Originally posted by William Joyce
You've framed it pretty broadly --- first, I'd ask, why should we support anyone, ever? We don't really "support" the liberal, free-market governments of Europe (Germany, Francy, U.K., etc.) because they don't need it. We support them militarily, but that is mutual, part of NATO --- they pledge support to us, as well. That's a natural arrangment because they're mostly white, as are we.
But the exception to this is what you should be aware ofÂ…we support Japan and South Korea and Taiwan, with considerable military effort, not because they are
white but because they are liberal democracies. I know personally how the people therein live and work, as I’ve been to all three countries. Racial characteristics and cultural “non-whiteness” pale in comparison to the civilizing operations of these three precious capitalistic democratic nations. In each, a Euro-Caucasian such as myself, felt perfectly at ease and comfortable living in, very similar to my own home of Seattle, WA.
In no case has the overriding safety of Western Liberalism (incl. My life in Hong Kong 15 months) among these three non-White dominant cultures given me the same sense of revulsion and fear as my own experience in living in a state under communism nor tyrannical tendencies.
But Israel isn't self-supporting at all. They get billions in aid from us, military aid, too. I wouldn't call it "liberal," really, given their treatment of Palestinians. If we're going to support them, what do we get in return? It's not like we need them for oil --- we've had deals worked out with the sheikhs for years.
Why do you continue to ignore the rationale of such aid? I mentioned very clearly the billions given to both Egypt and Israel, promised in return for the stability of the Middle East. This was a design conceived by Carter under Camp David. Now you for one would readily admit our vulnerability to the Middle East oil cartel, and such a successful peace policy, costing billions, has paid dividends far less costly than these annual outlays to both of the most powerful nations to maintain the peace among each other.
My objection to supporting Israel is that it's got no justification for us. We do it because Jews are powerful and influential in the U.S. That's wrong, wrong, wrong.
Again I point out our consistent policy of International support for Liberal Democracy. Whether or not in your eyes, such support is “cost-effective”, you cannot challenge the moral basis for such action.
Factually demonstrate the government of Israel has proven to be domestically more tyrannical than any other Middle East government based on Islamic totalitarianism. America’s interest should NEVER be based upon the sacrifice of a Liberal state to appease a cartel of “Kingdoms” which rule the majority of the Middle East. Each would F*CK America for all it’s worth by conquering oil production and holding us hostage once our national will proved too weak to defeat a military monopoly (brought under a single caliphate) in control of the wells supplying half of the worlds oil production. Instead, our support of Iraq as a potential democracy, and by proxy the longevity of Israel as a similar government based on Liberal practice, represents our own desire for national sovereignty in a way you should recognize. You are too intelligent to be racially biased in foreign policy, I believe, William.
