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FBI fires agents who scrutinized Patel in Trump documents case​

The FBI has fired at least 10 agents and support staff over allegations that they obtained phone records connected to FBI Director Kash Patel and White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles as part of the investigation into Donald Trump’s mishandling of classified documents, four people briefed on the matter told MS NOW.

An FBI spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the terminations.

In a statement widely circulating online, Patel called it “outrageous and deeply alarming that the previous FBI leadership secretly subpoenaed my own phone records — along with those of now White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles — using flimsy pretexts and burying the entire process in prohibited case files designed to evade all oversight.”

The FBI did not make public any evidence to buttress the claim, though toll records — which list the phone numbers called and the times and durations of those calls, but not their content — are routinely and legally obtained in a criminal investigation.

As part of the Trump classified documents probe, the Justice Department and FBI investigated Patel’s public claim that Trump, while president, had declassified large numbers of records en masse, and that therefore no laws had been broken when the documents were transferred to Mar-a-Lago.


When Patel isn't partying with the men's hockey team in Milan he still has time for a little retribution. So what trope will trump's faithful use to ignore/justify/rationalize/deny this story? Will they falsely claim, like R senators did over Jack Smith's investigation, that obtaining phone call toll records is illegal? Will they employ the tried and true, "MSNOW is fake news." Will they use ,"Patel is the FBI director and can fire anyone he wants." Will it be, "good riddance to those Deep State commies."

There's a reason for that kind of abject absurdity. The excuses happen because the explanation for the firings is so painfully obvious. Revenge for the agents having the audacity to do their jobs. Namely, investigating a crime the regime would rather pretend never happened.
 
Here is the problem.......Snowden still can't come home. Democrats have no soap box to stand on here.
 

FBI fires agents who scrutinized Patel in Trump documents case​

The FBI has fired at least 10 agents and support staff over allegations that they obtained phone records connected to FBI Director Kash Patel and White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles as part of the investigation into Donald Trump’s mishandling of classified documents, four people briefed on the matter told MS NOW.

An FBI spokesperson did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the terminations.

In a statement widely circulating online, Patel called it “outrageous and deeply alarming that the previous FBI leadership secretly subpoenaed my own phone records — along with those of now White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles — using flimsy pretexts and burying the entire process in prohibited case files designed to evade all oversight.”

The FBI did not make public any evidence to buttress the claim, though toll records — which list the phone numbers called and the times and durations of those calls, but not their content — are routinely and legally obtained in a criminal investigation.

As part of the Trump classified documents probe, the Justice Department and FBI investigated Patel’s public claim that Trump, while president, had declassified large numbers of records en masse, and that therefore no laws had been broken when the documents were transferred to Mar-a-Lago.


When Patel isn't partying with the men's hockey team in Milan he still has time for a little retribution. So what trope will trump's faithful use to ignore/justify/rationalize/deny this story? Will they falsely claim, like R senators did over Jack Smith's investigation, that obtaining phone call toll records is illegal? Will they employ the tried and true, "MSNOW is fake news." Will they use ,"Patel is the FBI director and can fire anyone he wants." Will it be, "good riddance to those Deep State commies."

There's a reason for that kind of abject absurdity. The excuses happen because the explanation for the firings is so painfully obvious. Revenge for the agents having the audacity to do their jobs. Namely, investigating a crime the regime would rather pretend never happened.
They're fully on board. They've given up on life, and figure that only a neofascist, authoritarian regime can make them happy.

It won't work.
 
I don't ignore it, I applaud it.

Next?
Here is the problem.......Snowden still can't come home. Democrats have no soap box to stand on here.
As much as I'd like to credit the originality of your replies, one shamelessly cheering on the regime's continued purge of FBI agents involved in examining trump's crimes, the other a somewhat lame whataboutism used for the purposes of deflection, I find myself in a familiar place. That is, being reminded message board posts are good for conveying information but not for creating honest, thoughtful replies.
 
