Zone1 Atheist near death experiencer explains "hell?"

[DennisPTate]

It seems to me that our Creator can get ideas across to Atheists who have a near death experience that the deeply religious may not be ready to handle yet.

Former Atheist and near death experiencer Mellen Benedict gave an astonishingly insightful explanation for "hell."

He also was shown that soon scientists would come to understand the invisible dimensions of space and time.

9. The Lessons He Learned​

The mystery of life has very little to do with intelligence. The universe is not an intellectual process at all. The intellect is helpful; it is brilliant, but right now that is all we process with, instead of our hearts and the wiser part of ourselves.

The center of the Earth is this great transmuter of energy, just as you see in pictures of our Earth’s magnetic field. That’s our cycle, pulling reincarnated souls back in and through it again. A sign that you are reaching human level is that you are beginning to evolve an individual consciousness. The animals have a group soul, and they reincarnate in group souls. A deer is pretty much going to be a deer forever. But just being born a human, whether deformed or genius, shows that you are on the path to developing an individual consciousness. That is in itself part of the group consciousness called humanity.
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I had a descent into what you might call hell, and it was very surprising. I did not see Satan or evil. My descent into hell was a descent into each person’s customized human misery, ignorance, and darkness of not-knowing. It seemed like a miserable eternity. But each of the millions of souls around me had a little star of light always available. But no one seemed to pay attention to it. They were so consumed with their own grief, trauma and misery. But, after what seemed an eternity, I started calling out to that light, like a child calling to a parent for help. Then the light opened up and formed a tunnel that came right to me an insulated me from all that fear and pain. That is what hell really is.

So what we are doing is learning to hold hands, to come together. The doors of hell are open now. We are going to link up, hold hands, and walk out of hell together.

The light came to me and turned into a huge golden angel. I said, “Are you the angel of death?”

It expressed to me that it was my oversoul, my Higher Self matrix, a super-ancient part of ourselves. Then I was taken to the light.

Soon our science will quantify spirit. Isn’t that going to be wonderful? We are coming up with devices now that are sensitive to subtle energy or spirit energy. Physicists use these atomic colliders to smash atoms to see what they are made of. They have got it down to quarks and charm, and all that. Well, one day they are going to come down to the little thing that holds it all together, and they are going to have to call that … God. With atomic colliders they are not only seeing what is in here, but they are creating particles. Thank God most of them are short-lived milliseconds and nanoseconds. We are just beginning to understand that we are creating too, as we go along.

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[theHawk]

Sounds like he’s full of shit.

There is no reincarnation of souls.

People don’t “get out of hell together”.

This is pure heresy, and an attempt to pull people away from Christ.
Especially this bit:

“Remember this and never forget; you save, redeem and heal yourself”.



People who reject God and his laws are always trying to pull others into hell with them. That is what this guy is doing. He is trying to convince people they don’t need redemption from Christ, that they can “do it themselves”. Total bullocks.

 

[DennisPTate]

Sounds like he’s full of shit.

There is no reincarnation of souls.

People don’t “get out of hell together”.

This is pure heresy, and an attempt to pull people away from Christ.
Especially this bit:

“Remember this and never forget; you save, redeem and heal yourself”.



People who reject God and his laws are always trying to pull others into hell with them. That is what this guy is doing. He is trying to convince people they don’t need redemption from Christ, that they can “do it themselves”. Total bullocks.

Thank you for your powerful answer theHawk!

You might rather like this other aspect of what he was shown though?

[Mellen Benedict]

10. What Is the Best Religion?​

I asked God: “What is the best religion on the planet? Which one is right?” And Godhead said, with great love: “I don’t care.” That was incredible grace.

They come and they go, they change. Buddhism has not been here forever, Catholicism has not been here forever, and they are all about to become more enlightened. More light is coming into all systems now. There is going to be a reformation in spirituality that is going to be just as dramatic as the Protestant Reformation. There will be lots of people fighting about it, one religion against the next, believing that only they are right.

