Big D might be right

[OCA]

Originally posted by DKSuddeth
everyone already knows what happened to my stepson a while ago, but heres another one right in our neighborhood. A lady down the street had her lawn mower out in the driveway while she was doing yard work. Went inside her house to grab a bottle of water and as she came out 3 young black men were putting her lawn mower in the trunk of their car. She yelled, they scattered, with her lawn mower in their trunk.

So what are you saying DK? You're opinion of Blacks is more in line with D now?

 

[Big D]

Originally posted by OCA
So what are you saying DK? You're opinion of Blacks is more in line with D now?

One problem white folks have are people like OCA, NewGuy, and Flasher, they get so emotional with fear and alot of times act like women. They are spinless jellyfish who choose the path of least resistance no matter how right or wrong.


Other races don't have such weak emotionaly men as white folks do.

 

[dilloduck]

UH oh-----gender wars---duck D.

 

[Big D]

Originally posted by dilloduck
UH oh-----gender wars---duck D.

Your right, and I am wrong.

These guys act way worse then women.

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by OCA
So what are you saying DK? You're opinion of Blacks is more in line with D now?

overall? couldn't tell you, however, thats two crimes in two months that are close to me that have involved blacks. they aren't doing themselves any favors by not changing their peoples ways.

 

[fuzzykitten99]

I have never had a racist bone in my body...but the way things are going, my opinion of minorities is changing because of the crap i see everyday on the way to work. I work in Minneapolis, and live in Coon Rapids. Coon Rapids is appx 22 miles North of Minneapolis. On my daily drive, I go from clean, manicured neighborhoods, great schools, basically the all-American suburb. There are few minorities in the area that I live in, but the ones that are there are upstanding citizens and pose no threat. There is no graffiti, bars on windows, or worries about school shootings.

Drive 22 miles to Minneapolis and it is totally opposite. The local McD's serves you your food through a box where they are behind bulletproof glass. The biggest white population in the area is only populated for 12-14 hours a day: the building where I work.

The area where I work used to be really run down, and if it helps the perspective, the first five floors of the building (which is an old Honeywell building) have bullet-proof glass in the windows.The company I work for has bought up several residential properties around the area and fixed them up and sold them to the city. They then turned around and sold them to families really cheap. It is turning out to be a nice neighborhood. But if you go anywhere past 5 blocks, you get a different picture. This weekend, there were 4 fatal shootings in Mpls, all within 24 hours. I will give you a guess as to which minority was involved.

I am in the process of changing jobs because of the distance from home, but really, I will be happy that I don't have to hide my purse in my trunk and lock my doors to drive to work.

 

[OCA]

Originally posted by Big D
One problem white folks have are people like OCA, NewGuy, and Flasher, they get so emotional with fear and alot of times act like women. They are spinless jellyfish who choose the path of least resistance no matter how right or wrong.


Other races don't have such weak emotionaly men as white folks do.

Big D couldn't even carry my jockstrap. The weakminded way is to give into your base fears and hate based upon color of skin only which is PLAINLY apparent in Big D's case.

 

[Big D]

Originally posted by OCA
Big D couldn't even carry my jockstrap. The weakminded way is to give into your base fears and hate based upon color of skin only which is PLAINLY apparent in Big D's case.

The only hate around here is your hate for the truth.

 

[NewGuy]

Might I remind everyone that history makes a bias with an individual?

Blacks have an ugly past of being slaves and brought over here to serve.

As such, America has done much to disable many of their capacities: Alcohol and tobacco specifically target the ghettos which were the original first places where Blacks could start to get back on to their feet.

They had to fight the economics of getting away from slavery, the image they had, the already solid dicrimination, the ghetto marketing campaign, and then socialism claiming them victims and handing them every social program under the sun.

Throw in drugs, and what percentage of these guys will think like us cool white folk which have never been in that situation.

Drugs, alcohol, tobacco? We grow up looking at that stuff from the OUTSIDE. -Unless we start out a minority in a ghetto or are surrounded by crime and subjected to it directly daily.

Again.....you have to take the whole picture into focus.

A black kid being born today looks at his own race and asks...."Where did WE come from?".....Do you think he will be jaded by what he learns?

Would he be more likely to be angry or happy?

Would he like to own a business? -Or would he be more likely to say "Screw the system....they hate me anyway!".

You have to use reality here, not let Big D and his racism penetrate your head and brainwash you for the sake of justifying his inferiority issues.

He makes me CONSISTENTLY GNASH MY TEETH.

 

[fuzzykitten99]

Originally posted by NewGuy
Might I remind everyone that history makes a bias with an individual?

Blacks have an ugly past of being slaves and brought over here to serve.

As such, America has done much to disable many of their capacities: Alcohol and tobacco specifically target the ghettos which were the original first places where Blacks could start to get back on to their feet.

They had to fight the economics of getting away from slavery, the image they had, the already solid dicrimination, the ghetto marketing campaign, and then socialism claiming them victims and handing them every social program under the sun.

