Biden underwater 37% among independents

ColonelAngus

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The far left and far right are static, the middle decides elections.

Among Indys, Biden has an approval of 29% and disapproval of 66%. That is not good for Biden.


 
The far left and far right are static, the middle decides elections.

Among Indys, Biden has an approval of 29% and disapproval of 66%. That is not good for Biden.




I'm a college educated suburban white woman

The women like me are clearly not very bright. But I knew this, to my shame.
 
Biden sucks, but there's more to these polls than you thinks. Some (Berniebots) disapprove of Biden because he's not liberal enough. Who will Berniebots vote for if it's Biden versus Trump in 2024?
 
Biden sucks, but there's more to these polls than you thinks. Some (Berniebots) disapprove of Biden because he's not liberal enough. Who will Berniebots vote for if it's Biden versus Trump in 2024?
Who is running on the Green and Libertarian ticket?

See that is what happens when you have two unpopular people running for the Oval Office, and if you need a good reference then try 2000 and 2016 and let remember the fact that the Green Party in both years cost the Democratic Party that election…

I know I am supposed to think of Chad and Russia but truthfully it was the Green Party that sunk the Democratic Party those two elections and could do it again in 2024…
 
I'm clearly smarter than you and this really seems to bother you
If it makes you feel any better, IMHO Trump's 1st debate "shit show" cost him the 2020 election.
My wife said "no way I can vote for that AH".

You would think Trump could have been able to "act" more presidential.
 
If it makes you feel any better, IMHO Trump's 1st debate "shit show" cost him the 2020 election.
My wife said "no way I can vote for that AH".

You would think Trump could have been able to "act" more presidential.

Well, so there it is. Now we have a president who STILL doesn't act presidential and also destroys our economy and our foreign policy. Oh, and also our border policy.
 
While both partys try to diminish their importance by referring to Independents as low-interest/info voters it could not be farther from the truth, we are very well informed.

Independents look at the Rs and Ds and consider them both a pox and if they had someplace else to go that was viable and reflected their sensibilities they would.

Thing is when one party (like the dems now) are so totally off the hook and bent on the downfall of the Republic and trying to turn it into some sort of Mobocracy or worse we will hold our collectives noses and vote with the gop.

To be honest I don't see how anyone can look at the R and D "leadership" and be anything but a Independent.

Independents are the real pulse of the country. If you lose them you are fucked.
 
While both partys try to diminish their importance by referring to Independents as low-interest/info voters it could not be farther from the truth, we are very well informed.
Independents look at the Rs and Ds and consider them both a pox and if they had someplace else to go that was viable and reflected their sensibilities they would.
Thing is when one party (like the dems now) are so totally off the hook and bent on the downfall of the Republic and trying to turn it into some sort of Mobocracy or worse we will hold our collectives noses and vote with the gop.
To be honest I don't see how anyone can look at the R and D "leadership" and be anything but a Independent.
Independents are the real pulse of the country. If you lose them you are fucked.
You seem to imply that indys are the only "swing voters". Not true.
No one calls indys low-info voters, you can see how the R & D policies play out without feeling the need to defend your party's actions. (my party right or wrong?!)
As a Republican I'm against the tax cuts w/o spending cuts. There are no "conservatives" anymore.
The dems are a puss case no matter where you look.

Every election is a "lesser of the evils" election, and always has been.
 
I'm a college educated suburban white woman

The women like me are clearly not very bright. But I knew this, to my shame.

WHat I saw from your demo was what I see from your demo all the time.

It's not what you say, it's the tone.

Many white college educated suburban women didn't like Trump's TONE.

They would rather Biden destroy the nation in a doddering old grandpa style than Trump make the economy boom, but be kind of a dick about it.
 
Biden sucks, but there's more to these polls than you thinks. Some (Berniebots) disapprove of Biden because he's not liberal enough. Who will Berniebots vote for if it's Biden versus Trump in 2024?

The LP candidate, hopefully. That way their vote is pissed away.
 
The far left and far right are static, the middle decides elections.

Among Indys, Biden has an approval of 29% and disapproval of 66%. That is not good for Biden.



The dems are going to get really dangerous in the next few months as they lash out
 
You seem to imply that indys are the only "swing voters". Not true.
No one calls indys low-info voters, you can see how the R & D policies play out without feeling the need to defend your party's actions. (my party right or wrong?!)
As a Republican I'm against the tax cuts w/o spending cuts. There are no "conservatives" anymore.
The dems are a puss case no matter where you look.

Every election is a "lesser of the evils" election, and always has been.
The subject was the Independent voter, not the swing voter.

If you set the cheating narratives off to the side a very good case can be made that Trump lost the "swing-vote" which usually consists of vapid suburban housefraus that did not vote for Trump because he is a insufferable asshole.

Contrast that to a Independent that thinks, "yeah trump is a insufferable asshole but I like his policies". The feels-based "swing-vote" is what did Trump in.
 
The dems are going to get really dangerous in the next few months as they lash out
Yes.

Look at what they are doing to Manchin for actually representing his constituents.

Dems are in it for money and power and fleecing the taxpayers.
 
You idiot leftists do not understand that Manchin will be voted out and replaced by a R if he voted for this bill that will destroy America.
 
They need to pull their head out of their ass. Dems behavior was 5x worse so why the goddamn double standard? Second off camera these Dems are no different than Trump, at least he was open and honest about it.

Many women are emotional. That should not be ignored by Pubs and it is CERTAINLY exploited by DEMS.
 
Who is running on the Green and Libertarian ticket?

See that is what happens when you have two unpopular people running for the Oval Office, and if you need a good reference then try 2000 and 2016 and let remember the fact that the Green Party in both years cost the Democratic Party that election…

I know I am supposed to think of Chad and Russia but truthfully it was the Green Party that sunk the Democratic Party those two elections and could do it again in 2024…
That's why the Democrats neutralized the socialist vote in 2020.

That's the REAL reason Rapin' Joe won.

They'll work even harder to destroy socialist parties/voters in 2024.
 

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