Everyone thinks they own God, the religions and philosophies, especially the religions, because they form big organizations around their philosophy. When Godhead said, “I don’t care,” I immediately understood that it is for us to care about. It is important, because we are the caring beings. It matters to us and that is where it is important. What you have is the energy equation in spirituality. Ultimate Godhead does not care if you are Protestant, Buddhist, or whatever. It is all a blooming facet of the whole. I wish that all religions would realize it and let each other be. It is not the end of each religion, but we are talking about the same God. Live and let live. Each has a different view. And it all adds up to the Big Picture; it is all important.

I went over to the other side during my NDE with a lot of fears about toxic waste, nuclear missiles, the population explosion, the rainforest. I came back loving every single problem. I love nuclear waste. I love the mushroom cloud; this is the holiest mandala that we have manifested to date, as an archetype. It, more than any religion or philosophy on earth, brought us together all of a sudden, to a new level of consciousness. Knowing that maybe we can blow up the planet fifty times, or 500 times, we finally realize that maybe we are all here together now. For a period they had to keep setting off more bombs to get it in to us. Then we started saying, “we do not need this any more.” Now we are actally in a safer world than we have ever been in, and it is going to get safer. So I came back from my NDE loving toxic waste, because it brought us together. These things are so big. As Peter Russell might say, these problems are now “soul size.” Do we have soul size answers, YES!

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No.... I am wrong.....

here is a NDE account that you will almost certainly prefer.

“I DIED FOR 44 HOURS & GOD ANSWERED THE MYSTERIES OF LIFE!” on the Randy Kay channel.​

465,420 views Premiered Apr 25, 2025

After dying three times for a total of 44 hours in Heaven, Robert describes Heaven in vivid detail. But what makes this episode like none other is that Robert hears answers from Jesus about some the most mysterious questions of all-time:
1. How old is the earth?
2. What happened to the dinasaurs?
3. What happened to the Garden of Eden?
4. How were different ethnicities formed?
5. Why did Jesus use parables?...and so much more!

 

[theHawk]

Thank you for your powerful answer theHawk!

You might rather like this other aspect of what he was shown though?

More lies, why would I like it?

 

[DennisPTate]

More lies, why would I like it?

When I first began to study these accounts I also wondered exactly who was this Being of Light of near death experience fame.

As I read more and more of them though I became convinced that in the majority of cases it really was Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who was appearing to people, reviewing the lives with them and then sending them back into this world with a mission to accomplish.

The Dr. George Ritchie NDE from 1943 played an important role in convincing me that most of these accounts were real.

6. A Brief Summary of George Ritchie’s NDE​

The following is a brief summary of Dr. George Ritchie’s near-death experience. You can read his entire NDE testimony in his book, Return From Tomorrow.

a. His Out-of-Body Experience and Life Review with Jesus​

The following is the testimony of George Ritchie’s OBE: George Ritchie dies of pneumonia in a Texas Army hospital and leaves his body unaware he is dead. He wanders around the hospital ward and wonders why people cannot see or hear him. Wanting eagerly to travel to Richmond, Virginia, to finish college, the thought instantly sends him flying through the door of the hospital and into the air – traveling thousands of miles toward Richmond. He is bewildered about these sudden supernatural powers of flight and transparency he has attained. He then arrives at a city with a bar and discovers the people there cannot see or hear him either. He also has no solidness there either. He flies back to the Army hospital where he sees his lifeless body in the morgue and realizes he is dead..

Suddenly, a being of tremendous light and love appeared before him. Ritchie realizes this light is like “a million welders’ lamps all blazing at once.” Human eyes would be destroyed in a second if they saw it. The being tells Ritchie to stand up. Ritchie is astonished to learn he is standing before Jesus Christ. More than anything emanating from Jesus was the unbelievable amount of unconditional love shining from him – a love that knew everything about Ritchie and loved him just the same. Simultaneously, as Jesus appeared to him, Ritchie watches his entire life displayed before him. Jesus asks him, “What have you done with your life?” Ritchie tries to come up with several examples but realizes he has fallen short. Ritchie eventually realizes Jesus is not judging him at all; but rather, Ritchie was judging himself. And the question “What have you done with your life?” had more to do with “How much unconditional love have you given others.”

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[Cougarbear]

When I first began to study these accounts I also wondered exactly who was this Being of Light of near death experience fame.