Throw in drugs, and what percentage of these guys will think like us cool white folk which have never been in that situation.

Drugs, alcohol, tobacco? We grow up looking at that stuff from the OUTSIDE. -Unless we start out a minority in a ghetto or are surrounded by crime and subjected to it directly daily.

Again.....you have to take the whole picture into focus.

A black kid being born today looks at his own race and asks...."Where did WE come from?".....Do you think he will be jaded by what he learns?

Would he be more likely to be angry or happy?

Would he like to own a business? -Or would he be more likely to say "Screw the system....they hate me anyway!".

You have to use reality here, not let Big D and his racism penetrate your head and brainwash you for the sake of justifying his inferiority issues.

He makes me CONSISTENTLY GNASH MY TEETH.

This sounds like you are making excuses for the behavior of minorities based on their history. Not all minorities that act in the way they do, have horrible backgrounds. Even so, using that as an excuse is just plain lazy and ignorant. My background wasn't full of wine and roses. I have posted before that I was born into poverty. My mother was 16 and my father was 18. He worked 2 jobs so my mom could stay home with me during the day. during my school years, I had out of style clothes and I was often picked on and made fun of because of my hand me downs. Yet I never turned to crime, drugs, or other such things. I had a low self esteem most of my life until I started making things better for myself. I started working at 14, and by 18, I moved out on my own, and by 19, I had my first new car, signed and paid for by myself. My cars that I had previous had been ones I bought (note I myself, not parents or relatives) had been older, unreliable ones.

This country was founded on the principle that no matter what your background, you can be what you want to be. If you don't have aspirations of being something other than a criminal, then that;s your choice, but YOU pay the consequences because you CHOSE, no one forced you.

If background has precedence on what you become in the future, then Abraham Lincoln should never have been President.

ALL minorities have the same options and opportunities that the rest of society has. To use the "I'm a victim of a horrible childhood" line is copping out and refusing to take responsibility for your own future. Life is hard. It is very hard and sucks sometimes. Get over it. I don't care where you come from, you can still be as successful as you want to be, but you WILL have to work for it. That's reality.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by fuzzykitten99
This sounds like you are making excuses for the behavior of minorities based on their history. Not all minorities that act in the way they do, have horrible backgrounds. Even so, using that as an excuse is just plain lazy and ignorant. My background wasn't full of wine and roses. I have posted before that I was born into poverty. My mother was 16 and my father was 18. He worked 2 jobs so my mom could stay home with me during the day. during my school years, I had out of style clothes and I was often picked on and made fun of because of my hand me downs. Yet I never turned to crime, drugs, or other such things. I had a low self esteem most of my life until I started making things better for myself. I started working at 14, and by 18, I moved out on my own, and by 19, I had my first new car, signed and paid for by myself. My cars that I had previous had been ones I bought (note I myself, not parents or relatives) had been older, unreliable ones.

This country was founded on the principle that no matter what your background, you can be what you want to be. If you don't have aspirations of being something other than a criminal, then that;s your choice, but YOU pay the consequences because you CHOSE, no one forced you.

If background has precedence on what you become in the future, then Abraham Lincoln should never have been President.

ALL minorities have the same options and opportunities that the rest of society has. To use the "I'm a victim of a horrible childhood" line is copping out and refusing to take responsibility for your own future. Life is hard. It is very hard and sucks sometimes. Get over it. I don't care where you come from, you can still be as successful as you want to be, but you WILL have to work for it. That's reality.

Being a person who had to pull myself up and become successful in much the same way, I agree.

I make no excuses, but show context for the situation.

It does not justify behavior, but shows why it exists.

As I said.....NOTHING justifies lack of responsibility.

You must know the details in order to understand, though. Once you do, the blind hate for PEOPLE is removed and replaced by blind hate for the CIRCUMSTANCES.

Big difference.

D hates the people.

I hate the circumstances.

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by NewGuy
Might I remind everyone that history makes a bias with an individual?

Blacks have an ugly past of being slaves and brought over here to serve.

As such, America has done much to disable many of their capacities: Alcohol and tobacco specifically target the ghettos which were the original first places where Blacks could start to get back on to their feet.

They had to fight the economics of getting away from slavery, the image they had, the already solid dicrimination, the ghetto marketing campaign, and then socialism claiming them victims and handing them every social program under the sun.

Throw in drugs, and what percentage of these guys will think like us cool white folk which have never been in that situation.

Drugs, alcohol, tobacco? We grow up looking at that stuff from the OUTSIDE. -Unless we start out a minority in a ghetto or are surrounded by crime and subjected to it directly daily.

Again.....you have to take the whole picture into focus.

A black kid being born today looks at his own race and asks...."Where did WE come from?".....Do you think he will be jaded by what he learns?

Would he be more likely to be angry or happy?

Would he like to own a business? -Or would he be more likely to say "Screw the system....they hate me anyway!".

