world, is complicated. Now Julius Tillery, a...

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liberals writing anything to keep the racism going. Never mind that most farmers are white. Never mind they also come generations farming and cotton picking too. liberals starting up the racism again.

The first person to use slave labor in the America's was a black man. He wasn't white.
And the slavery of Negroes from Africa in the Southern areas was the result of economic oppression by the Northern colonies.

The Northern States petitioned congress and the President on a regular basis for subsidies....for cloth manufacturing machinery, for all kinds of industrial machines and including ship building while Southern States got nothing....and even what they had in industrial capacity was taken from them by wealthy Northern industrialists getting subsidies from the Federal Government. Even the Southern Docks were controlled by the North. So that the North could purchase Southern Agricultural products below market value.

So where yes, the South used slaves it was the only way they could survive the oppression created by the Federal Government and greedy Northern industrialists controlling all transportation, industry, and incomes.
So when the North started their virtue signaling by wanting to stop slavery...it was basically the North saying they wanted to completely bankrupt everyone in the South...when they had already essentially enslaved everyone there already.

 

[Persuader]

The first person to use slave labor in the America's was a black man. He wasn't white.
And the slavery of Negroes from Africa in the Southern areas was the result of economic oppression by the Northern colonies.

The Northern States petitioned congress and the President on a regular basis for subsidies....for cloth manufacturing machinery, for all kinds of industrial machines and including ship building while Southern States got nothing....and even what they had in industrial capacity was taken from them by wealthy Northern industrialists getting subsidies from the Federal Government. Even the Southern Docks were controlled by the North. So that the North could purchase Southern Agricultural products below market value.

So where yes, the South used slaves it was the only way they could survive the oppression created by the Federal Government and greedy Northern industrialists controlling all transportation, industry, and incomes.
So when the North started their virtue signaling by wanting to stop slavery...it was basically the North saying they wanted to completely bankrupt everyone in the South...when they had already essentially enslaved everyone there already.

The greatest contribution Blacks made to America was picking cotton....now most of them do not even work....some black families have not worked in generations...many of them are now unemployable even if they want to work...by the time they get out of H.S. their rap sheets are so long no employer will touch them.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

There is no stigma in working for a living.
Getting paid for doing nothing with your life is a different matter however

 

[sparky]

Never mind that most farmers are white

yeah but, my neck is so red it can be seen from space......~S~

 

[Persuader]

yeah but, my neck is so red it can be seen from space......~S~

There was a cotton farmer down the road from where I grew up and he paid us kids ten cents a pound or therabouts....I did not make much money.

There was a talent or technique good cotton pickers had...l never acquired it.

and to think.......so many raised a family by doing that....nothing wrong with it but dirt farmers got no respect....generations of poverty...brutal way of life....thus in my college days I became a marxist...jus for a lil while...mainly because girls liked revolutionaries...I made sure to keep a picture of Karl Marx over my bed in Berkley

I had a great time in Berkley circa 1970...there was something like electricity in the air...so much energy there back then.

How foolish we were.

As Plato or some great thinker said....'all I know is that I know nothing"

 

[Cellblock2429]

The first person to use slave labor in the America's was a black man. He wasn't white.
And the slavery of Negroes from Africa in the Southern areas was the result of economic oppression by the Northern colonies.

The Northern States petitioned congress and the President on a regular basis for subsidies....for cloth manufacturing machinery, for all kinds of industrial machines and including ship building while Southern States got nothing....and even what they had in industrial capacity was taken from them by wealthy Northern industrialists getting subsidies from the Federal Government. Even the Southern Docks were controlled by the North. So that the North could purchase Southern Agricultural products below market value.

So where yes, the South used slaves it was the only way they could survive the oppression created by the Federal Government and greedy Northern industrialists controlling all transportation, industry, and incomes.
So when the North started their virtue signaling by wanting to stop slavery...it was basically the North saying they wanted to completely bankrupt everyone in the South...when they had already essentially enslaved everyone there already.

/----/ And as a Southerner, let me say at the end of the day, slavery is a sin against God and man and had to be stopped.
The South was slow to adopt new technology, build railroads, and break away from the traditions that held them back.
The South could have opened new ports not controlled by the North. They had one continuous coastline from Virginia to Texas, and don't forget the Mississippi River.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

My dad picked cotton when he was child during the Depression.
People did what they could to survive.

 

[Persuader]

/----/ And as a Southerner, let me say at the end of the day, slavery is a sin against God and man and had to be stopped.
The South was slow to adopt new technology, build railroads, and break away from the traditions that held them back.
The South could have opened new ports not controlled by the North. They had one continuous coastline from Virginia to Texas, and don't forget the Mississippi River.

Slavery has been misrepresented...at least the form it took down South.

Also....the War Between the States was not about Slavery.

Not to forget........Slavery allowed Africans to become more or less civilized.......when they got off the boats after being sold into slavery by their own Chiefs they were little more than jungle critters...they learned skills and many became educated and developed a spirituality that unfortunately for the most part they have lost.

