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Biden calls for war crimes trial after Bucha images surface

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Because they will blame Putin for their loss, no matter what he claims.

When the $$$ laundering machine has stopped, someone is to blame and Putin stopped the machine.

Wait until governments start liquidating their assets, that's when it will happen.
That doesn't make sense. The West targeted private individuals in an extra-judicial manner. That isn't on Putin. If anything Putin will let them loot Ukraine before he leaves.
 

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That doesn't make sense. The West targeted private individuals in an extra-judicial manner.
Yes, it does make sense, governments do it all the time, seize the assets of regimes, when they go rogue.

In September 2011, the UN told the United States to proceed with releasing $1.5 billion of assets that had been stashed in the country by former Libyan strongman Muammar Qaddafi. The money was to be sent to the country's recently recognized Transitional National Council for humanitarian aid.

May 13 2013
"The Economist" highlighted the case of former Ukrainian Prime Minister Pavlo Lazarenko, noting, "Legal action over the $200 million that the UN estimates Lazarenko pinched from Ukraine in the 1990s still rumbles on, with a dozen parties chasing assets in Eastern Europe, America, and Antigua."

September 18 2013
Russian businessman Denis Katsyv is in for a fight. That is, if he intends to convince a U.S. judge why his $23 million in fancy Manhattan real estate should not be seized.

A complaint filed last week by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Manhattan alleges that Katsyv's Cyprus-based real estate company and its U.S. subsidiaries purchased luxury apartments and commercial space using dirty money -- part of the proceeds of a massive fraud scheme against the Russian state uncovered by the deceased lawyer Sergei Magnitsky.
That isn't on Putin. If anything Putin will let them loot Ukraine before he leaves.

I would guess Putin will do that if/when he can, long before they get their chance.
 

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Yes, it does make sense, governments do it all the time, seize the assets of regimes, when they go rogue.

In September 2011, the UN told the United States to proceed with releasing $1.5 billion of assets that had been stashed in the country by former Libyan strongman Muammar Qaddafi. The money was to be sent to the country's recently recognized Transitional National Council for humanitarian aid.

May 13 2013
"The Economist" highlighted the case of former Ukrainian Prime Minister Pavlo Lazarenko, noting, "Legal action over the $200 million that the UN estimates Lazarenko pinched from Ukraine in the 1990s still rumbles on, with a dozen parties chasing assets in Eastern Europe, America, and Antigua."

September 18 2013
Russian businessman Denis Katsyv is in for a fight. That is, if he intends to convince a U.S. judge why his $23 million in fancy Manhattan real estate should not be seized.

A complaint filed last week by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Manhattan alleges that Katsyv's Cyprus-based real estate company and its U.S. subsidiaries purchased luxury apartments and commercial space using dirty money -- part of the proceeds of a massive fraud scheme against the Russian state uncovered by the deceased lawyer Sergei Magnitsky.


I would guess Putin will do that if/when he can, long before they get their chance.
Those examples were premised on criminal acts by individuals. The only crime these oligarchs committed was being born Russian. Big difference.
 

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Those examples were premised on criminal acts by individuals. The only crime these oligarchs committed was being born Russian. Big difference.
Governments disagree.

March 3 2022
For years, Londoners have largely ignored the wealthy Russian oligarchs living among them.

So, too, were they aware a couple of miles away in Belgravia, where Londoners have renamed Eaton Square “Red Square,” due to its high concentration of Russian tycoon homeowners – among them Roman Abramovich and Oleg Deripaska, two billionaires closely allied with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

In three decades, London has established itself as the global hub of choice for Russian “dirty” money. Russian oligarchs are believed to have siphoned money from Russian state assets, often with Mr. Putin’s assistance or approval. They eventually transferred that wealth to the U.K. for safekeeping and investment – which the country welcomed with few questions, according to a 2020 intelligence and security parliamentary committee report.

The mood in Britain began to turn against Russian oligarchs even before the invasion. On Feb. 17, the government axed the so-called “golden visa” program introduced in 2000, which granted residency to wealthy foreigners in exchange for large-scale investments – the larger, the more quickly the visa would be granted. Many Russian millionaires were among the recipients.