You have to use reality here, not let Big D and his racism penetrate your head and brainwash you for the sake of justifying his inferiority issues.

He makes me CONSISTENTLY GNASH MY TEETH.

Thanks for the laundry list of excuses. All races have been oppressed, all races have enslaved others. While their history here is blemished, must they never be held accountable for their own lives? Is white america to be bludgeoned with history forever?

This is excuse making newguy, you're above this, I thought.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
Thanks for the laundry list of excuses. All races have been oppressed, all races have enslaved others. While their history here is blemished, must they never be held accountable for their own lives? Is white america to be bludgeoned with history forever?

This is excuse making newguy, you're above this, I thought.

You obviously haven't read all of my posts in this thread.

I thought YOU were above THAT.

:

 

[rtwngAvngr]

Originally posted by NewGuy
You obviously haven't read all of my posts in this thread.

I thought YOU were above THAT.

:

Oh sorry. Still, based on one post I read of yours, it seemed you were still stuck on this "using slavery to justify current problems in the black community" schtick. And I don't accept that. I will never just exonerate anyone from responsibility of their own behavior based on history, because I will never do it for myself. I hold myself accountable; I will hold others accountable.

 

[007]

Originally posted by NewGuy
You must know the details in order to understand, though. Once you do, the blind hate for PEOPLE is removed and replaced by blind hate for the CIRCUMSTANCES.

It's isn't "blind hate" newguy. There's nothing blind about it. There's volumes of stories about the crime, there's instance after instance after instance of personal experiences, and just plain listen to the news. People are slowly starting to get past this stigma as you're suggesting, that "it's all the white mans fault" syndrom. The hell it is. At this point in time in America, whites don't OWE blacks a goddamn thing! And me working my ass off to get where I'm at has got NOTHING AT ALL to do with buckwheat down the road stealing lawn mowers in broad daylight.

Stop making fucking excuses for these people. They need to quite the thievin', drug pushing, raping and killing, and get their ass back in SCHOOL, like everyone else that has bettered themselves.

It appears to me that blacks are always looking for "the easy way out".

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by rtwngAvngr
Oh sorry. Still, based on one post I read of yours, it seemed you were still stuck on this "using slavery to justify current problems in the black community" schtick. And I don't accept that. I will never just exonerate anyone from responsibility of their own behavior based on history, because I will never do it for myself. I hold myself accountable; I will hold others accountable.

Agreed!

-HOWEVER.....if you acted IRRESPONSIBLY and claimed yourself a victim, it might help us to know why and fix the circumstances so we don't create more people like you and fix our condition.

Correct?

That is my whole point.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by Pale Rider
It's isn't "blind hate" newguy. There's volumes of stories about the crime, there's instance after instance of personal experiences, and just plain listen to the news.

Have you ever read any biographies?

How many people do you know who have made it on their own?

How many people do you know in ghettos?

Have you ever lived in one?

You are speaking out of ignorance if you believe the news and ignore reality.

Crime exists for a reason and has dynamics associated. -Hence the origin of the police force and its original structure and philosophies.

People are slowly starting to get past this stigma as you're suggesting, that "it's all the white mans fault" syndrom. The hell it is. At this point it time in America, whites don't OWE blacks a goddamn thing! And me working my ass off to get where I'm at has got NOTHING AT ALL to do with buckwheat down the road stealing lawn mowers in broad daylight.

Poor you.

Start a business and quit crying like a baby because you cant "get hired".

Stop making fucking excuses for these people. They need to quite the thievin', drug pushing, raping and killing, and get their ass back in SCHOOL, like everyone else that has bettered themselves.

YOU went to school.

Fat load of good that did.

It appears to me that blacks are always looking for "the easy way out".

When taught to, yes.

Just like you by the tone of this post.

 

[007]

Originally posted by NewGuy
Agreed!

-HOWEVER.....if you acted IRRESPONSIBLY and claimed yourself a victim, it might help us to know why and fix the circumstances so we don't create more people like you and fix our condition.

Correct?

That is my whole point.

There's the "bleeding heart liberal" approach right there.

 

[NewGuy]

Originally posted by Pale Rider
There's the "bleeding heart liberal" approach right there.

You can SPELL liberal?

I'm impressed.

Too bad you don't know what one is.

 

[007]

Originally posted by NewGuy
Have you ever read any biographies?

How many people do you know who have made it on their own?

How many people do you know in ghettos?

Have you ever lived in one?

You are speaking out of ignorance if you believe the news and ignore reality.

Crime exists for a reason and has dynamics associated. -Hence the origin of the police force and its original structure and philosophies.



Poor you.

Start a business and quit crying like a baby because you cant "get hired".



YOU went to school.

Fat load of good that did.



When taught to, yes.

Just like you by the tone of this post.

You just keep licking black boot and making excuses. You're nothing more than an enabler for them to keep up their unexceptable behavior.

Maybe you should grow a spine.