 

[Invisibleflash]

Black farmer looks to rethink stigma of picking cotton

Old images of African Americans picking cotton remind many of the oppression suffered by generations of Black slaves before the Emancipation Proclamation. For Black Americans in particular, their history with this famous crop, that helps clothe the world, is complicated. Now Julius Tillery, a...

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liberals writing anything to keep the racism going. Never mind that most farmers are white. Never mind they also come generations farming and cotton picking too. liberals starting up the racism again.

Blacks picking cotton? Whites picked cotton too.

I have a dream...

 

[sparky]

thread tune!


~S~

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

thread tune!


~S~

CCR did so many southern songs that I used to think that they were a southern band, but they are a San Fransico band.

 

[JohnDB]

/----/ And as a Southerner, let me say at the end of the day, slavery is a sin against God and man and had to be stopped.
The South was slow to adopt new technology, build railroads, and break away from the traditions that held them back.
The South could have opened new ports not controlled by the North. They had one continuous coastline from Virginia to Texas, and don't forget the Mississippi River.

Of course slavery is not right...
But when people become oppressed they often resort to immorality.

It's not that the South was slow about adopting technology...they literally couldn't afford it. And subsidies were given only to Northern states by the Federal Government so they could industrialized. Meaning all railroads built were up north...all ports were seized and all shipbuilding was bankrupted until solely held by industrialists in Northern States. It was to the tune of 4 billion dollars essentially stolen out of Georgia alone. (75% of their entire economy and assets)

There was no means for any product to be sold to Europe for market prices. However...Northern armies were not shy about conscripting young Southern men to fight in Texas. And the Federal Government was not shy about placing extra taxes on agricultural products from the South.

The Federal Government had been guilty of negligence of the South and Favoritism of the North. Meanwhile saying Southerners were all just poor heathen sinners and didn't deserve anything anyway.

When the South did ceceed and seized their own ports and ships they began to flourish. Goods flowed into Europe and the South began to recover...even though they were purchasing a lot of munitions.

Enter Sherman's March....which killed everyone and burned everything along the way. Even a regiment from Alabama flanked Sherman on his tour of tyranny. (That's how divisive the subject of slavery was)

The North caused the Southern Poverty, provided the slaves as a means to ease the economic burden and then took away the slaves.

 

[Persuader]

I am loath to comment on slavery or anything regarding that era because most resources that were once available have been shut down....political corretness rules and thus there is really nothing to talk about because the facts are no longer available....tyranny has taken control and it will get much worse as our freedoms are quickly vanishing .....the power of the Federal Government and their version of the truth is now forced on all and there is no way to fight it as they control all the hitorical information.

Irregardless I was able to come up with this.........
slavery had existed throughout history and was the natural state of mankind. The Greeks had slaves, the Romans had slaves, and the English had slavery
Defenders of slavery noted that in the Bible, Abraham had slaves. They point to the Ten Commandments, noting that "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, ... nor his manservant, nor his maidservant." In the New Testament, Paul returned a runaway slave, Philemon, to his master, and, although slavery was widespread throughout the Roman world, Jesus never spoke out against it.
Defenders of slavery turned to the courts, who had ruled, with the Dred Scott Decision, that all blacks — not just slaves — had no legal standing as persons in our courts — they were property, and the Constitution protected slave-holders' rights to their property.
Defenders of slavery argued that the institution was divine, and that it brought Christianity to the heathen from across the ocean. Slavery was, according to this argument, a good thing for the enslaved. John C. Calhoun said, "Never before has the black race of Central Africa, from the dawn of history to the present day, attained a condition so civilized and so improved, not only physically, but morally and intellectually."
Defenders of slavery argued that by comparison with the poor of Europe and the workers in the Northern states, that slaves were better cared for. They said that their owners would protect and assist them when they were sick and aged, unlike those who, once fired from their work, were left to fend helplessly for themselves.
JAMES THORNWELL, a minister, wrote in 1860, "The parties in this conflict are not merely Abolitionists and slaveholders, they are Atheists, Socialists, Communists, Red Republicans, Jacobins on the one side and the friends of order and regulated freedom on the other."

The violence of Nat Turner's 1831 slave revolt frightened many southern slaveholders. Such unrest was used by many as a reason to continue slavery.
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A History of the Defense of Slavery in America
A book review of Larry Tise's Proslavery: A History of The Defense of Slavery In America.Though this review is rather short, it does present some of the reasoning used to justify slavery, including the perceived approbation of slavery found in the Bible.
George Fitzhugh, 1806-81
George Fitzhugh's two books advocating slavery helped polarize Northerners and Southerners on the issue of slavery. Fitzhugh maintained that all labor is essentially slavery and that the "slavery" of free workers is more cruel than the complete slavery of blacks. There are links to electronic versions of his books.
Report broken link
Justification of Slavery
The American Memory program at the Library of Congress ensures that we don't forget our nations past — the good and the bad. This list of linked articles, pamphlets, and books leads to an extensive variety of justifications for slavery. Read the words of contemporary Southern slaveholders to see why they thought slavery was right.
Contemporary White Opinions of Slavery
How did a Southerner feel about daily life with slaves? How did would one feel about a violent revolt? You can find out in their own words. South Carolina's Information Highway has provided a list of links from folks down in Dixie before the Civil War. Find out first-hand what they thought of slavery here.
Report broken link
The right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example. — R. Furman, D.D., Baptist, of South Carolina (19th-Century Reverend)

I personally do not advocate slavery but the fact remains it arose when needed and is still around in Africa and China particuarly...and many claim a new form of slavery is rising aka technological slavery.