April 4 2022
US authorities accused Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg of conspiring to commit bank fraud and money laundering as his mega yacht was seized in Spain on Monday.

Vekselberg, who was born in Ukraine but founded Russia-based conglomerate Renova Group, saw his yacht named Tango seized by Spanish investigators after the US and Western allies hit him with sanctions.

The warrant alleged that “Vekselberg caused payments for the TANGO to be run through various shell companies in order to prevent US financial institutions from accurately executing their KYC [Know Your Customer] controls and in order to avoid the filing of SARs [Suspicious Activity Reports] related to his financial transactions.”

The FBI warrant said the alleged scheme is tied to web of little known companies that have financial interest in Vekselberg’s yacht. Many of these small corporations link back to the Russian billionaire, the bureau said.

The FBI added that the alleged scheme has been ongoing since 2011.
 

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Governments disagree.

March 3 2022
For years, Londoners have largely ignored the wealthy Russian oligarchs living among them.

So, too, were they aware a couple of miles away in Belgravia, where Londoners have renamed Eaton Square “Red Square,” due to its high concentration of Russian tycoon homeowners – among them Roman Abramovich and Oleg Deripaska, two billionaires closely allied with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

In three decades, London has established itself as the global hub of choice for Russian “dirty” money. Russian oligarchs are believed to have siphoned money from Russian state assets, often with Mr. Putin’s assistance or approval. They eventually transferred that wealth to the U.K. for safekeeping and investment – which the country welcomed with few questions, according to a 2020 intelligence and security parliamentary committee report.

The mood in Britain began to turn against Russian oligarchs even before the invasion. On Feb. 17, the government axed the so-called “golden visa” program introduced in 2000, which granted residency to wealthy foreigners in exchange for large-scale investments – the larger, the more quickly the visa would be granted. Many Russian millionaires were among the recipients.

April 4 2022
US authorities accused Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg of conspiring to commit bank fraud and money laundering as his mega yacht was seized in Spain on Monday.

Vekselberg, who was born in Ukraine but founded Russia-based conglomerate Renova Group, saw his yacht named Tango seized by Spanish investigators after the US and Western allies hit him with sanctions.

The warrant alleged that “Vekselberg caused payments for the TANGO to be run through various shell companies in order to prevent US financial institutions from accurately executing their KYC [Know Your Customer] controls and in order to avoid the filing of SARs [Suspicious Activity Reports] related to his financial transactions.”

The FBI warrant said the alleged scheme is tied to web of little known companies that have financial interest in Vekselberg’s yacht. Many of these small corporations link back to the Russian billionaire, the bureau said.

The FBI added that the alleged scheme has been ongoing since 2011.
How does the US have jurisdiction in Spain? Biden's criminal administration is an abomination and disgrace to our country.
 

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Maybe Biden should have help stop the war from happening in the first place.

Fucking racist retard is who we have as a President.

He is white, he can never say the nword for any reason ever…isnt that what the cult says?

 

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How does the US have jurisdiction in Spain? Biden's criminal administration is an abomination and disgrace to our country.
They don't.

"Tango seized by Spanish investigators".

"Biden's criminal administration.........................?

After the corrupt Trump regime, Biden is a boy scout.
 

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Maybe Biden should have help stop the war from happening in the first place.

Fucking racist retard is who we have as a President.

He is white, he can never say the nword for any reason ever…isnt that what the cult says?

Biden was QUOTING someone else, you moron.
 

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They don't.

"Tango seized by Spanish investigators".

"Biden's criminal administration.........................?

After the corrupt Trump regime, Biden is a boy scout.
You were doing so well, then the TDS struck.
 

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Your Biden brain disorder kicked in, but you were off the rails before then, defending Russians.
In this case it's Russians but sanctions against private individuals is extra-judicial, which works against American values. Such values as being innocent until proven guilty, requirements of probable cause, and illegal search and seizure. It's a stupid door to open without even a thought to long term consequences. Typical of liberal lunacy based on emotion rather than common sense and logic.
 