As I read more and more of them though I became convinced that in the majority of cases it really was Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who was appearing to people, reviewing the lives with them and then sending them back into this world with a mission to accomplish.

The Dr. George Ritchie NDE from 1943 played an important role in convincing me that most of these accounts were real.

Why don’t you ask God if those accounts are real? In these the very elect of God will be deceived. Mr. Gullible

 

[DennisPTate]

Why don’t you ask God if those accounts are real? In these the very elect of God will be deceived. Mr. Gullible

Yes, I pray for specific near death experiencers quite often and I do look for inconsistencies. They all seem to be on a sincere mission to let others know about what they learned while they had flatlined.

I cannot rule out the idea of somebody making up a near death experience account to attain fame and attention but I don't get that vibe off the vast majority of them. They often wait a decade or more to be able to speak and write about what they saw.

For example John J. Davis does a huge amount of outreach and never charges a penny for when he visits churches or any group that will listen to him.

www.johnjdavisnde.com/





GOOSEBUMPS! Most Detailed Near-Death Experience EVER Recorded: Tour of Heaven | John J. Davis

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[alang1216]

It seems to me that our Creator can get ideas across to Atheists who have a near death experience that the deeply religious may not be ready to handle yet.

Former Atheist and near death experiencer Mellen Benedict gave an astonishingly insightful explanation for "hell."

He also was shown that soon scientists would come to understand the invisible dimensions of space and time.

A burning bush would make me a believer. Still waiting...

 

[luiza]

More lies, why would I like it?

As a Sheeple Normie , you most certainly would not like it .
Which is precisely why you remain sound asleep .

With the Eternity argument there must come a point where Consciousness begins to stir .
But that is very difficult to imagine .

Which is one main reason why I favour the Lab Rat Experiments narrative

 

[DennisPTate]

A burning bush would make me a believer. Still waiting...

Allegorically this man has been set on fire by his forty four hours in heaven in 2024.

[Robert Marshall]

"Upon entering the emergency room, the admission staff quickly observed the medical emergency: I was having difficulty breathing. I was immediately escorted to the care area of the ER and met with a member of the medical team who performed the perfunctory vital signs and symptom identification.


The hospital staff responded to my symptoms and ordered a new CT scan and a broader, all- encompassing blood test. The results showed I had “unstable/abnormal vital signs and life-threatening conditions,” as described in my medical record. I was at risk of my airway being blocked by the mass indicated on the CT scan and I needed emergency intubation with ventilator support. They moved me to a surgical suite, inserted the oral intubation tube, and admitted me to the ICU immediately."

Emergency Room Medical Note:

IMPRESSION:

Increased inflammatory change in the deep left neck soft tissues with worsening swelling of the epiglottis and moderate to severe airway narrowing. Additional inflammatory change involving the left submandibular fossa and submandibular gland as well as the left anterior belly of the digastric. Findings suggest worsening infectious pharyngitis/tonsillitis/epiglottitis. No drainable collection.


Left glossotonsillar sulcus fullness persists. Although superimposed infection is likely, evaluation for an underlying malignancy should be pursued. Direct visualization and tissue sampling may be warranted by ENT. Follow-up CT neck with contrast in one to 3 months is recommended to confirm resolution.

No cervical lymphadenopathy by size criteria.

Incidental severe spinal canal narrowing C5-6 due to ossification of the posterior longitudinal ligament.

For the next two days, I rested comfortably, my body fighting the infection with the help of IV antibiotics, and the intubation tube that kept the mass away from my airway.

[Robert and Carol Marshall, Forty Four Hours in Heaven," page 13]

[Robert Marshall]

Question:

What is the book 44 Hours In Heaven About?




This is a true story and testimony from a man named Robert, who died three times on May 19th, 2024. He explains how he died by suffocating, drowning in his blood in his lungs, acute hypoxic respiratory failure, and cardiac arrest. The result was his suffering oxygen deprivation to his brain for a total of approximately 90 minutes and about his visits to Heaven each time he died.