The bottom line it is a complex story and a honest discussion of the Slavery that existed in the South is no longer possible because as pointed out the facts and truth are now censored and it will only get worse.

 

[horselightning]

He says he was forced to pick cotton. He said “us”. He must be at least 180 years old by now.

yeah right

 

[horselightning]

I am loath to comment on slavery or anything regarding that era because most resources that were once available have been shut down....political corretness rules and thus there is really nothing to talk about because the facts are no longer available....tyranny has taken control and it will get much worse as our freedoms are quickly vanishing .....the power of the Federal Government and their version of the truth is now forced on all and there is no way to fight it as they control all the hitorical information.

Irregardless I was able to come up with this.........
slavery had existed throughout history and was the natural state of mankind. The Greeks had slaves, the Romans had slaves, and the English had slavery
Defenders of slavery noted that in the Bible, Abraham had slaves. They point to the Ten Commandments, noting that "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, ... nor his manservant, nor his maidservant." In the New Testament, Paul returned a runaway slave, Philemon, to his master, and, although slavery was widespread throughout the Roman world, Jesus never spoke out against it.
Defenders of slavery turned to the courts, who had ruled, with the Dred Scott Decision, that all blacks — not just slaves — had no legal standing as persons in our courts — they were property, and the Constitution protected slave-holders' rights to their property.
Defenders of slavery argued that the institution was divine, and that it brought Christianity to the heathen from across the ocean. Slavery was, according to this argument, a good thing for the enslaved. John C. Calhoun said, "Never before has the black race of Central Africa, from the dawn of history to the present day, attained a condition so civilized and so improved, not only physically, but morally and intellectually."
Defenders of slavery argued that by comparison with the poor of Europe and the workers in the Northern states, that slaves were better cared for. They said that their owners would protect and assist them when they were sick and aged, unlike those who, once fired from their work, were left to fend helplessly for themselves.
JAMES THORNWELL, a minister, wrote in 1860, "The parties in this conflict are not merely Abolitionists and slaveholders, they are Atheists, Socialists, Communists, Red Republicans, Jacobins on the one side and the friends of order and regulated freedom on the other."

The violence of Nat Turner's 1831 slave revolt frightened many southern slaveholders. Such unrest was used by many as a reason to continue slavery.
.
A History of the Defense of Slavery in America
A book review of Larry Tise's Proslavery: A History of The Defense of Slavery In America.Though this review is rather short, it does present some of the reasoning used to justify slavery, including the perceived approbation of slavery found in the Bible.
George Fitzhugh, 1806-81
George Fitzhugh's two books advocating slavery helped polarize Northerners and Southerners on the issue of slavery. Fitzhugh maintained that all labor is essentially slavery and that the "slavery" of free workers is more cruel than the complete slavery of blacks. There are links to electronic versions of his books.
Report broken link
Justification of Slavery
The American Memory program at the Library of Congress ensures that we don't forget our nations past — the good and the bad. This list of linked articles, pamphlets, and books leads to an extensive variety of justifications for slavery. Read the words of contemporary Southern slaveholders to see why they thought slavery was right.
Contemporary White Opinions of Slavery
How did a Southerner feel about daily life with slaves? How did would one feel about a violent revolt? You can find out in their own words. South Carolina's Information Highway has provided a list of links from folks down in Dixie before the Civil War. Find out first-hand what they thought of slavery here.
Report broken link
The right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example. — R. Furman, D.D., Baptist, of South Carolina (19th-Century Reverend)

I personally do not advocate slavery but the fact remains it arose when needed and is still around in Africa and China particuarly...and many claim a new form of slavery is rising aka technological slavery.

The bottom line it is a complex story and a honest discussion of the Slavery that existed in the South is no longer possible because as pointed out the facts and truth are now censored and it will only get worse.

only 16 percent of caucasions had slaves and 11 percent of blacks had them. and more blacks would have had them had slavery went on. all true.

 

[horselightning]

/----/ And as a Southerner, let me say at the end of the day, slavery is a sin against God and man and had to be stopped.
The South was slow to adopt new technology, build railroads, and break away from the traditions that held them back.
The South could have opened new ports not controlled by the North. They had one continuous coastline from Virginia to Texas, and don't forget the Mississippi River.

blacks never stopped slavery in africa.