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In this case it's Russians but sanctions against private individuals is extra-judicial, which works against American values.
No, it isn't.
The Russians that were sanctioned have been targeted for a reason.
Such values as being innocent until proven guilty,
"Innocent until proven guilty" is such a farce, it looks good on a bumper sticker.
Accountants can't find $100,000 in an audit, the company bookkeeper is accused of embezzlement, where does she end up waiting to prove her innocence?

Jail, if she is poor.
At home, if she is rich.

requirements of probable cause, and illegal search and seizure.
Like I stated earlier they have all that, why do you think they were targeted?
Not all rich Russians are subjected to sanctions and seizures, just the ones that have questionable finances.
It's a stupid door to open without even a thought to long term consequences.
Like what?
Either they can prove where their $$$ came from to buy their shit or they can't.
Typical of liberal lunacy based on emotion rather than common sense and logic.
Typical of RWNJ's supporting corruption, it's been no big deal for them since Nixon.
 

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The Russians pulled out four days before any pictures showed up (March 30th). Weird how they have electricity and internet, yet not one phone captured any of these atrocities from happening. It wasn’t until Azov Nazi Brigade rolled in did these images show up. All Ukraine has is propaganda.

It’s all to pull us into a war. Now the left and globalist pigs are screaming for the US and NATO to go to war with Russia.
Azov whacked their enemies and tried to blame it on Putin.

Our demented President is trying to start WWIII before he's carted off to the loony bin
 

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Nothing against Ukraine but what does this have to do with me paying $4.50 a gallon gas. 20 people were probably shot this weekend in Chicago I dont give a fuck about shit oversees

War needs gas (oil). The same time the western world buys day by day less oil from Russia. And the so called "multi national oil concerns" make also more money. And here in Germany also taxes are a very important factor. Let me calculate. One US.liq.gal. is 3,785411784 liter. So a gallon costs here in Germany in the moment about $8. A short time ago the price had been higher here: ~$9.90 per gallon.
 
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... Our demented President is trying to start WWIII before he's carted off to the loony bin

Your president - and together with him the whole western world - tries to help the Ukraine - while we try the same time to avoid a nuclear third world war. Pray for us all!


Salve, Regina, mater misericordiae,
vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra, salve.
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Evae.
Ad te suspiramus,
gementes et flentes in hac lacrimarum valle.
Eia, ergo, advocata nostra,
illos tuos misericordes oculos ad nos converte.
Et Jesum, benedictum fructum ventris tui,
nobis post hoc exsilium ostende.
O clemens, O pia, O dulcis Virgo Maria.
 
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... criminal acts by individuals ...

Yes and no. The crimes seem to be systemic. This could mean there is an organized criminal structure (including hierarchy of persons) behind this crimes. Most people think the highest Borg Queen behind this war crimes could be a man with the name Vladimir Putin.
 

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Your president - and together with him the whole western world - tries to help the Ukraine - while we try the same time to avoid a nuclear third world war. Pray for us all!


Salve, Regina, mater misericordiae,
vita, dulcedo, et spes nostra, salve.
Ad te clamamus exsules filii Evae.
Ad te suspiramus,
gementes et flentes in hac lacrimarum valle.
Eia, ergo, advocata nostra,
illos tuos misericordes oculos ad nos converte.
Et Jesum, benedictum fructum ventris tui,
nobis post hoc exsilium ostende.
O clemens, O pia, O dulcis Virgo Maria.
Imagine if you will, a nation where its rulers want to eradicate 1/3 of the human race and enslave the survivors.

That's who runs Ukraine
 

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`Which extremist bullshit will come now?

if you will, a nation where its rulers want to eradicate 1/3 of the human race and enslave the survivors.

That's who runs Ukraine

Putin made totally clear that this what he calls "denazification of the Ukraine" means that he will kill in a worst case scenario all Ukrainians in a gigantic genocide. So why to you support this insane criminal any longer, Trumpican?
 
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`Which extremist bullshit will come now?



Putin made totally clear that this what he calls "denazification of the Ukraine" means that he will kill in a worst case scenario all Ukrainians in a gigantic genocide. So why to you support this insane criminal any longer, Trumpican?

Same way we killed every Nazi after WWII, right?
 

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Same way we killed every Nazi after WWII, right?

Stalin murdered millions of Russians! And Russians murdered them. Your decision which Russian you are, slave of Putin.

 

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