Each time he died, he went to Heaven. The 1st time he went to Heaven was for 15 minutes; the 2nd time was for 17 minutes; and the 3rd time was for 43 hours and 28 minutes. In the book 44 Hours in Heaven, he shares what Heaven is like, the conversations he had with Jesus, and what he learned.



The following excerpt from chapter 10 in the book "44 Hours In Heaven" contains what Jesus commanded Robert to do.


Jesus said, "You will worship Me in truth and spirit, and you will do as I command you."


Jesus then told him what He would require him to do, “You will worship Me in Truth and Spirit, and you will do as I command you.”


“In doing so, you will share how and why you were given life again."


“You will share with anybody that I put in your path and will entertain any questions about what I shared and taught you from anybody who asks.”

What is the book 44 hours in heaven abou | 44 Hours In Heaven Ministries

With only one known case worldwide, Robert's story provides the world's first living testimony of a man who died and spent 44 hours in Heaven. He was taught by Jesus about Heaven and how to understand the Bible. Robert shares his entire experience in Heaven and with Jesus.

www.44hoursinheavenministries.org

The atmosphere that this interviewer created assisted near death experiencer Robert Marshall to do something of a comedy act.

PROFOUND NDE: BRAIN DEAD for 90 MINUTES; Met JESUS in HEAVEN & RETURNED w/ MESSAGE | Robert Marshall​

 

[DennisPTate]

As a Sheeple Normie , you most certainly would not like it .
Which is precisely why you remain sound asleep .

With the Eternity argument there must come a point where Consciousness begins to stir .
But that is very difficult to imagine .

Which is one main reason why I favour the Lab Rat Experiments narrative

One variation on what I suspect you may mean by the "Lab Rat Experiments Narrative" could be that former Covering Cherub Helel has gotten into very dark and pessimistic psychological research on us humans. Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan feels like he was merely like "Pinnochio" and was not a "Real Boy" so he went into a rage when he found out that YHWh planned to create, actual Children of God through Adam and Eve.

But, on the plus side, the psychological research that is being done on the wealthiest of the wealthy is of some value or it would have been stopped already.

Near death experiencer Robert Marshall was shown that Satan began to fall about seventy million years ago and had fully fallen by sixty five million years ago. He was also told that the earth was three point six BILLION years old. This was some of the most helpful new information that I had heard in a long time to put all the pieces of the puzzle together.

Near death expereincer Bryan Melvin was also told that aliens and demons are doing psychological research on us humans.

Zone1 Thread 'Does Satan work for Jesus?'

Dec 7, 2025

I admit that this question is going to be rather controversial but a pretty powerful case can be presented from The Book of Job as well as from the Christian scriptures that perhaps, Satan is obeying every command that he receives from Jesus, [who apparently has the authority to send people like near death experiencer Robert Marshall back to this earth with a mission that is relevant for all doctors and all nurses and all medical personnel in the USA and Canada and all the world]!

So if Satan is working for Jesus what is his job perhaps rather like?

Well, on one level I believe that...

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[luiza]

One variation on what I suspect you may mean by the "Lab Rat Experiments Narrative" could be that former Covering Cherub Helel has gotten into very dark and pessimistic psychological research on us humans. Stanley Milgram Lucifer Satan feels like he was merely like "Pinnochio" and was not a "Real Boy" so he went into a rage when he found out that YHWh planned to create, actual Children of God through Adam and Eve.

But, on the plus side, the psychological research that is being done on the wealthiest of the wealthy is of some value or it would have been stopped already.

Near death experiencer Robert Marshall was shown that Satan began to fall about seventy million years ago and had fully fallen by sixty five million years ago. He was also told that the earth was three point six BILLION years old. This was some of the most helpful new information that I had heard in a long time to put all the pieces of the puzzle together.

Near death expereincer Bryan Melvin was also told that aliens and demons are doing psychological research on us humans.

Appreciate your endeavours .

But the moment you start to picture Consciousness ( Universe) in personal and limited terms ---- to make it easier to understand ----- you fall into the trap of thinking that Universe is just a larger version of our Matterium .

That type of narrative at its crudest imagines Consciousness morphs into a person or force that is termed God and is somehow separate or extra to the Creation ( Universe ) ;.