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As much as I'd like to credit the originality of your replies, one shamelessly cheering on the regime's continued purge of FBI agents involved in examining trump's crimes, the other a somewhat lame whataboutism used for the purposes of deflection, I find myself in a familiar place. That is, being reminded message board posts are good for conveying information but not for creating honest, thoughtful replies.

LOL, you take that as cheering on the administrations actions?

OOooommmmmmmmmm.

Democrats get nowhere in their condemnations because they do the same.
 
I'm glad this issue is getting attention. It shows the Democrats used the FBI to spy on their political opposition.

And Democrats want to make it "illegal" to investigate the non profits doing all the stealing, because the FBI wasn't investigating them...


"In the 2026 Regular Session, Virginia House Bill 1369 (HB1369) was introduced, aiming to restrict state agencies from requiring nonprofit organizations to verify eligibility for federal benefits"


We're stealing your money, and we don't want you to be able to investigate that, and when we have the WH we use DOJ/FBI to investigate those who do want to investigate

DEMOCRAT STEALING OF TAXDOLLARS
 
They're fully on board. They've given up on life, and figure that only a neofascist, authoritarian regime can make them happy.

It won't work.
It's not that I don't appreciate the fatigue trumples are experiencing when they reflexively ignore/justify/rationalize/deny everything the regime does. I just think they'd be less fatigued if once in a great while they went in another direction. For example, how about "I don't think trump and Patel are doing a service to the nation, weakening the FBI by firing experienced agents as punishment simply for doing their jobs."
 
LOL, you take that as cheering on the administrations actions?

OOooommmmmmmmmm.

Democrats get nowhere in their condemnations because they do the same.
That was directed at the other poster. Your reply was more of the insipid "they all do it" nature. It's intellectually dishonest, bordering on fatuous.
 
It's not that I don't appreciate the fatigue trumples are experiencing when they reflexively ignore/justify/rationalize/deny everything the regime does. I just think they'd be less fatigued if once in a great while they went in another direction. For example, how about "I don't think trump and Patel are doing a service to the nation, weakening the FBI by firing experienced agents as punishment simply for doing their jobs."
Well, that would require intellectual elasticity, some critical thinking, and enough self esteem to stretch beyond tribal boundaries.

So, yeah, you won't see that much.
 
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If you run a department - public or private sector - and you find that your well-paid professionals are pursuing objectives that are either pointless or antagonistic to the mission of the department...you fire the bastards.

There is a legitimate school of legal thought that President Trump implicitly declassified all of the documents that were shipped to Mar-a-lago simply by the fact of ordering them moved outside government facilities. He was still POTUS when he gave those instructions, and POTUS has that power, excusively. You might not like it, but it is an issue on which Constitutional experts disagree.

And it happens to be the position of the current Justice Department and FBI.
 
It's not that I don't appreciate the fatigue trumples are experiencing when they reflexively ignore/justify/rationalize/deny everything the regime does. I just think they'd be less fatigued if once in a great while they went in another direction. For example, how about "I don't think trump and Patel are doing a service to the nation, weakening the FBI by firing experienced agents as punishment simply for doing their jobs."
TRANSLATION: "The problem is they just can't/won't get their minds right and toe the line, they need to think like me who always presents both sides of the issue, my side and the wrong side."
 
Trump is such a dishonest moron, nothing he and his administration of idiots do should surprise a rational person. Stupid people do stupid things, Trump is stupid and his fans are stupid too. I realize that calling them stupid doesn't actually explain / cover their idiocy but everyone who went to school knows the type.

 
There is a legitimate school of legal thought that President Trump implicitly declassified all of the documents
Sorry, but no. That's quackery. Even if it wasn't, the agents who were fired were doing work they were assigned to do. Their job wasn't to make a judgement as to whether trump sent out thoughts in to the atmosphere that magically declassified docs. Their job was to follow the directives of their superiors. They got fired for doing so. So did dozens of agents assigned to track down members of the J6 mob.
 
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