A complete heresy , and very poor thinking , imho .

Frankly I regard that as intellectually demanding as simple people believing that objects represent the Divine --- waterfalls , the wind etc .

 

[DennisPTate]

Appreciate your endeavours .

But the moment you start to picture Consciousness ( Universe) in personal and limited terms ---- to make it easier to understand ----- you fall into the trap of thinking that Universe is just a larger version of our Matterium .

That type of narrative at its crudest imagines Consciousness morphs into a person or force that is termed God and is somehow separate or extra to the Creation ( Universe ) ;.

A complete heresy , and very poor thinking , imho .

Frankly I regard that as intellectually demanding as simple people believing that objects represent the Divine --- waterfalls , the wind etc .

But YHWH has invested infinite time in the past and this earth with us humans and animals on it is what has been developed after the application of Infinite Intelligence X Infinite Time.

The afterlife has level after level but we must begin with what we are being shown here in merely four dimensions of space and time.

I do agree with you that the Bigger Picture is beyond what the English language can explain but that glimpse of infinite time in the past is helpful in grasping how important our tiny little lives may actually be.

[Mellen Thomas Benedict]

6. The Void​

At this point of my NDE, I found myself in a profound stillness, beyond all silence. I could see or perceive FOREVER, beyond Infinity. I was in the Void.

I was in pre-creation, before the Big Bang. I had crossed over the beginning of time / the First Word / the First vibration. I was in the Eye of Creation. I felt as if I was touching the Face of God. It was not a religious feeling. Simply, I was at one with Absolute Life and Consciousness. When I say that I could see or perceive forever, I mean that I could experience all of creation generating itself. It was without beginning and without end. That’s a mind-expanding thought, isn’t it? Scientists perceive the Big Bang as a single event that created the Universe. I saw during my life after death experience that the Big Bang is only one of an infinite number of Big Bangs creating Universes endlessly and simultaneously. The only images that even come close in human terms would be those created by super computers using fractal geometry equations.

The ancients knew of this. They said God had periodically created new Universes by breathing out, and recreated other Universes by breathing in. These epochs were called Yugas. Modern science called this the Big Bang. I was in absolute, pure consciousness. I could see or perceive all the Big Bangs or Yugas creating and recreating themselves. Instantly I entered into them all simultaneously. I saw that each and every little piece of creation has the power to create. It is very difficult to try to explain this. I am still speechless about this.

It took me years after I returned from my NDE to assimilate any words at all for the Void experience. I can tell you this now: the Void is less than nothing, yet more than everything that is! The Void is absolute zero; chaos forming all possibilities. It is Absolute Consciousness; much more than even Universal Intelligence. The Void is the vacuum or nothingness between all physical manifestations. The SPACE between atoms and their components. Modern science has begun to study this space between everything. They call it Zero point. Whenever they try to measure it, their instruments go off the scale, or to infinity, so to speak. They have no way, as of yet, to measure infinity accurately. There is more of the zero space in your own body and the Universe than anything else!

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[Carl in Michigan]

A burning bush would make me a believer. Still waiting...

And so, forever you shall wait
An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign

 

[DennisPTate]

And so, forever you shall wait
An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign

That is a good answer Carl.

If somebody will quote Isaiah chapter 45 and stick their right hand up in the air and ask to be led to understand and see their errors so that they do not deceive others in the way that they themselves have been deceived.... I prayed that way just after Yom Kippur 1990. I got amazing results to that prayer.

"Thus saith the Lord to my anointed Cyrus, whose right hand I have taken hold of, to subdue nations before his face, and to turn the backs of kings, and to open the doors before him, and the gates shall not be shut. 2 I will go before thee, and will humble the great ones of the earth: I will break in pieces the gates of brass, and will burst the bars of iron. 3 And I will give thee hidden treasures, and the concealed riches of secret places: that thou mayest know that I am the Lord who call thee by thy name, the God of Israel. 4 For the sake of my servant Jacob, and Israel my elect, I have even called thee by thy name: I have made a likeness of thee, and thou hast not known me. 5 I am the Lord, and there is none else: there is no God, besides me: I girded thee, and thou hast not known me:"

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